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babyexercise

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Iphone AI is just to make most average people feel the photos look good, applying so much AI then of course the photo would be less clear if you zoom in.
 

AlGardner

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Iphone AI is just to make most average people feel the photos look good, applying so much AI then of course the photo would be less clear if you zoom in.
I want to be happy!))

But pics from promos and reviews sometimes drastically differs from my phone’s
Even with sun, there are noise on the photos in 3x lens

Maybe I have too high expectations from it, thanks to advertising campaign.
But I don’t want to process raw pics and spend a lot of time
For this I have Canon mkII with optics
 

AlGardner

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Am I right that only primary camera has 1.9 pixel and big matrix, and other are with weaker characteristics, because of the ISO levels are different for them
 

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15.2 is one step better in camera results. Sample is 3x telephoto , no edits!
 

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AlGardner

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Installed 15.2. Seems to be better in some scenes. But what is still bad - blurry faces, if I’ll take pictures in the same room as this - result will be poor. Skin and hairs are blurry and looks plastic

What third party app better to use?
Are there options to save photos exported from raw to the camera roll, preserving metadata?
 

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AlGardner

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Installed Lightroom. And wow: it allows for free shoot in HDR DNG files (raw) and edit it with saving to camera roll.
So here are test. Each couple of photos - first is Apple camera app, second is Lightroom. Lightroom editing slightly noise reduction and whites/shadows
 

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Wizec

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Installed Lightroom. And wow: it allows for free shoot in HDR DNG files (raw) and edit it with saving to camera roll.
So here are test. Each couple of photos - first is Apple camera app, second is Lightroom. Lightroom editing slightly noise reduction and whites/shadows
Have you checked out Photographic Styles in the stock camera app?

 

RUQRU

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Is this in all types of lights with your device?
I'm not sure 15.2 made any difference on my device.
In very dark light it will switch to the wide lens. I have done some casual testing indoors. In dim rooms it stays on the 77mm lens, but in the dark space under my desk it switches to the wide lens.
 

AlGardner

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Have you checked out Photographic Styles in the stock camera app?

Unfortunately… There are nothing to do with oversharp/USM and noise removal, but yes.
I turned it on to get more warm pics and less saturated, like someone mentioned before.
Do you suggest it may help in some ways?
As far as I read, is better turn it off
 
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ToddH

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And what about blurry faces and lack of details? How this app copes with that?
It’s just an editing app for your photos. If you took a photo of a person and it got blurred & lacks detail, that’s the photographers fault not the app. You only want to edit your best photos, not the blurred ones LOL.
 
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AlGardner

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It’s just an editing app for your photos. If you took a photo of a person and it got blurred & lacks detail, that’s the photographers fault not the app. You only want to edit your best photos, not the blurred ones LOL.
This tread (as I see it) is about bad iPhone camera and seeking how to fix it.
Not about fancy apps to process good pictures.

And regarding camera… My Lightroom experiments and googling after gave me bad feeling that autofocus is not good and occasionally (50%??) doing job wrong, causing blurry pictures. After that AI and “smart” HDR adding other ugly processing, making photos look plastic-fantastic

Installed 15.3 public beta. Nothing better(
 

tedley

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This tread (as I see it) is about bad iPhone camera and seeking how to fix it.
Not about fancy apps to process good pictures.

And regarding camera… My Lightroom experiments and googling after gave me bad feeling that autofocus is not good and occasionally (50%??) doing job wrong, causing blurry pictures. After that AI and “smart” HDR adding other ugly processing, making photos look plastic-fantastic

Installed 15.3 public beta. Nothing better(
15.3 is just minor bug fixes, nothing of major significance. I’m hoping to hear of some camera app updates in 15.4.

It’s just a cellphone camera but should be able to produce better images than some of the absolute rubbish I’ve seen in this thread. I don’t expect it to compete with a DSLR but do expect better than I’ve seen so far.
 

babyexercise

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15.3 is just minor bug fixes, nothing of major significance. I’m hoping to hear of some camera app updates in 15.4.

It’s just a cellphone camera but should be able to produce better images than some of the absolute rubbish I’ve seen in this thread. I don’t expect it to compete with a DSLR but do expect better than I’ve seen so far.

Other phone brands are worse
 

ToddH

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This tread (as I see it) is about bad iPhone camera and seeking how to fix it.
Not about fancy apps to process good pictures.

And regarding camera… My Lightroom experiments and googling after gave me bad feeling that autofocus is not good and occasionally (50%??) doing job wrong, causing blurry pictures. After that AI and “smart” HDR adding other ugly processing, making photos look plastic-fantastic

Installed 15.3 public beta. Nothing better(
Well the title needs to be changed to “Really bad iPhone (jpeg) photos” since that’s what’s apparently discussed. I shoot raw so I don’t see those issues. No plastic look with mine.
 

kp98077

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I honestly find the 13 max photos much better looking, I get they are the "same" camera but for me I do see a difference, am I the only one?
 

Kutfe

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The main problem with the iPhone camera is that it "does not share" the lenses. This is for easy use by most people. If you want cool shots, use third-party lens separation applications. However, there are several nuances. Third-party applications do not shoot well in night mode, only Halide has macro mode. Keep calm, shoot in raw! :)
 
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AlGardner

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15.3 is just minor bug fixes, nothing of major significance. I’m hoping to hear of some camera app updates in 15.4.

It’s just a cellphone camera but should be able to produce better images than some of the absolute rubbish I’ve seen in this thread. I don’t expect it to compete with a DSLR but do expect better than I’ve seen so far.
Me too. Exactly.
I just noticed it was blurry.
It was worse than my XR photos. Just put it side by side and shoot several images. XR pictures are bright and sharp…(

Wait for 15.4… Till spring?(
I’m seriously thinking to ditch it over the eBay-like site, with 300-400$ loss, and buy 11 or 12 version. I bought it to take pictures of my baby-girl. I wanted best. Not crap.
But first want to visit service center. May be they’ll take it back and return money

Well the title needs to be changed to “Really bad iPhone (jpeg) photos” since that’s what’s apparently discussed. I shoot raw so I don’t see those issues. No plastic look with mine.
yes. Plastic is from the post processing. But Raw shooting is not resolving auto focus problems, and Raw photos are same blurry as from iPhone camera app, I posted some side-by-side pictures from raw and camera app some messages before.

The main problem with the iPhone camera is that it "does not share" the lenses. This is for easy use by most people. If you want cool shots, use third-party lens separation applications. However, there are several nuances. Third-party applications do not shoot well in night mode, only Halide has macro mode. Keep calm, shoot in raw! :)
If that could be the solution-I’ll be happy. But read my previous reply(
Shoot in raw, apply sharpening, and still worse than from my old XR. Some times they were alike, but that times I was trying to repeatedly touch screen to force lock focus point.
Of course (what!?) XR was perfectly shooting without it.
Read on the apple discussions it is LiDAR autofocus fault. And who knows is it software (fixable) or hardware problem

And since not everyone complaining about it… If they are not blind, than, seems to be, it is rather hardware than software issue…
 
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trsdvg

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Me too. Exactly.
I just noticed it was blurry.
It was worse than my XR photos. Just put it side by side and shoot several images. XR pictures are bright and sharp…(

Wait for 15.4… Till spring?(
I’m seriously thinking to ditch it over the eBay-like site, with 300-400$ loss, and buy 11 or 12 version. I bought it to take pictures of my baby-girl. I wanted best. Not crap.
But first want to visit service center. May be they’ll take it back and return money

yes. Plastic is from the post processing. But Raw shooting is not resolving auto focus problems, and Raw photos are same blurry as from iPhone camera app, I posted some side-by-side pictures from raw and camera app some messages before.

If that could be the solution-I’ll be happy. But read my previous reply(
Shoot in raw, apply sharpening, and still worse than from my old XR. Some times they were alike, but that times I was trying to repeatedly touch screen to force lock focus point.
Of course (what!?) XR was perfectly shooting without it.
Read on the apple discussions it is LiDAR autofocus fault. And who knows is it software (fixable) or hardware problem

And since not everyone complaining about it… If they are not blind, than, seems to be, it is rather hardware than software issue…
The same… ? I noticed xr more sharper in widest zone (under focus point and further) because f1,8. iPhone 13 f1,6 and in this parameter it portrait better but less universal. And yes focus trouble super often found. (it’s new technology I think they fix this, I hope)
 
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Pandyone

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Well the title needs to be changed to “Really bad iPhone (jpeg) photos” since that’s what’s apparently discussed. I shoot raw so I don’t see those issues. No plastic look with mine.

There are examples with the issues in raw too in this thread.
just because you do not experience the problems with your device, they can exist on others and cause bad results.
I’m not sure why you’re that defensive regarding the issues being reported. But they are still there :)
 
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