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Thank you for the kind words. I hope I can eventually return to my 12 mini but I have to admit I’m really enjoying the Xr more than I expected. The display has definitely less harsh backlighting than my previous XR did. The camera is better than I remembered. I think I can settle quite happily on this phone for a long time.
I’m fortunate to still be able to use the latest Android phones, so if I want all the latest zooms and computational photography tricks I still have options for my second AT&T line. From what I’ve seen of the new Pixel 6 Pro photos, though, images do look heavily processed at times. It’s the bane of newer advances in smart photography. I do expect the next step will be to dial that look back a bit.
That’s not a bad idea about blocking the LiDAR and I’ll suggest it to my husband next time we find ourselves in a similar situation.
Exactly the issues that my wife and I experience with 13 Pro.
Hilarious...how this get past any test just blows my mind. Apple spent 20+ billion this year on research and development...and 100 bucks on QA.
It’s funny you say this as I agree to a certain point. But these relative unknown YouTubers had mentioned it right towards the end of the video.
There is something really wrong with 13 Pro and Pro Max camera... took a picture of my daughter few days ago that looked like a photo i tool from a potato phone from 1990, meanwhile my friends 11 pro max, and regular 13 looked perfectly...hard to believe that Apple messed the camera that bad
At first blush, not bad. If you zoom in at the lower-right side of the door where the shadow is cast, it looks really strange going up from the bottom of the door to approximately 1/3 of the way up the door. It looks like the darker brown on the door where the shadow is, was 'painted' on. A very unnatural look. zoomed out looks fine, zoomed in, looks really strange. It's gotta be some of apples over-processing.
Also I realised that the “preview” picture that shows is low resolution. This might be part of the problem.
I’ll explain myself.
I have set lightroom for not to make new previews of the pictures and only show the embebed previews in the file. For Sony raws, this is a 2mpx jpg embebed in the raw, but for Canon is a full resolution pic. In the case of my 13 pro max, what lightroom opens in the library module is clearly way below 12mpx. Why? Because if then I go to the develop module, you can clearly see how the picture loads with much more detail.
So that might be part of the issue, that apple is not loading in the gallery the real resolution picture but only a lower resolution thumbnail.
I agree that the pictures, especially the ones from the 3x camera are a complete joke. Also this camera is super slow to focus, and when on a mirror it tends to focus the glass instead of the reflection 🥺
Proraw has all the processing built in so it’s not a solution.
I have had my X for years and all the phones that came after, i just didn’t like them: too much hdr, too much noise reduction, the pictures don’t look natural. Finally I upgraded for other reasons but honestly I prefer the cameras in my X.
I’ll explain myself.
I have set lightroom for not to make new previews of the pictures and only show the embebed previews in the file. For Sony raws, this is a 2mpx jpg embebed in the raw, but for Canon is a full resolution pic. In the case of my 13 pro max, what lightroom opens in the library module is clearly way below 12mpx. Why? Because if then I go to the develop module, you can clearly see how the picture loads with much more detail.
So that might be part of the issue, that apple is not loading in the gallery the real resolution picture but only a lower resolution thumbnail.
I agree that the pictures, especially the ones from the 3x camera are a complete joke. Also this camera is super slow to focus, and when on a mirror it tends to focus the glass instead of the reflection 🥺
Proraw has all the processing built in so it’s not a solution.
I have had my X for years and all the phones that came after, i just didn’t like them: too much hdr, too much noise reduction, the pictures don’t look natural. Finally I upgraded for other reasons but honestly I prefer the cameras in my X.
100% user error - you're generating a 6 megapixel image by zooming in like that. Just use the camera as a 13mm/26mm/77mm. No in between, it's not a zoom lens, it's three separate cameras.
I personally dislike how Apple allows the in-between zoom levels - it's a recipe for a bad photo, at least until we start seeing bigger megapixels crammed into sensors of this size without losing performance in other aspects. 12MP simply isn't enough to crop into. If you walked a little closer shot the same frame with the standard 26mm 1x it'd probably look nice and crisp.
For some reason I thought for example if the optical zoom was 3X , I could go in between 1 and 3 x zoom optically. Lol
I say this in every page but I see that some people still are wondering why.
The problem is very simple. This year the combination of bigger sensor + very large aperture means that photos will be very "soft". It's not apple fault, it's just physics. Like I said, when samsung tried a f/1.5 lens on a large sensor they used a variable aperture to let the users close to f/2.4 during the day.
What is apple fault is that they did that and used as a "solution" a simple sharpness filter. That is beyond any reasonable decision on a 1500 dollars smartphone. And it's even absurd that a billion dollar company can think to beat physics with a filter.
And this is the result. There is no mystery, it's really that simple.
The problem is very simple. This year the combination of bigger sensor + very large aperture means that photos will be very "soft". It's not apple fault, it's just physics. Like I said, when samsung tried a f/1.5 lens on a large sensor they used a variable aperture to let the users close to f/2.4 during the day.
What is apple fault is that they did that and used as a "solution" a simple sharpness filter. That is beyond any reasonable decision on a 1500 dollars smartphone. And it's even absurd that a billion dollar company can think to beat physics with a filter.
And this is the result. There is no mystery, it's really that simple.
Mostly Apple's fault for marketing it that way IMO. Same goes for going to 3x in anything but ideal lighting - most of the time it's not even going to let you use the real telephoto camera but instead will crop a staggering 3x into the 12mp wide camera. During the day if you go outside and hit 3X you'll see the live preview go from a bit blurry to crystal clear as the phone decides to allow the 3x camera to be used. Always wait for that switchover when you want to shoot zoomed, or use Halide which will never lie to you about which lens you've got active.
Every single one of Apple's promo photos and videos are shot at exactly 0.5, 1x, or 3x.
I actually NEVER zoom in. I just take the picture. Crop later if needed. Everyone who zooms beyond what they camera settings are probably looking for trouble. At least that was the advice for years with digital zooms.
I've been mostly using Halide for taking photos now on my 13pro max, I've had halide for a few years, but using it more than ever now.
I am disappointed with the current native app and how Apple have released it, I guess they will eventually fix it, but it makes me hesitate "upgrading" in the future. I hesitated on upgrading from my 12pro max.
I am disappointed with the current native app and how Apple have released it, I guess they will eventually fix it, but it makes me hesitate "upgrading" in the future. I hesitated on upgrading from my 12pro max.
I haven't posted in a long while but I just came here to say that my new 13 pro max camera is the worst camera on an iPhone I have ever used and I started with the OG. I'm seriously thinking of returning this heap of garbage and switching to something else. What's up with the OnePlus 9 Pro with the Hasselblad camera?
I had ordered a 13 Pro but having read most of the comments on this thread - and a couple of other websites - I am now thinking of getting a refurbished iPhone 11 Pro instead. ‘Why not a 12/12Pro?’ I hear you ask! A friend of mine has the 12 Pro and regrets getting it and hasn't been impressed. I am wondering whether anyone else reading this thread previously had (or still has) an iPhone 11 Pro and what your thoughts are? I currently have an SE 2 which I plan to give to my wife once I have made up my mind on which phone to get.