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That would be ridiculous and no one would be able to reach the top of the phone; try reaching above the earpeice to the top left (if right handed) on your Plus holding the phone normally; unless you're Shaq maybe. I have large hands and really awkwardly stretching I can hit the carrier name with my right thumb on the Plus as is.

They may do it with an X Plus type phone, but really you're approaching an ipad mini as the Plus is 6.5" diagonal (if all screen).

And truthfully Apple is really unlikely to keep that old aspect ratio if the smaller X is this new ratio. So to get as wide as the current Plus the new X Plus device would need to be taller than the current Plus to keep the new aspect ratio. It would be near totally unusable 1 handed.

It would be basically a Samsung Note but iPhone version. If they made an edge to edge display phone. With that size screen, and let’s say a stylus style pen. You mean you wouldn’t jump on that? And don’t say no, cause I know you would be full of it at that point. lol
 
Actually, this is an incorrect premise. Because it is not a zero sum game -- in other words, it is improper to assume it is $0.00 vs. $1,000.00. Because the issue is you are getting a phone -but which model? So if you choose the iPhone 8/plus, you are spending about $800.00. So the comparison is not $0 to $1,000, the comparison is $800 to $1,000. Therefore, the justification would relate ONLY for spending $200 MORE than they otherwise would have -- not for spending $1,000.00 on a phone (they are at least spending $800, no matter what). And the difference between $800 and $1,000 is trivial in the long run. (Throws mic down).
What are you smoking. Apple decided $200 is a big enough difference that they released the 5th gen iPad at almost $200 below the normal asking price.

Not sure why you’re dropping the mic, because that analogy has no basis. Numbers are infinite so you’d keep doing that forever.
 
It would be basically a Samsung Note but iPhone version. If they made an edge to edge display phone. With that size screen, and let’s say a stylus style pen. You mean you wouldn’t jump on that? And don’t say no, cause I know you would be full of it at that point. lol
No, I wouldn't. A phone that big is ridiculous. It's not a phone anymore, it's a tablet for your pocket (large pockets at that). I've got an iPad Pro, that's great for iPad Pro stuff. I've got a laptop, that's great for laptop stuff. I've got a TV, that's great for TV stuff. All my phone needs to be is a phone, just a nice, comfortable, hand-sized phone that doesn't need to pretend to be something it isn't, or make up for any personal inadequacies.
 
I’ve had 6 plus and 6s plus and both times returned it as didn’t like the size. Stuck with the normal ones since, most recent being 7. Brought x on day of launch. Set it up today. My thoughts are:

+ love face id despite being extremely critical of the concept of it but having used it, I’d take it over Touch ID anyway, something I never thought I’d say.

+ screen quality is amazing and sharp and makes my 7 look washed out and blurry.

+ the size of things on the display (such as pics, text etc) is a fairly good sweet spot, slightly bigger then normal but slightly smaller then plus.

+ swiping to go home is easier then pressing a home button.

+ Tap to wake is brilliant, no idea why they didn’t put that in iphone 8 (a monkey could tell you it’s easier tapping anywhere on the screen instead of pressing a dedicated buttton). So home button is not a great excuse to not have it.

However, despite all those great pluses, some big negatives which may lead to me returning it.

- just like I thought, I hate the notch. It is plain ugly and you loose info like batt %, whether bt is on or not etc. Also loose bits of video and pics.

- I really don’t like the aspect ratio. It stands out especially on white backgrounds and just looks odd, way too narrow and tall, completely out of proportion for my liking. Also means that when watching video or pics, assuming you want to avoid the notch and don’t go full screen, the media only ends up being slightly bigger then the normal 7. The regular iPhones simply have a much more natural ratio.

- I don’t like the curves in the screen, much prefer the straight finish of regular iPhone screens.

- it’s actually almost as difficult to use as the plus anyway in terms of reaching the top, without having reach ability to compensate.
 
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No, I wouldn't. A phone that big is ridiculous. It's not a phone anymore, it's a tablet for your pocket (large pockets at that). I've got an iPad Pro, that's great for iPad Pro stuff. I've got a laptop, that's great for laptop stuff. I've got a TV, that's great for TV stuff. All my phone needs to be is a phone, just a nice, comfortable, hand-sized phone that doesn't need to pretend to be something it isn't, or make up for any personal inadequacies.
But you miss my point. Apple should let the consumers decide. There are millions of ppl that like carrying around bigger devices. And would jump at a phone that size.
 
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What are you smoking. Apple decided $200 is a big enough difference that they released the 5th gen iPad at almost $200 below the normal asking price.

Not sure why you’re dropping the mic, because that analogy has no basis. Numbers are infinite so you’d keep doing that forever.
That still doesn’t mean it’s a $1000 vs $0.00 proposition. So it’s a $200 justification, whether that is big or small in your mind.
 
I just cant help but feel if that were the issue, we would not be having this conversation.

Making six figures also means you should know that we want to maximize our deductions for the year. Financing a phone over time is not a smart deduction for someone making "six figures". We need all the deductions we can find. Ill take the $1k up front vs over time. Correct me if Im wrong.

I am a professional who is incorporated (pro corp) and can deduct financing payments from business income. My X is not financed, but my business has financed other things where it makes sense (ie 0% financing...I’d rather make even 1-2% on cash in a bank account while I can).
 
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But you miss my point. Apple should let the consumers decide. There are millions of ppl that like carrying around bigger devices. And would jump at a phone that size.

I think you are probably right and it will be released next year. Consider what the lineup will be next year. Possibly they will discount the 8 and/or 8 plus discount the 2017 X, have a new X And have an X plus. Unless they can somehow lower the cost and then they may discontinue the 2017 X.
 
I was cool, calm, and "Collected" but my horse ran 2nd. Damn it, Gun Runner. I didn't expect to win anyway. In a way, I'm glad I lost. Rather lose $100 on a bet than spend a $1100 for a phone. That $50 extra on top of your phone bill will pile up after awhile like an avalanche.

I guess no Eks for me! If the inventory seems good, maybe I can wait for a killer Black Friday or whatever promo these carriers will offer for the Holidays. I will cancel my Best Buy pre-order for a silver tomorrow when I have time. Front camera on the 8/8 Plus and X are poor in low light as seen from SuperSaf.

The X reminds of the iPhone 2G. Seems like a new revolution but not really the best in any area. Its best features are old features they copied from others. Only Face ID and Animoji are its unique features from the rest. I'm content using an unlocked AT&T iPhone SE as my daily driver. I want to prolong my LG phones longer. SE is the work phone. High SAR but gets the job done.
 
Well maybe next year Apple will come out with the IPhone XS and a newer version the XL for people who like big phones, get it the XL. Lol. The XS can be this years successor and the XL can be a 6.2 to 3 inch phone with a slimmer notch to allow for more viewing area. They can also release a “feature”, that allows a black bar that runs along the notch to make it invisible when playing video for those who are bothered by it. They can really put that feature out now as the oled screen gets super dark and make the notch invisible. Right now I’m using Tapatalk to view this forum and it’s not optimized and the top and bottom are black and the notch is pretty much gone.
 
I think you are probably right and it will be released next year. Consider what the lineup will be next year. Possibly they will discount the 8 and/or 8 plus discount the 2017 X, have a new X And have an X plus. Unless they can somehow lower the cost and then they may discontinue the 2017 X.
Speaking of the 8 plus. I was thinking of returning my X, and getting an 8 plus and an Apple Watch. For the same price I purchased the 256 GB X model. I can get an 8 plus 64GB, and Apple Watch.
 
Speaking of the 8 plus. I was thinking of returning my X, and getting an 8 plus and an Apple Watch. For the same price I purchased the 256 GB X model. I can get an 8 plus 64GB, and Apple Watch.

Cool..? As long as 64gb meets your needs and you like the 8 plus go for it. Can’t go wrong.
 
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Sorry, I consider the 8 plus a mistake phone or an ,”Oops I did it again”, phone o”in the words of Britney. Sorry like many others I got tired of those damn huge bezels and huge clunky phone. Is it perfect, no and nothing is but suggesting the the 8 plus is a better choice is crazy. No way in hell is it. I would rather you try and Android than get a phone that has had the same boring design for the last 4 years.
Seriously? Why would you tell someone to go to Android just because YOU don't like HIS phone choice? Not everyone hates the 8 Plus design. If that phone works for him, then that's cool.

Chill out. It's a phone, not a religion.
 
When I was directly comparing my 7 (non plus) to my X last night in my dimly lit living room, I also thought the 7 was quite a bit brighter than the X. Then I did it again this morning in a brightly lit room, the X actually got a bit brighter than the 7. I’m assuming the X has an auto brightness limiter, not able to access max brightness during low light condition. I just did it again just now and the X is dimmer at manual max setting compared to the 7. I posted a picture of the X against the 7 and galaxy S8+ this morning. Search my post if you’re interested to see.

Also, turning off True Tone, the X is actually cooler than my 7. I’m used to True Tone from using iPad Pro so I like leaving it on.
 
When I was directly comparing my 7 (non plus) to my X last night in my dimly lit living room, I also thought the 7 was quite a bit brighter than the X. Then I did it again this morning in a brightly lit room, the X actually got a bit brighter than the 7. I’m assuming the X has an auto brightness limiter, not able to access max brightness during low light condition. I just did it again just now and the X is dimmer at manual max setting compared to the 7. I posted a picture of the X against the 7 and galaxy S8+ this morning. Search my post if you’re interested to see.

Also, turning off True Tone, the X is actually cooler than my 7. I’m used to True Tone from using iPad Pro so I like leaving it on.
You should turn the auto brightness off on the X in order to see the real cap of its Brightness. It’s under Settings/General/Accessibility/Display Accommodations. The X screen is light years ahead of any previous iPhone on every single level.
 
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It would be basically a Samsung Note but iPhone version. If they made an edge to edge display phone. With that size screen, and let’s say a stylus style pen. You mean you wouldn’t jump on that? And don’t say no, cause I know you would be full of it at that point. lol

No, I wouldn't. A phone that big is ridiculous. It's not a phone anymore, it's a tablet for your pocket (large pockets at that). I've got an iPad Pro, that's great for iPad Pro stuff. I've got a laptop, that's great for laptop stuff. I've got a TV, that's great for TV stuff. All my phone needs to be is a phone, just a nice, comfortable, hand-sized phone that doesn't need to pretend to be something it isn't, or make up for any personal inadequacies.

Sorry but no is the truth. The Plus is the biggest device I'd want.

I agree with the above, at some point it becomes a tablet where you cant use it 1 handed.

In the current 19.5:9 aspect ratio a screen as wide as the current Plus would be crazy tall while keeping the screen wide. Likely covering the whole front of the current Plus size device tall, just remove the side bezels from the overall device size.

It would be impossible to reach the top, especially top left to use the back arrow or bread crumbs without 2 hands. And crazy awkward to use.

Something like this this site had an article on last month https://www.macrumors.com/2017/10/04/iphone-x-plus-rendering/

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Basically a current Plus sized device minus the side bezels of overall width. Try reaching the top left corner of your Plus front glass with your thumb holding it like normal use; and good luck. Again, I have large hands and hitting the carrier logo on the current Plus is a big stretch;another .5 inch or so diagonal would be impossible 1 handed for most to get to.
 
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You should turn the auto brightness off on the X in order to see the real cap of its Brightness. It’s under Settings/General/Accessibility/Display Accommodations. The X screen is light years ahead of any previous iPhone on every single level.
Ah that’s where it is. It used to be right under display setting, the auto brightness. Never looked into it since 11. Auto had always worked well for me on iPhones so I never fiddled with display brightness much.

Why is it moved way in accessibility :confused: (rhetorical question).
 
Seriously? Why would you tell someone to go to Android just because YOU don't like HIS phone choice? Not everyone hates the 8 Plus design. If that phone works for him, then that's cool.

Chill out. It's a phone, not a religion.

It’s funny you say that, me being someone that frequently goes between iOS and Android and enjoy both and don’t have any undying allegiance to either. My thing is this, the Note 8 offers a very similar design to the IPhone X without the notch in a bigger form factor. So if the X is too small for some or the notch is to off putting why not try something new. And I don’t care what phone someone picks, but just feel like the 8 and 8 plus is a waste. If they already have a 6 plus or 7 plus stay with that, but if they want something new they then go all out.
 
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Exactly my point. 1125p screen is just odd resolution. 1080, 1440 and 2160 (4k) is the industry standard (IMO). No camera records in 1125p, so no matter what content you're watching, it wouldn't perfectly fit the entire screen.

they just done a rush job and knew everyone would buy simple ass(purposely) that...
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Why is it so Important for many people here, to announce that they are returning an item and why? Is the OP and others like him seeking permission or approval? You don't need our permission nor our approval. Really narcissistic.
This is a forum correct?
 
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Wife got the X and I️ have the 7+ almost ended up giving her my 7 + and take the X but felt guilty.

To be honest the screen was taller with the notch but narrower, and when comparing a YouTube video stretched and native. The + screen wins for me, and I don’t know how I feel about the rounded edges also.
 
BTW I found it funny that one of the iPhone X function that I am really liking was in my Samsung Galaxy S2 about 5 years ago: The phone would remain unlocked while I was looking at the screen. The iPhone X implementation feels much more well done and robust of course (5 years of tech evolution along with a super - ambitious - flagship launch).
I have been loving my iPhones for the last three years, but I realized this feature in my last Samsung was so useful. No more having to change the screen lock timeout when reading long text articles etc.

It would be nice to see and experience a feature launch war between Apple and Samsung in the next few years, the phones would become more and more capable pretty quickly.

About the current topic - I can see how some people may not like X after a 7/8+, because of screen size differences. I think Apple didn't really expect/intend X to have so much demand and people switching from 7/8+. They probably expected the higher price to result in lower demand, and only hardcore early adapters to really go for X who would be more forgiving with the (not very major IMO) screen size/feature downgrades.
It does look like they most likely expected 8/8+ to sell much better than they did. There were reports of 8/8+ manufacture orders being cut by half - I guess Apple was caught by surprise themselves.

not necessarily TouchID vs FaceID.. rather, the sensors used for both..

a couple of examples:

on the X, it suppresses audio alerts if you're looking at it.. (like- the phone won't ring loud if it knows you're using the phone)

the phone won't sleep while you're reading since it knows you're looking at it.

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i believe these types of context aware scenarios will become even more beneficial as time goes on.. (for example, text may scroll automatically when it sees you nearing the bottom of the screen)..

with touchID sensor, it's a one trick pony that does exactly one thing.. reads a fingerprint.. the trueDepth sensor system has an incredible amount of usages down the road.
 
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