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I have now joined this club. X for the 8 Plus. I realized it’s insane for me to try and convince myself that I love the X when I don’t. When the Plus model version or whatever they call it comes out next year I’ll give it another try. I’m a bit sad, I have never returned a phone before.
 
Since you took my comments so seriously I was going to apologize until you had to throw in the huge bezel thing. All these years no one said a thing about bezels. Samsung and others came out with almost bezelless phones still not a peep. Everyone kept buying iPhones in mass and praised their design. Now that Apple has released the X, the "huge bezels" have become an unbearable burden and catch phrase that insinuates all previous phones are hideous. Also, I point out that a X costs over a grand. I'm sure it's a nice phone, but it's overpriced in my opinion. I CHOOSE to look elsewhere. I can find better use for the money I save. Not sure how that equates to being juvenile. If anything, insulting other people because they express an opinion different from yours or view phones as a practical tool seems to be the juvenile attitude here.

I’m going to just write off you taking offense to my point of view as just another unhappy fanboy who doesn’t like reading about those who do not see the X as the holy grail of phones. Sorry.
Fanboy? That's rich. This is only the second iphone i've owned. I tried it when they finally increased the screen size but the phone was just a little too unwieldy with the unused space (won't use the "b" word, i promise and I'm sorry it offends you). I stand by my original statement. I made my purchase not because of some petty status thing, i made it because apple finally made a phone without the b's...just like i finally bought an apple phone for the first time when they decided to increase the screen size. i apologize if I went about it in a dickish way, your wide sweeping assumption that only status seekers bought an X is so far off base. Take care, enjoy your phone, i'll enjoy mine. I happen to love it.

And by the way, if you read my post, "what's juvenile" is making assumptions, wide sweeping assumptions. Most people with experience in this world know that there are so many variations of the human mind/human experience that stereotypes and assumptions about intent are nearly impossible to make accurately.
 
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I have now joined this club. X for the 8 Plus. I realized it’s insane for me to try and convince myself that I love the X when I don’t. When the Plus model version or whatever they call it comes out next year I’ll give it another try. I’m a bit sad, I have never returned a phone before.

A thousand dollar iPhone would be even a worse decision if you were to keep it for something you don't like. At least you made a rational decision that you wanted something else that the iPhone X was not it, which the iPhone 8 is still a great choice that Apple offers.
 
srs question.. did the novelty of imessage animation wear off for you? I remember when the update first had them I was using it all the time. Now I don't even remember that it's a feature of my phone

The initial novelty factor has worn off for sure, but I still use it, just not as much. Some things are just funnier to say with Animoji making odd little expressions than with words.
 
During the 6 weeks I had my iPhone 8 Plus I loved it. I was also convinced I wouldn't be interested in a non-home button iPhone. I didn't even pre-order a X. Then last Friday morning I found myself in line at 3am waiting on a X. After a week with it, I love it. I miss the home button, but am adapting and getting much more familiar with FID and Swipe up. Much respect for everyone's personal choices here. Both the 8 plus and X are amazing devices. Enjoy them all.....
 
A thousand dollar iPhone would be even a worse decision if you were to keep it for something you don't like. At least you made a rational decision that you wanted something else that the iPhone X was not it, which the iPhone 8 is still a great choice that Apple offers.

The 8 Plus isn't exactly that cheap either. But it is pretty funny these people are exchanging the X for SOMETHING. Most aren't going back to their old plus. Apple wins and enjoys the profit margin on your purchase regardless. A strange thing this desire to have something new, if not an X, then an 8.
 
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I never get these journal topics and people debating what someone else did. This topic should have died.
 
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I recommend to anyone looking to buy anything, to do your due diligence. All of your complaints known well before the release of the phone. While I also understand at times people need to try it to see if its a good fit, I think overall you can get an idea of this is something that fits a need.

There are plenty of threads here where people are returning their phones, and much more where people are not. Get the phone that fits your needs and budget. If the X is not that phone, so be it. One size does not fit all, and that's why Apple offers a number of different models. There is also competitor's of apple that if you don't want to stick with iOS.

In the end, you do not have have to justify your purchase or your return, but rather choose something that you can live with

I wonder if for some like myself, we are so eager for Apple to release something "new", something "different", that we will jump at whatever they throw at us, to later find it was not what we were hoping for.

Others will be happy with any new release and be very satisfied.

It's a lot easier to please some of the people some of the time, than it is to please all of the people all of the time.
 
I have now joined this club. X for the 8 Plus. I realized it’s insane for me to try and convince myself that I love the X when I don’t. When the Plus model version or whatever they call it comes out next year I’ll give it another try. I’m a bit sad, I have never returned a phone before.

At this you tried it, no harm in returning the X if it is not to your liking.
 
Fanboy? That's rich. This is only the second iphone i've owned. I tried it when they finally increased the screen size but the phone was just a little too unwieldy with the unused space (won't use the "b" word, i promise and I'm sorry it offends you). I stand by my original statement. I made my purchase not because of some petty status thing, i made it because apple finally made a phone without the b's...just like i finally bought an apple phone for the first time when they decided to increase the screen size. i apologize if I went about it in a dickish way, your wide sweeping assumption that only status seekers bought an X is so far off base. Take care, enjoy your phone, i'll enjoy mine. I happen to love it.

And by the way, if you read my post, "what's juvenile" is making assumptions, wide sweeping assumptions. Most people with experience in this world know that there are so many variations of the human mind/human experience that stereotypes and assumptions about intent are nearly impossible to make accurately.

The comment I originally responded to was:

"iPhone 8 are for the people who freak out over change, like the OP".

Now read again what I wrote in response:

"The 8 could also be for people who are smart with their money or don’t subscribe to the idea that a phone is a status symbol or part of their identity".

Nowhere did I mention the X, make assumptions about large groups of people, or otherwise make juvenile comments. I responded to a juvenile comment and a "sweeping assumption" about the type of person who buys an 8.

If anything wide sweeping assumptions and stereotypes were applied to what I wrote. I think you took my comment out of context.

I do agree with your comment "Most people with experience in this world know that there are so many variations of the human mind/human experience". I'd take my own advise in this case.
 
The comment I originally responded to was:

"iPhone 8 are for the people who freak out over change, like the OP".

Now read again what I wrote in response:

"The 8 could also be for people who are smart with their money or don’t subscribe to the idea that a phone is a status symbol or part of their identity".

Nowhere did I mention the X, make assumptions about large groups of people, or otherwise make juvenile comments. I responded to a juvenile comment and a "sweeping assumption" about the type of person who buys an 8.

If anything wide sweeping assumptions and stereotypes were applied to what I wrote. I think you took my comment out of context.

I do agree with your comment "Most people with experience in this world know that there are so many variations of the human mind/human experience". I'd take my own advise in this case.



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"The 8 could also be for people who are smart with their money or don’t subscribe to the idea that a phone is a status symbol or part of their identity".

clearly implies that someone choosing an X isn't smart with their money, which is a sweeping generalisation and an insult. It also implies that anyone buying an X is only doing so as a status symbol. Also a sweeping generalisation
 
1. Coming from an iPhone 7 Plus screen to the iPhone X screen is a downgrade, don't care what anyone says, everything is bigger on on my 7 Plus and 1080 resolution just fits everything nicely on the screen. The 1125 resolution on the iPhone X is just weird, especially watching youtube videos because everything out there is 1080p. Not to mention my 7 Plus is brighter and more cool compared to the X oled screen and I perfer the cooler color. I'll wait for the iPhone X Plus if Apple ever decides to release it.

2. My phone is always on my desk and with touch ID, I can easily unlock the phone without picking it up and take a quick glance at notifications with my 7 plus. I can't do that with the iPhone X, now I have to pick up the unit for face ID and swipe up, not convenient at all.

For paying $1200 w/ tax, I just wanted something that is better than my 7 Plus and I feel as though it's a step backwards for me due to the reasons above. If it works for you, that's great, I hope you continue enjoying your device, but this is definitely not for me. I really hope they release an iPhone X Plus with touch ID embedded into the screen.

EDIT 11/6/17: Yes, true tone was turned off on the X, and both brightness was turned to the max on both the Plus and X, the plus is brighter and cooler, the X was less bright and more warm/yellowish.

For people who doesn't believe I actually purchased one, here's my return receipt.
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and here is an example of video cropping on the X compared to the plus (not my picture)

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[doublepost=1510323881][/doublepost]I have a 6 plus and getting adjusted to the screen took a little bit in x but did that in few days. I am considering returning it....

Pro’s: It is much faster
Better camera

Cons:
Cannot deal with the notch on lighter backgrounds and that includes more than 90% of the use (emails, browsing, videos, etc).
Face ID is ok but don’t see the need to swipe after Face ID
The black bar at the bottom is distracting
They should have done a better job of taking care of the aesthetics on the phone
 
I have received my iPhone X today (Earlier shipped than 13th so that's something)

I am looking at it, screen changes colour on different angles. Notch is noticeable. Blank space below keyboard looks awful

But above all, I just see an £1149 phone and question whether it's worth it. I'm really not convinced. I just don't feel excited by this phone, not like I have with every iPhone I've had before and if I'm honest I feel like Apple are ripping me off. I also think about their butchering of the apple Watch functionality (iPhone music control) and it's not the apple I grew to respect

I guess for the 10th anniversary I expected incredible innovation and I don't see it

So, I have 14 days and really not sure
 
I think that if that's true then it's probably a user issue. I have found my success rate has gone up from about 70% on day 1 to 95% now. BTW I was never at 100% on touch id either because for instance if I had moisture on my hands the touch id didn't work well.

What I learned about Face ID is that (1) you shouldn't make distorted faces - i.e. scrunch your face, squinting, squinting one eye, etc. (2) If you are resting your head on a pillow make sure you have enough of your head visible. Once I adjusted for those things then it's been just as reliable as touch ID. I can even use it without lifting my phone of my desk.

It is entirely possible it’s a user issue. I have vision problems and have to hold the phone super-close to my face to see it clearly. Glasses/contacts do not help enough, I still need the physical closeness to read... and that closeness is too close for Face ID. I’m hoping they can improve the sensor at some point.
 
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clearly implies that someone choosing an X isn't smart with their money, which is a sweeping generalisation and an insult. It also implies that anyone buying an X is only doing so as a status symbol. Also a sweeping generalisation

Wrong. I said "The 8 could also be for people who are smart with their money" No mention of the X at all. I implied people who buy an 8 may be fiscally conscious of their decision. No mention of X users being anything. I was responding to a comment from someone else insinuating 8 users are stuck in the past or afraid of change.

I then go on to provide a basis for my reasoning by saying I "don’t subscribe to the idea that a phone is a status symbol or part of their identity". Again no mention of the X. If you assumed that is what I was referring to thats on you. I was talking about buying a phone, any phone. Trust me I typed the words. My apologies if you took it personally.

If you have to argue with people on a forum about reasons for buying a phone, or argue the idea that people see a phone as a status thing, then maybe it really is an identity issue. My apologies to all. I'm done here.
 
Also don’t like the 3 step process to delete any active apps. I really wanted to upgrade but will wait for the next version. I need to feel happy about a phone after spending 1k+
 
Purchases my first iPhone coming from Galaxy S7 and at first this X seemed what I wanted, but after a week of minor faseID issues I returned the X for the 8+. I prefer the larger screen for my larger hands and the keyboard was so much better for me. I do hope that Apple will come out with a larger size iPhone X next year so I can give that a go.
 
Your concern is valid. When apple said it was 5.8 I had assume the screen would be the same size as the plus. But now I put my iPhone x next to my fiancé's 7 plus and I can see the screen the difference. The plus is wider while the X is taller.

For me the X screen size is fine and sufficient. I have small hands so I find the X easier to hold.But if there's a iphone x coming out next year, I probably will go with the plus size.
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Yeah I feel like there are too many iphone x haters since the release yesterday.

Confession - didn't read the other 400 replies before responding to this early one - so maybe many already said this - but:

The screen on the X is actually larger! The physical 7Plus phone body is larger due to the bezel.. but the screen itself is 5.7" diagonal where the X is 5.8. And there is no decrease in physical screen size as you allude. X's is wider AND taller than 7Plus.

So if you dislike the screen's looks.. that's one thing.. but your size arguments just don't fit the facts.
 
Confession - didn't read the other 400 replies before responding to this early one - so maybe many already said this - but:

The screen on the X is actually larger! The physical 7Plus phone body is larger due to the bezel.. but the screen itself is 5.7" diagonal where the X is 5.8. And there is no decrease in physical screen size as you allude. X's is wider AND taller than 7Plus.

So if you dislike the screen's looks.. that's one thing.. but your size arguments just don't fit the facts.

Your argument don’t fit
 

Ah well. No big. Apple's not the only media company trying to strong arm the industry to 21:9 aspect ratio.. from my reading just now.. in the meantime I'll enjoy a few more lines of text in Portrait mode. No big.. Nothing to get all huffy about and return your phone for..
 
Confession - didn't read the other 400 replies before responding to this early one - so maybe many already said this - but:

The screen on the X is actually larger! The physical 7Plus phone body is larger due to the bezel.. but the screen itself is 5.7" diagonal where the X is 5.8. And there is no decrease in physical screen size as you allude. X's is wider AND taller than 7Plus.

So if you dislike the screen's looks.. that's one thing.. but your size arguments just don't fit the facts.

Then you don't know the facts....the effective area for videos (not filling the screen), photos and UI elements like the keyboard are nearly identical to the iPhone 8, not the plus.

The size classes being used for coding the apps on the X are those for the smaller iPhones, not the larger.
 
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