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1. Coming from an iPhone 7 Plus screen to the iPhone X screen is a downgrade, don't care what anyone says, everything is bigger on on my 7 Plus and 1080 resolution just fits everything nicely on the screen. The 1125 resolution is just weird, especially watching youtube videos because everything out there is 1080p. Not to mention my 7 Plus is brighter and more cool compared to the X oled screen and I perfer the cooler color. I'll wait for the iPhone X Plus if Apple ever decides to release it.

2. My phone is always on my desk and with touch ID, I can easily unlock the phone without picking it up and take a quick glance at notifications. I can't do that with the iPhone X, now I have to pick up the unit for face ID and swipe up, not convenient at all.

For paying $1200 w/ tax, I just wanted something that is better than my 7 Plus and I feel as though it's a step backwards for me due to the reasons above. If it works for you, that's great, I hope you continue enjoying your device, but this is definitely not for me. I really hope they release an iPhone X Plus with touch ID embedded into the screen.

I could not agree more with you. Returned mine for the same reason. Once Apple launches a X Plus they have my money. Go big or go home.
 
The X is severely over rated. Bought one and gave it back. Those needing to justify their purchase will always find great things to say about it.
I cannot see the differences in screen quality compared to the 7 plus/8 plus...You are also losing screen real estate...

A fool and their money are easily parted ;)

Wow how RUDE. If people like the X, let them like it. There is no need to scorn them, put them down or call them names just because YOU don't like it. I really like my X and I'm coming from a 7+. I liked the 7+ too but it was just too much for my small hands. I was getting some serious issues (pain, muscle spams, tingling and numbness) whenever I held it for more than a few minutes.

The X is a great phone. The 8 and 8+ are great phones, and it's great there are several choices for everyone.
 
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/how-long-do-you-plan-on-keeping-your-x.2081595/liked-posts

^ The reply from Spink10 was the only answer I liked. Wisdom.

Think ahead and be aware of your finances. Don't be prisoners of the moment. Those bills after awhile will start to pile up.

If people want to buy the X and have the money to pay up front or can afford the monthly lease, fine. If they prefer to keep their existing phone or upgrade to something different, fine. Either way there is no need to lecture them.
 
the resolution has nothing to do with your youtube experience..



the resolution at 1125 px just means you get a crispier image because you have more pixels packed in the same space.



what you probably dont like is the aspect ratio. and thats fine, you are resistant to change. some people complained when their 3.5" screen in the iphone 4 became obsolete because they bought apple's "makes sense screen because you can reach it with your thumb from edge to edge".


LCDs are indeed brighter because they beam a constant light throughout the screen. however, this prevents deep contrasts and a truer black; as well as being less battery efficient.

take your time.. one step at a time. you'll get there eventually.

Change for the sake of change is not progress. Maybe they just don't like the phone?
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Sorry, I consider the 8 plus a mistake phone or an ,”Oops I did it again”, phone o”in the words of Britney. Sorry like many others I got tired of those damn huge bezels and huge clunky phone. Is it perfect, no and nothing is but suggesting the the 8 plus is a better choice is crazy. No way in hell is it. I would rather you try and Android than get a phone that has had the same boring design for the last 4 years.

Too funny. Until the X came along everyone was happy with their HUGE bezels for years. Samsung came out with almost no bezel a while ago, not to mention OLED, but the iPhone choir still loved their phones. Now because Apple "finally" comes out with a phone without bezels, all the millions of iPhones out there are clunky, huge bricks that no one wants. Give me a break.

I choose the 8 plus over the X. I do not want Face ID, and spending over a grand for a phone is silly.

I think the 8 is a great phone. Fast, wireless charging, Touch ID, still all valid to many of us. Enjoy your phone. I hope you feel your status has been elevated over a... phone.... without bezels no less... Congratulations.
 
Half the people here want to be petted and told that they did a good job buying the iPhone X. That's it. They want to justify the fact that they spend $1,000 on an iPhone. They'll be the same ones in public trying to show everyone that they have an X.

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Actually, this is an incorrect premise. Because it is not a zero sum game -- in other words, it is improper to assume it is $0.00 vs. $1,000.00. Because the issue is you are getting a phone -but which model? So if you choose the iPhone 8/plus, you are spending about $800.00. So the comparison is not $0 to $1,000, the comparison is $800 to $1,000. Therefore, the justification would relate ONLY for spending $200 MORE than they otherwise would have -- not for spending $1,000.00 on a phone (they are at least spending $800, no matter what). And the difference between $800 and $1,000 is trivial in the long run. (Throws mic down).
 
Actually, this is an incorrect premise. Because it is not a zero sum game -- in other words, it is improper to assume it is $0.00 vs. $1,000.00. Because the issue is you are getting a phone -but which model? So if you choose the iPhone 8/plus, you are spending about $800.00. So the comparison is not $0 to $1,000, the comparison is $800 to $1,000. Therefore, the justification would relate ONLY for spending $200 MORE than they otherwise would have -- not for spending $1,000.00 on a phone (they are at least spending $800, no matter what). And the difference between $800 and $1,000 is trivial in the long run. (Throws mic down).

Interesting. Someone says the difference is only $200, but then hey why not get more storage, it's only $150 more than that. Next thing you know it's $350 more than where you started. "It's only $200" usually happens with people who are either wealthy, or very bad with their money. Does not sound trivial to me.
 
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Interesting. Someone says the difference is only $200, but then hey why not get more storage, it's only $150 more than that. Next thing you know it's $350 more than where you started. "It's only $200" usually happens with people who are either wealthy, or very bad with their money. Does not sound trivial to me.

No, because a valid assumption in the scenario posed is that storage and other options will be chosen the same on either the 8 or the X. So if I want a 64 GB 8, I'm also considering a 64 GB X - so apples to apples comparison. But either way, it is still $800 vs. $1000 or $1000 + . And $200 is 20% of $1000. If you can afford $800, you can afford $1000. It's not a big stretch, particularly if you pay over 24 months.
 
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Interesting. Someone says the difference is only $200, but then hey why not get more storage, it's only $150 more than that. Next thing you know it's $350 more than where you started. "It's only $200" usually happens with people who are either wealthy, or very bad with their money. Does not sound trivial to me.

Or who are happy to save up an extra $200 more, even if it means delayed gratification.
 
No, because a valid assumption in the scenario posed is that storage and other options will be chosen the same on either the 8 or the X. So if I want a 64 GB 8, I'm also considering a 64 GB X - so apples to apples comparison. But either way, it is still $800 vs. $1000 or $1000 + . And $200 is 20% of $1000. If you can afford $800, you can afford $1000. It's not a big stretch, particularly if you pay over 24 months.

Thats my whole point. If you have to finance $800 then you cant afford $1000.
 
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Thats my whole point. If you have to finance $800 then you cant afford $1000.

I'm a professional that makes well into 6 figures. I don't HAVE to finance, but I did. Why -- it's smart. There's no interest. Better for me to hold onto the $1,000 and divvy it out monthly to Verizon, than pay it all up front. So the financing aspect doesn't play into this scenario. Moreover, your point doesn't address the issue that was raised - which is people trying to "justify" buying a "$1,000" phone. The issue is not financing, whether its an 8 or an X. The point is, in the grand scheme of things, there is little difference between an $800 phone and a $1000 phone, from a monetary perspective. $200 is negligible at that price point. There is nothing magical about $1000 that makes someone need to justify that over justifying spending $800 on a phone (its both a decent chunk of change).
 
I've spent the last half hour reading all the replies on this thread. This was a very interesting thread to read indeed. I'm coming from a 7+ which I have absolutely loved. It's an outstanding phone and by no means is showing its age. Sure there are sleeker phones out there. The Samsung phones and their infinite edge is pretty darn cool. And the camera on the Pixel 2 is something to behold. But it's not all about the hardware. iOS, the apple ecosystem, the quality build of their products all play a part in why I think their products are far superior to any other option out there.

I've been using the X for 2 days now. I love it, but I'm not 100% sold. I enjoy the larger screen of the 6+ and 7+, but I do remember wondering if I made the right choice when the 6+ came out. That phone was HUGE compared to the 5 and I wondered if I would want to carry around a phone that large. But I came to love the size and was more than happy to got with the 7+ when it came out. So I'm not not quite sure I'm ready to downsize to a smaller phone, but I'm definitely going it give it more time before I make the final decision. The phone's hardware is amazing. I absolutely love FaceID, it's worked 99% of the time for me, far better than TouchID did. Unlocking the phone just feels natural. The gesture controls are so well designed. I'm still not sold on the screen quality though. True Tone is a joke and unusable (so I turned it off of course). And the color shift when viewing at angles is a bit annoying but not a deal breaker. I'm getting used to a smaller keyboard which is actually a bit trickier to type on, but that will come with practice. The smaller form factor definitely makes the phone easier to carry around.

My biggest debate is: is this phone worth $1200? My 7+ works just fine. I only owe $400 on it and it's paid in full, and I've been totally happy with it. But I love new tech, and the X is a beautiful phone with its full screen and all the other features I mentioned above. 12 days left to make my decision. At least it's a decision between 2 great pieces of hardware. There are worse problems in the world :p
 
Change for the sake of change is not progress. Maybe they just don't like the phone?
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Too funny. Until the X came along everyone was happy with their HUGE bezels for years. Samsung came out with almost no bezel a while ago, not to mention OLED, but the iPhone choir still loved their phones. Now because Apple "finally" comes out with a phone without bezels, all the millions of iPhones out there are clunky, huge bricks that no one wants. Give me a break.

I choose the 8 plus over the X. I do not want Face ID, and spending over a grand for a phone is silly.

I think the 8 is a great phone. Fast, wireless charging, Touch ID, still all valid to many of us. Enjoy your phone. I hope you feel your status has been elevated over a... phone.... without bezels no less... Congratulations.

Lol. What a big assumption you are making. I for one was definitely not happy with the huge ass bezels or the non oled screen. I go back and forth between Samsung phones and it’s one of my biggest issues with the Iphones of the past.

Status symbol, you do know the fact that you own and IPhone people on android think the same thing about you right. Like how could someone love an IPhone when Androids have way more features.

If you think the 8 is great I’m glad that’s what you bought. I honestly don’t think it’s a good enough improvement over the 7 or 6. My biggest like is the OLED screen because the screen is the thing I use the most on the phone. If your happy with 1080p great for you, I just wasn’t having that any more. Great that we have choices.

And to the ones saying that I and anyone,”defending”, the X are just trying to justify our purchase, well the same could be said for the ones trying to justify why they won’t buy it or why they are returning it.
 
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I had a 6 plus, got the X yesterday. Love it. The footprint is better and the screen is essentially the same size (particularly in portrait). And I don't use landscape that much or watch 2 hour movies on an iPhone (have an iPad for that). And faceID is awesome. Oh, and the 6 plus ran horribly on ios 11.
Everything runs horrible on iOS 11. It might be the sloppiest release yet.
 
the resolution has nothing to do with your youtube experience..



the resolution at 1125 px just means you get a crispier image because you have more pixels packed in the same space.



what you probably dont like is the aspect ratio. and thats fine, you are resistant to change. some people complained when their 3.5" screen in the iphone 4 became obsolete because they bought apple's "makes sense screen because you can reach it with your thumb from edge to edge".


LCDs are indeed brighter because they beam a constant light throughout the screen. however, this prevents deep contrasts and a truer black; as well as being less battery efficient.

take your time.. one step at a time. you'll get there eventually.
Lol so condescending.

It couldn't possibly be that a squashed, narrower screen makes videos look worse? Or that an overall smaller screen area is less immersive? Or that someone prefers the look of LCD in terms of colors and brightness? After all, Apple avoided OLED for years and years because of its various drawbacks.
 
No, because a valid assumption in the scenario posed is that storage and other options will be chosen the same on either the 8 or the X. So if I want a 64 GB 8, I'm also considering a 64 GB X - so apples to apples comparison. But either way, it is still $800 vs. $1000 or $1000 + . And $200 is 20% of $1000. If you can afford $800, you can afford $1000. It's not a big stretch, particularly if you pay over 24 months.

and if you only keep phones 1 year it's about few dollars more per month for 12 months; $41.63 vs $29.19 (8) or $33.34 (8 Plus) all 64gb. Under 41.5 cents per day more than the 8 or less over the plus.

Less than 2 coffees per week out.
 
How about the 7 plus and 7 plus over the 6s and 6s Plus, slightly faster internals. Let’s be honest Apple has been trolling all of us since the 7 and 7 plus we’re introduced with the same damn design. You can say if it’s not broken why fix it, but I say that those engineers and designers have been getting off easy with the stuff they have been putting out and glad they are stepping it up a bit this year.
It sounds like you care more about design than function, which is fine. But the function of each new release has been greatly improved. Camera(s), processors, etc. If that doesn't matter to you, then you probably only need to upgrade every 3 years or so.
 
I'm a professional that makes well into 6 figures. I don't HAVE to finance, but I did. Why -- it's smart. There's no interest. Better for me to hold onto the $1,000 and divvy it out monthly to Verizon, than pay it all up front. So the financing aspect doesn't play into this scenario. Moreover, your point doesn't address the issue that was raised - which is people trying to "justify" buying a "$1,000" phone. The issue is not financing, whether its an 8 or an X. The point is, in the grand scheme of things, there is little difference between an $800 phone and a $1000 phone, from a monetary perspective. $200 is negligible at that price point. There is nothing magical about $1000 that makes someone need to justify that over justifying spending $800 on a phone (its both a decent chunk of change).

I just cant help but feel if that were the issue, we would not be having this conversation.

Making six figures also means you should know that we want to maximize our deductions for the year. Financing a phone over time is not a smart deduction for someone making "six figures". We need all the deductions we can find. Ill take the $1k up front vs over time. Correct me if Im wrong.
 
I just cant help but feel if that were the issue, we would not be having this conversation.

Making six figures also means you should know that we want to maximize our deductions for the year. Financing a phone over time is not a smart deduction for someone making "six figures". We need all the deductions we can find. Ill take the $1k up front vs over time. Correct me if Im wrong.

Without becoming financial discussion,you can also deduct finance payments made; or someone who is is a business owner/self employed and already has a lot of deductions (like renting, getting a mortgage, etc. you need to show SOME income still)
 
I just cant help but feel if that were the issue, we would not be having this conversation.

Making six figures also means you should know that we want to maximize our deductions for the year. Financing a phone over time is not a smart deduction for someone making "six figures". We need all the deductions we can find. Ill take the $1k up front vs over time. Correct me if Im wrong.

I'm not a tax lawyer, so I don't know what deduction there would be for buying a phone as an individual (I'd be surprised if there is one). And then, even if you could so deduct, you would have to compare the amount of the deduction (reduction in overall tax bill from the $1,000 purchase) vs. the present value of the money you have by not laying it out all at once. I'm not smart enough to figure that all out, but I can't see the $1,000 purchase really significantly changing the ultimate tax deductions you get that tax year (its not like $1,000 would come off your bottom-line on what you owe for taxes that year).
 
This thread is not about education, it’s about you feeling good about your return. People keep saying what is so good about the X over the 8 and 8 plus. How about we ask what is so good about the 8 and 8 plus over the 7 and 7 plus. Uh wireless charging, which is a feature that really makes no sense because the charging pad is still connected to a plug. How about the 7 plus and 7 plus over the 6s and 6s Plus, slightly faster internals. Let’s be honest Apple has been trolling all of us since the 7 and 7 plus we’re introduced with the same damn design. You can say if it’s not broken why fix it, but I say that those engineers and designers have been getting off easy with the stuff they have been putting out and glad they are stepping it up a bit this year.

Right, the X was only a year in the making. :rolleyes:
 
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