No, as multiple posters here have pointed out, you can use a third party camera app while you wait for an update from Apple. I've tried two and they both have produced great pictures from my 13 Pro.
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Unedited, directly from the iPhone 13 Pro just got this weekend. Looks pretty good to me. I still have to do a LOT more testing, but so far so good. I’m still of the mind there’s some bad hardware out there, and I’m a lucky one… hopefully. ?
I was going to say, now bad can a picture of cheese be? Now I'm hungry...
Just because: The wife hates the pictures from the 13, and wishes she could have her 12 back. Sometimes I really just have to stand there and be quiet...
Which applications? Thanks
ProCamera and then Halide. I'm mostly learning Halide now. I like it well enough so far but it doesn't have a long exposure option, I still use the iOS Camera app for that.
This is bothering me a lot for a 1K phone that I saved up some time for. It sucks that I had my family ask why their face looks somewhat diseased on my phone...
People's attempts to bring this up on Apple Support Communities have been slammed by insults telling us unhappy customers to "grow up over obnoxious selfies" and that "millions of other's have not complained and only praised the phone" yadda yadda...
Apple store have refused to acknowledged people's complaints too, which are growing in number as more people are buying the iphone 13. Hopefully the "positive reviews" will be buried by customers pointing out the flaw in this software correction.
I've tried to bypass it with third party apps, sometimes the software correction still somehow overides it for reasons I don't know (granted I am a newbie to Halide).
I don't have a problem in very light environments, but taking a picture in medium to low level lights indoors looks noisy, sharp, sometimes colour washed, or a weird incoherent mixture of the three. I've tried multiple permutations of settings, took in different modes, used RAW etc... I still see a lovely picture get ruined in 0.5s as soon as I open that photo in gallery. Why can't they just let people do their own editing?
The only solution which I think worked a little was to take burst shots and I think not all of them had the correction applied - maybe someone here could confirm?
I am carrying two phones now just to not have precious picture moments ruined by this AI. I think I will be selling my phone off if there's no update, which sucks because I got it in September and it's lost value already in the months thinking they would roll out an update sooner. I really don't want them to fix it just on the IPhone 14, I would be furious.
People's attempts to bring this up on Apple Support Communities have been slammed by insults telling us unhappy customers to "grow up over obnoxious selfies" and that "millions of other's have not complained and only praised the phone" yadda yadda...
Apple store have refused to acknowledged people's complaints too, which are growing in number as more people are buying the iphone 13. Hopefully the "positive reviews" will be buried by customers pointing out the flaw in this software correction.
I've tried to bypass it with third party apps, sometimes the software correction still somehow overides it for reasons I don't know (granted I am a newbie to Halide).
I don't have a problem in very light environments, but taking a picture in medium to low level lights indoors looks noisy, sharp, sometimes colour washed, or a weird incoherent mixture of the three. I've tried multiple permutations of settings, took in different modes, used RAW etc... I still see a lovely picture get ruined in 0.5s as soon as I open that photo in gallery. Why can't they just let people do their own editing?
The only solution which I think worked a little was to take burst shots and I think not all of them had the correction applied - maybe someone here could confirm?
I am carrying two phones now just to not have precious picture moments ruined by this AI. I think I will be selling my phone off if there's no update, which sucks because I got it in September and it's lost value already in the months thinking they would roll out an update sooner. I really don't want them to fix it just on the IPhone 14, I would be furious.
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Same issue.. I am really disappointed but really a lot
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I’ve read here you must shoot Raw in halide and then manually process it. Automatically shoot in JPEG leads to bad results.
As for me I tried Raw, in poor lighting conditions it is too noisy and you need to spend much of time trying to fix it with unpredictable results
And only main wide camera has relatively good sensor, because ultra wide and Tele produces horrible pics in poor lighting, which I even not tried to edit and put directly in garbage (
So after some experiments I left Raw and going with stock apps, it ruins approx 20% of pictures, trying to compensate with quantity, but sometimes it is not possible to change the lights.
Hairs and fabric structure and other small patterns are the pain. Noise removal processing just making it smooth without any texture.
Almost on half of pictures I need to reduce saturation approximately -10 points, it fixes red and yellow faces )
And yes. Even here are people who tries to tel that it is not a bug. Just do raw, spend your time on editing and be happy you are having newest iPhone.
And for my 13pm 512, I’ve paid 1.9k $, so it’s a huge disappointment
Unedited, directly from the iPhone 13 Pro just got this weekend. Looks pretty good to me. I still have to do a LOT more testing, but so far so good. I’m still of the mind there’s some bad hardware out there, and I’m a lucky one… hopefully.View attachment 1938853
Looks absolutely delicious!!
I fully understand your frustration.
Knowing how you feel, my honest advice to you is to sell now and recoup as much as you can as there is zero chance this will be fixed. Don't wait with hopes of Apple making it right, they won't, they don't care. This issue is added to a long list of other issues on the 12 and 13 series (uneven displays, yellow tint, red tint, etc etc.) that are just ignored by Apple as they honestly have no reason to correct; they have too many people praising their products and tech sites / reviewers (including MacRumors) do not dare give publicity to these ongoing quality control issues.
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can you try to describe what you are trying to show with your images? the first image looks soft, but that might be because it is a cropped screen shot. the other image looks good to me other than the white balancing looks too aggressive/unappealing.
Well, I didn't get any feedback on this, but it looks like there is little point of upgrading to the 13 Pro for an "improved" camera. There are too many unhappy folks here to bother migrating to a new phone, then possibly have to migrate everything back if the camera is lacking.
You shouldn’t expect year-over -year changes in the iphone camera. Apple has shown us time and time again that iPhones are modest upgrades in that time period. You’ll only really see improvements when you look on a longer time horizon (think 2-3 years). Sure some members here are going to tell you that their XS and 11 photos look good if not better than the 13-series, but most of the time they’re really just complaining about apple’s post-processing and not the hardware itself. Coming from a XS myself, the sharpness is more or less the same, but the only tangible difference i see in the camera is better contrast and dynamic range. The cost of this is detail and sharpness (with the latter two still being an issue on the XS).
At the end of the day, sure its an expensive phone, but you can only do so much with a tiny sensor before computational photography has carry a heavier load. And post-processing like all edits, are subjective. If you‘re upgrading year-over-year for camera features alone, you're better off getting a point and shoot camera with a bigger sensor like the Sony RX100.
Thanks for the reply.
I do have a great full size camera already. I would also like the best iphone camera i can get for times i am not lugging the big kit around. The cost to upgrade every year isnt too much more than bi-yearly upgrades, so i do it when there are new features available that i want.
So, i am trying to decide if there is a decent improvement between the 12 pro and 13 pro Cameras. Based on this thread, it looks like the 13 pro isn't clearly better.
Not funny((
That sucks feel yourself fooled.
And I don’t like prospects to loose appropriately 300$ on reselling.
But at the end - it’s my fault. Not reading sources except praising reviews… Apple, you’ve got me. But for the last time!
Got an XR clone in the new body.
But I think I’m an old school guy, and just not happy with this new computational photography trend.
It is not. And be aware of this new “improvements”:
Watch the street photo, at the woman’s upper body. Many bright dots.
And it also awful when you have lights from your side.
Watch the photo, taken inside. Window is almost 90 degrees from the point of shooting. Lens is clean. It is not a fog, it is how indirect sun in the window affects iPhone 13pm pictures.
As for me: I’ll try to find and buy refurbished 11pro 512.
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If I was upgrading for the camera alone, I’d honestly have stuck with my XS. Everything else about the 13P is what made me upgrade (battery life, squared design, pro-motion, much improved processor and additional RAM). I thought having night-mode would be this awesome feature to have but In reality, its just a smudgy, overprocessed mess (though i have to admit i do prefer more noise and detail). The iphone does however do a good job of being useful in a pinch.
You fell for the Apple marketing and groundless fanboy euphoria. I fell for it, too, with the M1 Macs and the iPhone 13 Pro.
Apple makes nice-looking devices. That's about it. They pretty much fail at everything else.
A question on photo resolution.
Why are photos from the Ultra Wide and front camera sent to iCloud at 2048x1536 (3MP) but photos taken on the wide and telephoto sent at 4032x3024 (12MP)?
In the photos setting menu I have the 'Download and keep originals' selected.
Any ideas how I get all photos sent to iCloud at full 12MP?
Thanks
Why are photos from the Ultra Wide and front camera sent to iCloud at 2048x1536 (3MP) but photos taken on the wide and telephoto sent at 4032x3024 (12MP)?
In the photos setting menu I have the 'Download and keep originals' selected.
Any ideas how I get all photos sent to iCloud at full 12MP?
Thanks
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you’re right sadly, they hardly ever improve photo quality with software updates (the only exception iPhone XS where they removed the “beauty” effect after a lot of youtubers called them out) but what they could do is bring back the option to turn off the hdr on the 13 models, I still don’t get why it was removed, their post-processing is far from perfect to be baked in..
i just took this photo today and it looks like an oversharpened mess
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A question. Would you think if the option to remove HDR was present some improvements would be noticed depending on scene type?