Remove the laugh emoji for a more respectful community

[icanhazmac]

If you tell me how to check, I will be glad to share. I do seem to get a lot of unwanted attention in the disagree / mocking under the radar category. lol

You can only go back a few pages, I thought you might remember one of your longer streaks from a "fan".

Speaking of which, I just looked and my super fan might be on "extended vacation". I believe his record was 15 straight red emoji on me. I have others but none in the big leagues.

 

[I7guy]

My super fan is back again today 😑

In about a 5 minute window, he emptied his entire quota of daily "dislikes" on me, and then moved on to about 12 more "angry face" reactions

Does the forum have a "might be good for a Mod to check in with this user and make sure they are ok" function?

😬

You are sooooo lucky to have a person who follows your every move. Not.

 

[Weaselboy]

Moderator Note:

For those of you mentioning you have someone downvoting all your posts, go to the member's profile and click the Report button at the top right and explain the problem so we (mods) can take a look.

If we see a pattern of downvotes with no other interaction, we may conclude it is trolling and take action.

 

[SilverSpooned]

I do personally agree with the laugh emoji being removed as I can tell it is used in bad taste.

 

[turbineseaplane]

Moderator Note:

For those of you mentioning you have someone downvoting all your posts, go to the member's profile and click the Report button at the top right and explain the problem so we (mods) can take a look.

If we see a pattern of downvotes with no other interaction, we may conclude it is trolling and take action.

Another "fan" is back today, but how can I report them when they limit who can view their profile?

 

[xJustxMegx]

Another "fan" is back today, but how can I report them when they limit who can view their profile?

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I don't think you can, maybe report one of their messages? That option sucks too, pretty sure they're immune for moderation that way.

 

[turbineseaplane]

I don't think you can, maybe report one of their messages? That option sucks too, pretty sure they're immune for moderation that way.

Seems that way
I have a vague recollection of bringing up this issue a few years ago

 

[Weaselboy]

Another "fan" is back today, but how can I report them when they limit who can view their profile?

Like @xJustxMegx mentioned, just report one of their posts and explain the problem.

 

[AL2TEACH]

Just think of it as a badge of honor from your fan.

 

[I7guy]

Another "fan" is back today, but how can I report them when they limit who can view their profile?

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Was thinking the same thing.

 

[Tagbert]

I do personally agree with the laugh emoji being removed as I can tell it is used in bad taste.

There are times when someone posts something so off that it is hard take seriously but you know that if you start engaging in discussions it would get heated. The laugh emoji can be a way to casually disagree and release some frustration without starting a flame war.

 

[SilverSpooned]

There are times when someone posts something so off that it is hard take seriously but you know that if you start engaging in discussions it would get heated. The laugh emoji can be a way to casually disagree and release some frustration without starting a flame war.

Then you should just use the report button.

 

[turbineseaplane]

There are times when someone posts something so off that it is hard take seriously but you know that if you start engaging in discussions it would get heated. The laugh emoji can be a way to casually disagree and release some frustration without starting a flame war.

It'd be better to "not" leave that reaction, as it's just going to lead to irritating someone

I wish we could all internalize that "we do not have to reply or leave reactions"

If a discussion will "get heated" if you were to reply, then you probably shouldn't be leaving an Emoji reaction either

Just scroll on by

 

[I7guy]

There are times when someone posts something so off that it is hard take seriously but you know that if you start engaging in discussions it would get heated. The laugh emoji can be a way to casually disagree and release some frustration without starting a flame war.

Being passionate is not against the rules. It’s how the message is conveyed that possibly could run a post afoul of the rules. Also I understand something is so off the rails one wants to “haha” it. I try not to use the haha reaction in a negative sense, but sometimes something so off the walls is posted my finger hovers above pressing that reaction.

The thing about the “haha” is it elevates your reaction score. So I say haha my posts all you want.

 

[Tagbert]

Then you should just use the report button.

That is the nuclear option and these kinds of posts are not that level. A passing disdain is sufficient.

 

[Iwavvns]

I think we should keep in mind that someone downvoting your post, or pressing the "ha ha" emoji, doesn't actually change the content of your post. That is because their reaction is just opinion, and opinion != fact. Their reaction cannot negatively affect you unless you allow it to. An enemy can only work with what you give them.

 

[Scepticalscribe]

There are times when someone posts something so off that it is hard take seriously but you know that if you start engaging in discussions it would get heated. The laugh emoji can be a way to casually disagree and release some frustration without starting a flame war.

Why not then - in that case - choose to use disagree, dislike, or other emojis to signal your disapproval?

The problem with the laugh emoji (used in such a context) is that there is nothing to distinguish between, or, to signal whether it is - or has been - used to laugh at (as in, jeer at) - or laugh with (share a chuckle) - a poster (or a post).

Thus, unlike act of pressing on (clicking) the "like", "dislike", "anger" etc emojis, to signal a response to a post, there is a clear - and equally, clearly, an ambiguity, - when one clicks on the "laugh" emoji, as one does not quite know whether a post is laughed at, or, laughed with.

My own, personal, suggestion (response?) is that the forum have (create? design?) - at its proverbial finger-tips - two distinct designs, to allow for the expression of these two different, respective, emojis, designs that can clearly allow one to distinguish between a desire to laugh at (sneer at, mock, deride) and a desire to laugh with (share a chuckle with, allow for the expression of a shared outlook on life, the universe, with a reluctant - but shared - grin)....

 

[Tagbert]

Why not then - in that case - choose to use disagree, dislike, or other emojis to signal your disapproval?

The problem with the laugh emoji (used in such a context) is that there is nothing to distinguish between, or, to signal whether it is - or has been - used to laugh at (as in, jeer at) - or laugh with (share a chuckle) - a poster (or a post).

Thus, unlike act of pressing on (clicking) the "like", "dislike", "anger" etc emojis, to signal a response to a post, there is a clear - and equally, clearly, an ambiguity, - when one clicks on the "laugh" emoji, as one does not quite know whether a post is laughed at, or, laughed with.

My own, personal, suggestion (response?) is that the forum have (create? design?) - at its proverbial finger-tips - two distinct designs, to allow for the expression of these two different, respective, emojis, designs that can clearly allow one to distinguish between a desire to laugh at (sneer at, mock, deride) and a desire to laugh with (share a chuckle with, allow for the expression of a shared outlook on life, the universe, with a reluctant - but shared - grin)....

Disagree can be appropriate sometimes though it is not always available.
Anger is not necessarily the right emoji.
Sometimes a laugh is the right response.

I don’t go flooding the site with them, but it is good to have the option when necessary.

 

[turbineseaplane]

My own, personal, suggestion (response?) is that the forum have (create? design?) - at its proverbial finger-tips - two distinct designs, to allow for the expression of these two different, respective, emojis, designs that can clearly allow one to distinguish between a desire to laugh at (sneer at, mock, deride) and a desire to laugh with (share a chuckle with, allow for the expression of a shared outlook on life, the universe, with a reluctant - but shared - grin)....

Should the forum actually have an emoji to express a "laughing at" (sneer at, mock, deride)?

That seems like a pretty toxic reaction option to have available at a click

 

[I7guy]

Why not then - in that case - choose to use disagree, dislike, or other emojis to signal your disapproval?

The problem with the laugh emoji (used in such a context) is that there is nothing to distinguish between, or, to signal whether it is - or has been - used to laugh at (as in, jeer at) - or laugh with (share a chuckle) - a poster (or a post).

Thus, unlike act of pressing on (clicking) the "like", "dislike", "anger" etc emojis, to signal a response to a post, there is a clear - and equally, clearly, an ambiguity, - when one clicks on the "laugh" emoji, as one does not quite know whether a post is laughed at, or, laughed with.

My own, personal, suggestion (response?) is that the forum have (create? design?) - at its proverbial finger-tips - two distinct designs, to allow for the expression of these two different, respective, emojis, designs that can clearly allow one to distinguish between a desire to laugh at (sneer at, mock, deride) and a desire to laugh with (share a chuckle with, allow for the expression of a shared outlook on life, the universe, with a reluctant - but shared - grin)....

Should the forum actually have an emoji to express a "laughing at" (sneer at, mock, deride)?

That seems like a pretty toxic reaction option to have available at a click

Is a sneer more toxic than using the “haha” to mock or deride another post? Is it more toxic than using the disagree or angry face?

Another way to handle this maybe to limit all reactions except love and like to 10. Similar to the disagree.

I also think the “haha” emoji should be updated to have a thumbs up. That should send some who have used the “haha” to mock or deride into another course of action.

There is no simple solution that across the board everybody will be 100% good with.

 

[Scepticalscribe]

Should the forum actually have an emoji to express a "laughing at" (sneer at, mock, deride)?

Yes, if only to draw a distinction between a response which makes clear that it is "laughing at" rather than "laughing with" the contents of a post.

Now, my own personal opinion, for what it is worth, is that all of the emojis - with the possible exception of the simple 'like" button, and I would not shed a tear were that to be culled, as well - should be removed.

Personally, I would argue that they add little (if anything) to an online conversation, or discussion, but, instead, allow for a poster to register a lazy (but swift) fleeting response, which does serve to drive up - increase - engagement, numbers, (and, thus, clicks that can be measured).

That seems like a pretty toxic reaction option to have available at a click

Agreed.

It is a toxic reaction, but it also allows for the possibility of drawing a distinction, making clear the difference, between the derision implied by a response of "laughing at", and the shared pleasure of "laughing with", someone.

 

[I7guy]

My super fan is back today!

Gave me all of his allotted downvotes for the day, and now has moved on to the "unlimited" angry faces on every post he can find!!

😂
🫠

Sidenote:

Maybe all emoji reactions should have a daily quota?
or at least the negative ones?

Maybe just to protect a users own mental health from boiling over?

I remembered this post. My “superfan” is disagreeing or “hahaing” my posts again. Makes me feel special.

 

[hobowankenobi]

FWIW, if I had a magic wand, emojis would not be used in public forums such as this.

I would be fine with simple thumbs up and thumbs down, or radio buttons:

1. Agree
2. Disagree

Remove the ambiguity.

Not emotional, not mocking, simple, convenient, clear. If folks want to laugh, snark, mock, troll, you still can—up to the limit of the community standards. Type it out and own it.

 

[T'hain Esh Kelch]

Just remove the whole "reactions" thing altogether..... I think that in the long run this would improve things around here significantly! it really is too easy to simply hit an emoji rather than actually use words to express one's actual thoughts on a given topic, and it also is way too easy for that emoji to be misinterpreted by the OP or someone else looking at the thread.

While I agree on what you are saying, in a tech forum where solutions can be found, it is really nice to have reactions of some sort to quickly see which posts have proper solutions that work, and which don't.

 

[Analog Kid]

That is the nuclear option and these kinds of posts are not that level. A passing disdain is sufficient.

Laughing at is mockery, not disdain.