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daneoni

macrumors G4
Mar 24, 2006
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What?

Increasing the screen size from 3.49" to 3.99" and added extra vertical resolution on the 3.99" means you loss real estate?

I'm pretty sure if the screen size is bigger and the it has a higher resolution, it means it has more real estate.

Not when it comes to Apple. Somehow they've "hand-dicapped" the iPhone...even if the screen size, aspect ratio and number of pixels increased. Thats all irrelevant...still hand-dicapped.
 

hyteckit

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Jul 29, 2007
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Not when it comes to Apple. Somehow they've "hand-dicapped" the iPhone...even if the screen size, aspect ratio and number of pixels increased. Thats all irrelevant...still hand-dicapped.

How so?

Are you saying the extra screen size and extra resolution doesn't add anything?
 

Tinmania

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Aug 8, 2011
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What?

Increasing the screen size from 3.49" to 3.99" and added extra vertical resolution on the 3.99" means you loss real estate?

I'm pretty sure if the screen size is bigger and the it has a higher resolution, it means it has more real estate.
What he wrote went by you, or just deliberately obtuse? :rolleyes:

Pretty clear to me that he meant it loses real estate compared to an increase in size in both dimensions.



Michael
 

skratch77

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Mar 20, 2013
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How so?

Are you saying the extra screen size and extra resolution doesn't add anything?

well for one they didn't use a HD standard like 720P like everyone else so we have to encode movies to a custom resolution
 

mathi-vadhanan

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Sep 14, 2011
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The low light shots does question the creditibility of the reivew. All the SGS4 shots have been exposed for the foreground (look how the sky is blown out) whereas the ONE,s shots have been exposed for the sky. The daytime shots look good on both, nothing to choose between the two. People should stop pixel peeping at 100% crops, theres more to making better photos.
 

hyteckit

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well for one they didn't use a HD standard like 720P like everyone else so we have to encode movies to a custom resolution

Why would you need to encode movies to a custom resolution?

I encode my HD movies in 720p. 720p videos play fine on the iPhone.

You also get a bigger image on the 4" iPhone than 3.5" iPhone. Imaging that. :rolleyes:
 

skratch77

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Why would you need to encode movies to a custom resolution?

I encode my HD movies in 720p. 720p videos play fine on the iPhone.

You also get a bigger image on the 4" iPhone than 3.5" iPhone. Imaging that. :rolleyes:

how do you play 1280x720 resolution on a screen that is 1136x640 :apple:
 

hyteckit

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What he wrote went by you, or just deliberately obtuse? :rolleyes:

Pretty clear to me that he meant it loses real estate compared to an increase in size in both dimensions.

Michael

Pretty clear to me you don't know what you are talking about.

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how do you play 1280x720 resolution on a screen that is 1136x640 :apple:

You tap the video and press play. The video processor handles the scaling and resampling. It's like magic.
 

daneoni

macrumors G4
Mar 24, 2006
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How so?

Are you saying the extra screen size and extra resolution doesn't add anything?

I was being sarcastic. Its a significant addition. The fact that its not "True HD" is only something for Fandroids to moan about. Because it practical use the difference is pretty much negligible.
 
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mib1800

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Sep 16, 2012
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I love how a 0.2" difference qualifies as "significant" while the iPhone 5 is bashed for an increase of 0.5" as unusable and pointless....

I understand if you think 4" is still too small - but come on....its 0.2" between the One and GS4...not significant.

it is 0.3 inch. :p

Look at the picture. You see the screen is quite bigger. That's about 14% more viewing area on S4 compared to One. Taking into a/c that One has the "menu" strip at the bottom when running app, you are looking at something like >20%.

Compare the S4 to Iphone5, S4 has a 57% larger screen.
 

skratch77

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Are you being serious with this?

yeah I am,the iphone 5 is not a true HD 16:9 display it does not play full 720p video without down scaling it before or on the fly.

its not rocket science lol

do you really believe you are actually getting the whole video and not a cropped version of it?please don't tell me you think it also plays 1080p too
 

skratch77

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Just read on a forum about a review done on the octo version of the gs4,bascially 10% performance boost over the snap 600 and it got 2 hours longer video run time from using the new a7 cores.

pretty pissed we are not getting the exynos version with lte support

even it being clocked 500-600 MHz slower than the new A15 cores are not even breaking a sweat beating the older krait cores.

Can you imagine if they were clocked the same?
 

roxxette

macrumors 68000
Aug 9, 2011
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Just read on a forum about a review done on the octo version of the gs4,bascially 10% performance boost over the snap 600 and it got 2 hours longer video run time from using the new a7 cores.

pretty pissed we are not getting the exynos version with lte support

even it being clocked 500-600 MHz slower than the new A15 cores are not even breaking a sweat beating the older krait cores.

Can you imagine if they were clocked the same?

Ebay mate
 

Assault

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Mar 19, 2013
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What?

Increasing the screen size from 3.49" to 3.99" and added extra vertical resolution on the 3.99" means you loss real estate?

I'm pretty sure if the screen size is bigger and the it has a higher resolution, it means it has more real estate.

There was no additional horizontal width added to the vertical increase, hence a loss of real estate that should have been there had they increased the phone linearly, instead of just stretching it.
 

mib1800

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Sep 16, 2012
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There was no additional horizontal width added to the vertical increase, hence a loss of real estate that should have been there had they increased the phone linearly, instead of just stretching it.

a 16:9 ratio will give a lesser screen area compared to 4:3 of previous iphone having the same diagonal
 

MRU

macrumors Penryn
Aug 23, 2005
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Just read on a forum about a review done on the octo version of the gs4,bascially 10% performance boost over the snap 600 and it got 2 hours longer video run time from using the new a7 cores.
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Review source ? Not the forum but the review.



Edit... Found this

http://www.sammobile.com/2013/03/27/samsung-galaxy-s4-user-interface-walkthrough/

Benchmarks are great but there is a discrepancy.

Benc2.png


Antutu reports 1800mhz x 4 when official GS4 Exynos 5 specs say 1.6ghz ? So something is a little funky.

http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_iv-5125.php
CPU Quad-core 1.6 GHz Cortex-A15 & quad-core 1.2 GHz Cortex-A7

Either way it's still mighty powerful.
 
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Markyboy81

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Oct 30, 2011
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yeah I am,the iphone 5 is not a true HD 16:9 display it does not play full 720p video without down scaling it before or on the fly.

its not rocket science lol

do you really believe you are actually getting the whole video and not a cropped version of it?please don't tell me you think it also plays 1080p too

This is true, the video would have to be cropped /or have black borders. But because the iPhone 5 resolution is very close to 720p you probably won't notice, unless you're watching it side by side with a 720p screen
 

TheMTtakeover

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Aug 3, 2011
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yeah I am,the iphone 5 is not a true HD 16:9 display it does not play full 720p video without down scaling it before or on the fly.

its not rocket science lol

do you really believe you are actually getting the whole video and not a cropped version of it?please don't tell me you think it also plays 1080p too

I understand its not playing in 1080. But yo made it sound as if the responsibility of the conversion fell upon the user which is false. The phone can handle this just fine.
 

TheHateMachine

macrumors 6502a
Sep 18, 2012
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Sorry but look at the battery test and tell me how this makes any sense

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So the HTC one matches the GS4 closely in two out of three tests and beats it quite significantly in the third test.



And yet they rank the SGS4 massively higher ?? Not just a small bit but massively. How does that make any sense to anyone ?? Please can someone decipher the logic there ?


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Also screen test - the HTC One has a brightness rating of 647 cd/m2. The GS4 has a brightness rating of 404 cd/m2 and yet they claimed in bright sunlight the GS4 screen was brighter ?

They might assign different weights to each of the three catergories.

Also as for the sunlight thing, the review stated that the S4 screen was less reflective making it easier to use in sunlight.

"However, the Galaxy S4 screen is just less reflective, giving it better sunlight legibility even if the maximum brightness is lower."
 

Tinmania

macrumors 68040
Aug 8, 2011
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Pretty clear to me you don't know what you are talking about.
Cute. Ignore the other dimension. Head in the sand much?

I suppose a 5" iPhone 6, still the same old width, will be perfect too. Unless it is wider as well. Then of course THAT will be perfect lol.



Mike
 
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skratch77

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sammobile claims that have the latest and final version of the gs4 with the octo core and the new firmware has the octo clocked at 1.8ghz!!!! looks like Samsung wants to pound on the htc one in every performance segment

I understand why Samsung went with the s4 and exynos though as they had no choice since the s4 soc has built in 4g for the usa market,it just suck knowing there is a better gs4 out but with only 3g modem
 

MRU

macrumors Penryn
Aug 23, 2005
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sammobile claims that have the latest and final version of the gs4 with the octo core and the new firmware has the octo clocked at 1.8ghz!!!!

I posted that above ^ ;)



If HTC / Expansys don't ship my one by Tuesday I'm going to cancel my order and wait for the exynos version of the G4 even if it's looking like it will be €100 more than the one.
 
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