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Returned M1. Won’t Beta test this
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I take the time to provide you with information, my time is just as valuable as yours. If you don't want a real answer, don't ask.
Au contraire, I am accepting your statement as fact. If I doubted you I would watch the video.
I wanted an answer, the delivery from you was solid, the video looked well done when I clicked through it, and I accept your statement. I don't see a reason to watch 20min for additional minimal gain after you've met my hurdle.
Never had a recently purchased electronic item die on you before, I guess?
Convenient for you since you were already going to return it.
Convenient for you since you were already going to return it.
Well, see... I'm not suggesting that you return the MacBook Air and get a Pro.
Rather, it's that Apple may want to let the Air throttle earlier... or limit maximum performance so that it doesn't reach 90+C in the first place.
That way, the computer will be less likely to fail.
Yeah, I agree, which is why I started the firearm thread to keep track of this, precisely.
Given it is a brand new fan less chip that has never been used in a consumer setting, I would think usage would be good to know. That way, if other users start experiencing the same thing on a regular basis, it might help track the problem a little better.
Are the few dead reports due to faulty design of some kind, users putting the Air through much more than Apple expected with the fanless design or a combination of both? Who knows at this point.
You have what, a six year warranty effectively? https://www.apple.com/uk/legal/statutory-warranty/
I'd not buy AC+ in that instance either.
Though that said, an 8 GPU core 16/1T MBA with AC+ and sales tax is US$2,012 while the same config without AC in the UK Apple store is £1,649 incl VAT, or $2,223. So even with AC+ I'd still be well ahead...
hmmm. Look around and google for failing M1... then go and google failing dell. Then go and search for failing *put brand name in*. There is no perfect world. You could get a failing everything, from car to hair dryer. If the m1 would have a general problem with failing machines then at least Reddit would be full of it, Linus Tech Tips would make videos laughing about it and all.
M1 buyers aren’t beta testers as this technology was beta tested by millions of iPad and iPhone users... don’t be silly.
The OS might have its flaws but I’m sure you are much safer buying a m1 than buying a new designed MacBook.
M1 buyers aren’t beta testers as this technology was beta tested by millions of iPad and iPhone users... don’t be silly.
The OS might have its flaws but I’m sure you are much safer buying a m1 than buying a new designed MacBook.
For years, Apple has been running Intel chips as close to 100 °C as you can get without any problems whatsoever.
That said, you got a lemon and a simple exchange would have done the trick.
My dad once bought a new Mercedes and the darn head gasket clocked out after some 1,500 miles in. Happens. Gasket fixed and it ran merrily for almost 10 years when he sold it off to a guy who's driving it to this day without any further issues.
That said, you got a lemon and a simple exchange would have done the trick.
My dad once bought a new Mercedes and the darn head gasket clocked out after some 1,500 miles in. Happens. Gasket fixed and it ran merrily for almost 10 years when he sold it off to a guy who's driving it to this day without any further issues.
Why would you beta test an M1 to then complain? Makes no sense. I would not Beta test stuff. Also I need proof you bought this device, A Picture of you with this M1 and a copy of todays newspaper.
Users "putting the Air through much more than Apple expected" is still a faulty design in my book. If a chip cannot handle a certain junction temperature, the thing needs to be designed to not sit at that junction temperature after a heat soak.
That said, it's also possible these reported issues more related to die yields and QA process than a design flaw. I'm not convinced that the Air's design is flawed at this point. Not without evidence demonstrating such a design flaw exists, or that more mundane manufacturing problems aren't at fault.
We are talking about what amounts to an A14X with TB controllers.
How could it possibly be worse than the MBA Intels hitting 100c after watching a 4k video ? It felt like that fan did nothing. I can't even get my MBA 8GB M1 to get warm.
I think you just got a lemon.
I think you just got a lemon.
iPad SoCs like the A12Z can also pump out 10W continually in a small form factor, so I’m fairly certain Apple know the tolerances of their own designs.
At least better than all the sofa processor engineers that suddenly inhabits this forum.
I have no doubt Apple knows their machine tolerance. I am not planning on buying a M1 until next year. I will still be following reports like this.
Who knows, there may be some real processor engineers on this forum.
I wouldn't compare the price of consumer goods with that 20% VAT, as we get a ton for the taxes we pay (very low in the UK on the whole but with a good return IMHO). VAT is 14% of the UK governments revenue, so it covers 1/7 of my free medical care, pension returns, parental leave, reduced university tuition, etc...You have what, a six year warranty effectively? https://www.apple.com/uk/legal/statutory-warranty/
I'd not buy AC+ in that instance either.
Though that said, an 8 GPU core 16/1T MBA with AC+ and sales tax is US$2,012 while the same config without AC in the UK Apple store is £1,649 incl VAT, or $2,223. So even with AC+ I'd still be well ahead...
and this isn't the politics forum so this is where the conversation ends.
I'm not a sofa processor engineer, but... can you please point out a source saying the iPad can sustain 10W continuously?
I'm fairly certain Apple claims the MacBook Air M1 has a thermal envelope of 10W. So... I find it a bit hard to believe that my iPad Pro 11" is running a chip that has the same thermal capability as a MacBook Air.
This. Statistically electronic devices that are faulty fail during the first few days or weeks. That’s usually a production issue then. If they survive those first days, they’re unlikely to die any time soon.
hey guys, I just wanted to add that the MacBook Air did work flawlessly when I used it. Battery lasted 2 days. I used about 10% battery exporting a 25 min 4k HRD video as a ProRes 10 bit video. Export was faster than MBP 16. The apple store didn't have any MacBook to give me as none were in stock so I couldn't just exchange it. If you need such a portable MacBook now, get it. If you dont, wait for a redesign. Thats my opinion. I'll get one when they redesign it to what it could be and not this retrofit thing because lets face it. Many of us are trying to export 10 bit videos with this thing.
My post was more about the apparent UK warranty laws affecting the perceived value of adding AppleCare there vs elsewhere.
The after-tax cost comparison was intended not as a tax comparison but to illustrate that even with AC, the out of pocket cost was still lower — making AC perhaps a less unattractive option outside the UK.