Really good review of the HTC One vs the GS4 AMOLED beats super LCD 3!

[sentinelsx]

I think for most of the users, both HTC One and GS4 will be great phones. HTC One has the looks, sense (can be good or bad), good low light performance, good CPU performance etc. GS4 has its features, storage expansion, a slightly bigger battery, good camera etc.

In the end for some of us these minor things can force us to get either of the two, but it is so exciting to see that competition has brewed some really good devices. I know it is still hard for me to decide between the three: Xperia Z, HTC One, and GS4. All three are going to be great for over 90% of the stuff. Now just to see which of these do i choose based on the rest of the minor stuff.

 

[Bahroo]

yeah I am,the iphone 5 is not a true HD 16:9 display it does not play full 720p video without down scaling it before or on the fly.

its not rocket science lol

do you really believe you are actually getting the whole video and not a cropped version of it?please don't tell me you think it also plays 1080p too

But it still looks just as good as 720p displays playing 720p because of the really high PPI on the iphone

 

[skratch77]

I posted that above ^



If HTC / Expansys don't ship my one by Tuesday I'm going to cancel my order and wait for the exynos version of the G4 even if it's looking like it will be €100 more than the one.

I would of canceled by now lol

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But it still looks just as good as 720p displays playing 720p because of the really high PPI on the iphone

yh yeah but what about the parts that get cropped out!!!

 

[Bahroo]

I would of canceled by now lol

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yh yeah but what about the parts that get cropped out!!!

What gets cropped out? The screen is 16:9

 

[skratch77]

What gets cropped out? The screen is 16:9

I think you have aspect ratio and resolutions all mixed up,if a pure hd source is 1280x720p in 16:9 ratio and the iphone screen is not 1280x720p it will cut the video up and scale it to its resolutions while staying a 16:9 aspect ratio.You will basically lose a little video doing this but its still being cropped and scaled down

 

[nickchallis92]

But it still looks just as good as 720p displays playing 720p because of the really high PPI on the iphone

If the iPhone has a 'really high PPI', what does that make the PPI on all high-end android handsets?

 

[Tinmania]

But it still looks just as good as 720p displays playing 720p because of the really high PPI on the iphone

No one who has seen a movie playing on my Note 2 ever came to that conclusion. That includes iPhone 5 owners.




Michael

 

[Markyboy81]

I think you have aspect ratio and resolutions all mixed up,if a pure hd source is 1280x720p in 16:9 ratio and the iphone screen is not 1280x720p it will cut the video up and scale it to its resolutions while staying a 16:9 aspect ratio.You will basically lose a little video doing this but its still being cropped and scaled down

Someone needs to draw two rectangles to demonstrate the point - unfortunately I don't have the ability!

 

[jrswizzle]

Cute. Ignore the other dimension. Head in the sand much?

I suppose a 5" iPhone 6, still the same old width, will be perfect too. Unless it is wider as well. Then of course THAT will be perfect lol.



Mike

Of course it will be wider - if you keep a 16:9 aspect ratio, increasing the diagonal would obviously make the phone both wider and taller.....

People who spew this "iPhone 5 is too long" nonsense are either idiots and don't get how aspect ratios and resolutions work, or they simply want a reason to complain and bash the iPhone (I believe you would fall into the second category).

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I think you have aspect ratio and resolutions all mixed up,if a pure hd source is 1280x720p in 16:9 ratio and the iphone screen is not 1280x720p it will cut the video up and scale it to its resolutions while staying a 16:9 aspect ratio.You will basically lose a little video doing this but its still being cropped and scaled down

For me, the issue isn't that people say the iPhone can't play 720p videos - its the idea that a video MUST be at least 720p to be considered HD....

This is an outdated way to measure a very subjective term like "HD" and this was first measured and "standardized" on screens much bigger than the iPhone (or even the Note or iPad) with much lower PPI.

So saying the iPhone can't play 720p videos - of course. Saying the videos the iPhone display aren't "HD" or high-quality (as high quality as what you would see sitting 10 yards from your TV set) is absurd.

Yet another way those who want to bash the iPhone twist outdated standards to win some spec sheet war.

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If the iPhone has a 'really high PPI', what does that make the PPI on all high-end android handsets?

Higher than necessary....

I plan on purchasing one of these 1080p phones this year to test this theory out. But given I can't see pixels on my iPhone 5, I'd guess any increase in display quality could be attributable to other factors (despite what many think, ppi isn't EVERYTHING)

 

[Tinmania]

Of course it will be wider - if you keep a 16:9 aspect ratio, increasing the diagonal would obviously make the phone both wider and taller.....

People who spew this "iPhone 5 is too thin" nonsense are either idiots and don't get how aspect ratios and resolutions work, or they simply want a reason to complain and bash the iPhone (I believe you would fall into the second category).

No. I think the iPhone is too long; not too thin. If the iPhone 5 had been the same physical size as the 4S--with the increase in screen height--I would have been impressed. But stretching it and keeping with the 2007-era bezel? Uh, no.

A 4" iPhone in the same size as the 4/4S would have shown at least some innovation in the product. The iPhone 5 to me reeks of complacency, arrogance, and perhaps laziness.




Michael

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

I think for most of the users, both HTC One and GS4 will be great phones. HTC One has the looks, sense (can be good or bad), good low light performance, good CPU performance etc. GS4 has its features, storage expansion, a slightly bigger battery, good camera etc.

In the end for some of us these minor things can force us to get either of the two, but it is so exciting to see that competition has brewed some really good devices. I know it is still hard for me to decide between the three: Xperia Z, HTC One, and GS4. All three are going to be great for over 90% of the stuff. Now just to see which of these do i choose based on the rest of the minor stuff.

I'm actually glad that the HTC One doesn't have storage expansion and removable battery. Makes my decision so much easier to get the S4. If I didn't care about storage expansion, I would probably stuck between the black S4 or the black HTC One.

The TouchWiz software features also helped me lean in the S4 direction.

The Xperia Z looks a bit too big compared to the S4 and the One. Also I'll be afraid the tabs that cover the ports will eventually break off thus making it not so water resistant anymore.

 

[jrswizzle]

No. I think the iPhone is too long; not too thin. If the iPhone 5 had been the same physical size as the 4S--with the increase in screen height--I would have been impressed. But stretching it and keeping with the 2007-era bezel? Uh, no.

A 4" iPhone in the same size as the 4/4S would have shown at least some innovation in the product. The iPhone 5 to me reeks of complacency, arrogance, and perhaps laziness.




Michael

Too long - that's what I meant.

So fitting a processor that runs with the big boys, battery life that meets/exceeds that of the big boys, the best GPU on the market, one of the best mobile cameras on the market in one of the lightest and thinnest phones on the market is lazy?

The bezel will stay as long as the home button stays - I for one would hate if they made the top bezel smaller and left the bottom bezel the same (given its as small as it can be with the current home button).

FYI - check out the Motorola Droid Razr - there's a 4" Android with the almost the exact same footprint as the iPhone 5. This isn't some hideous creation of Apple's. Simply what a 16:9 4" phone looks like.

And yes - I hope they eventually reduce the bezels, though I for one am not a fan of the "edge-to-edge" displays. I'm constantly accidentally touching my N4 screen with my palm when I reach to the far corner or edge.

 

[Tinmania]

Too long - that's what I meant.

So fitting a processor that runs with the big boys, battery life that meets/exceeds that of the big boys, the best GPU on the market, one of the best mobile cameras on the market in one of the lightest and thinnest phones on the market is lazy?

The bezel will stay as long as the home button stays - I for one would hate if they made the top bezel smaller and left the bottom bezel the same (given its as small as it can be with the current home button).

FYI - check out the Motorola Droid Razr - there's a 4" Android with the almost the exact same footprint as the iPhone 5. This isn't some hideous creation of Apple's. Simply what a 16:9 4" phone looks like.

And yes - I hope they eventually reduce the bezels, though I for one am not a fan of the "edge-to-edge" displays. I'm constantly accidentally touching my N4 screen with my palm when I reach to the far corner or edge.

The home button and bezel on my Note 2 are much smaller than the iPhone's, even with a much larger screen on the former. To me the iPhone looks dated with that bezel (top and bottom; not sides).



Michael

 

[jrswizzle]

The home button and bezel on my Note 2 are much smaller than the iPhone's, even with a much larger screen on the former. To me the iPhone looks dated with that bezel (top and bottom; not sides).



Michael

Sure - until they re-design or get rid of the home button, there's nothing for it.

 

[Bahroo]

No one who has seen a movie playing on my Note 2 ever came to that conclusion. That includes iPhone 5 owners.




Michael

Looks exactly the same when compared to my brothers Note 2 playing the same video, actually the iphone 5 plays the videos sharper due to its higher PPI...video looks better on my 5 then my bros Note 2 imo

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No one who has seen a movie playing on my Note 2 ever came to that conclusion. That includes iPhone 5 owners.




Michael

Note 2 screen is much inferior to the retina display on the 5 imo

 

[Markyboy81]

Looks exactly the same when compared to my brothers Note 2 playing the same video, actually the iphone 5 plays the videos sharper due to its higher PPI...video looks better on my 5 then my bros Note 2 imo

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Note 2 screen is much inferior to the retina display on the 5 imo

The iphone 5 screen would of course look sharper, as it's smaller. It would also appear sharper than a 720p 32 inch TV but we don't all watch tv on 4 inch displays. With a bigger display you don't have to view it up close in order to make out all the detail.

 

[Lava Lamp Freak]

I think you have aspect ratio and resolutions all mixed up,if a pure hd source is 1280x720p in 16:9 ratio and the iphone screen is not 1280x720p it will cut the video up and scale it to its resolutions while staying a 16:9 aspect ratio.You will basically lose a little video doing this but its still being cropped and scaled down

Are you sure? I don't see this happening when I compare a 720p video on my computer to the iPhone 5. I don't notice anything missing on the iPhone. It doesn't look cropped.

 

[nickchallis92]

Higher than necessary....

I plan on purchasing one of these 1080p phones this year to test this theory out. But given I can't see pixels on my iPhone 5, I'd guess any increase in display quality could be attributable to other factors (despite what many think, ppi isn't EVERYTHING)

Thought somebody might say this. I wouldn't bother buying a 1080p screen phone - I know your conclusion already. It's going to look no different to the iPhone 5 screen and then you'll find a reason why the iPhone screen is, in fact, better.

Funny thing is, every review I've read claims that there is a difference between 720p screens and 1080p ones

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This also might ruin a few apple fanboys days

http://blog.gsmarena.com/samsung-ga...firms-amoleds-can-finally-do-accurate-colors/

 

[skratch77]

Are you sure? I don't see this happening when I compare a 720p video on my computer to the iPhone 5. I don't notice anything missing on the iPhone. It doesn't look cropped.

here is a perfect example of the gs3 playing full hd content and the iphone 5 scaling it with black bars to keep its 16:9 aspect ratio

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPNSwRbAnW0

as you can see they gs3 will play native full screen content and even on youtube 720 will play full screen on the gs3

 

[Lava Lamp Freak]

here is a perfect example of the gs3 playing full hd content and the iphone 5 scaling it with black bars to keep its 16:9 aspect ratio

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPNSwRbAnW0

as you can see they gs3 will play native full screen content and even on youtube 720 will play full screen on the gs3

That is an app that hadn't been updated for the iPhone 5 at the time that video was made. 720p does not have bars on the iPhone 5. It plays full screen just like the GS3.

 

[skratch77]

That is an app that hadn't been updated for the iPhone 5 at the time that video was made. 720p does not have bars on the iPhone 5. It plays full screen just like the GS3.

no it does not we just tried it at work with a kid that had a g3s

how the heck is our phone going to show all the 1280x720 pixels when the screen has only 1136x640?it will down scale it and then ad bars where it needs to so it can keep a 16:9 aspect ratio.this is not rocket science here man,I don't know why you are arguing this

do you somehow think it will play full hd 1980x1080 also lol
and the video that you are talking about that plays full screen is cropped to 1136x640 and it lost a little of the video doing it to play at full screen on our phones

 

[zbarvian]

no it does not we just tried it at work with a kid that had a g3s

how the heck is our phone going to show all the 1280x720 pixels when the screen has only 1136x640?it will down scale it and then ad bars where it needs to so it can keep a 16:9 aspect ratio.this is not rocket science here man,I don't know why you are arguing this

do you somehow think it will play full hd 1980x1080 also lol

Please tell me you're joking. Please.

 

[Lava Lamp Freak]

no it does not we just tried it at work with a kid that had a g3s

how the heck is our phone going to show all the 1280x720 pixels when the screen has only 1136x640?

If you see black bars when watching a video on an iPhone 5 it is beacuse of one of two reasons.

1) The app you are looking at hasn't been updated for iOS 6.
2) The aspect ratio of the video isn't 16:9.

1280x720 videos are scaled to 1136x640.

 

[skratch77]

Please tell me you're joking. Please.

is this a joke? are you guys really that naïve

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If you see black bars when watching a video on an iPhone 5 it is beacuse of one of two reasons.

1) The app you are looking at hasn't been updated for iOS 6.
2) The aspect ratio of the video isn't 16:9.

1280x720 videos are scaled to 1136x640.

No crap they are scaled,thats what Iv been tring to tell you people and just so you know,standard hd is1280x720 and it uses a 16:9 aspect ratio

standard full HD like on a bluray is 1080p and also uses the same ratio\

Im guessing you have never tried encoding videos to play in dvd players or never downloaded a torrent xvid or dvix file and looked at how they scale them to save space

here is another example of a true 720p source on both phones and you can see the bars on the iphone 5 keeping the aspect ratio 16:9 instead of stretching the video out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMmAkT6Fhr4

 

[hyteckit]

no it does not we just tried it at work with a kid that had a g3s

how the heck is our phone going to show all the 1280x720 pixels when the screen has only 1136x640?it will down scale it and then ad bars where it needs to so it can keep a 16:9 aspect ratio.this is not rocket science here man,I don't know why you are arguing this

do you somehow think it will play full hd 1980x1080 also lol
and the video that you are talking about that plays full screen is cropped to 1136x640 and it lost a little of the video doing it to play at full screen on our phones

You are clueless.

Lava Lamp Freak is right. "That is an app that hadn't been updated for the iPhone 5 at the time that video was made."

The youtube app shown in the video wasn't updated to take advantage of the new screen resolution. You can tell because the menu bar isn't at the top of the screen.