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Review: Two Weeks With the Apple Vision Pro
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The world is full of people who to them 4 grand for the VP to is like 500 for the Quest 3 to others. The world is similarly full of people who regularly fly first class. Heck, if people who regularly go to Starbucks skipped it for a year, they would be most of the way towards a VP.
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Thanks for those who pointed out zeiss link to test our prescriptions with before even considering ordering a AVP. This article just appeared today with more info: https://appleinsider.com/articles/2...sion-pro-zeiss-optical-inserts?utm_medium=rss
I think Apple has completely missed the boat on this.It's amazing this isn't better than it is. All the money thrown at this project, and it's basically just VR like we've had for a decade with better graphics. Feels like when Tesla released FSD back in 2016 or whatever. We're still a longggg way from real world AR.
To look at this optimistically, maybe having this product out in the world will drive developers to help create the UI and experiences we're ultimately going to need. Give people years to figure this stuff out. But, on the other hand, the actual mass adoption of AR is going be with lightweight glasses, with few similiarities to the Vision Pro except having a display in your field of view.
The whole thing is disappointing, and I really hope there's another team at Apple with a different vision that's focused on more of what eventual AR will look like (a la a much more advanced Google Glass). We need lightweight frames with a HUD style display overlay that can add to our real world. Notifications that pop up in your field of view rather than on your phone, avatars/filters on people you encounter, etc.
To look at this optimistically, maybe having this product out in the world will drive developers to help create the UI and experiences we're ultimately going to need. Give people years to figure this stuff out. But, on the other hand, the actual mass adoption of AR is going be with lightweight glasses, with few similiarities to the Vision Pro except having a display in your field of view.
The whole thing is disappointing, and I really hope there's another team at Apple with a different vision that's focused on more of what eventual AR will look like (a la a much more advanced Google Glass). We need lightweight frames with a HUD style display overlay that can add to our real world. Notifications that pop up in your field of view rather than on your phone, avatars/filters on people you encounter, etc.
So basically this won't work for my prescription... not that it makes it useless entirely or for all time. It just narrows the current market and presents some obstacles to overcome down the road.
AR/VR/MR needs to reach a point where it can be sandwiched into any prescription lens. That's the level of convenience it needs for widespread adoption.
But why would they get it? Who wants to strap a massive screen on your face you can only stand to wear for an hour?
Outside of escapism for being on airplane, which is a cramped and generally unpleasant experience you have to tolerate a few hours, what's the use case? Maybe if you're into VR gaming?...which not many are, and Apple doesn't seem interested in?
Again, don't want to say they shouldn't be investing in wearable displays and UIs...that's definitely where we're headed, but this is just soooo primitive compared to what will be needed for mass adoption.
Again, don't want to say they shouldn't be investing in wearable displays and UIs...that's definitely where we're headed, but this is just soooo primitive compared to what will be needed for mass adoption.
If that were true, the product category wouldn’t exist.
Is it a niche market today? Yes. But people are still going to buy it.
Why would someone pay more than the cost of the VP, in many cases double the price of the VP, for a first class or other premium airline seat, a ticket which lasts less than a day.
Because they want to and the cost isn't an obstacle.
But why would they want to I guess is the question?
The airplane situation makes sense to me, although I'd rather have over the ear or in ear active noise cancellation audio...but otherwise I just don't see it.
Eight to ten breaks a day? Oh, WFH, got it.
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Because they want to. Because they find it enjoyable enough to buy. Just because you don't see a reason to buy VP doesn't mean other people, people where the cost isn't an obstacle, don't as well. I just compared prices of a US to London Delta flight. I would take Business Class and a VP over First Class and I'd probably still be saving money.
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Regarding the standby mode draining the battery. I have normally just left my AVP plugged in overnight, and thus don’t have any problem with this. But, yesterday, I stopped using my AVP at 2 pm, and decided to unplug the battery, and left it overnight. This morning, at 11 am, the AVP still had 90% charge.
How many people buy a product based on whether or not it will gain “mass adoption?” Seems to me, there are actually very few products that ever achieve mass adoption. Most products today are made to fit niche needs.
But more importantly, I didn’t buy the AVP because it may or may not achieve mass adoption. I bought it because is serves my needs. Period.
And it's common for people get eye strain when wearing them. Just because something's been about for years doesn't mean it's not a good idea to spent extended periods wearing said thing.
Agree that the AVP is going to be a niche product
The comments about "mass adoption" are because some are, somewhat laughably, comparing this to the iPhone and the trajectory it went on -- which is rather inaccurate and there really is no comparison between the situations.
Additionally, Apple themselves seem to have poured a TON of resources into AVP, so they are making a big bet here.
They don't tend to do that for things that they think/hope will only end up being "niche"
like most Apple devices they tend to consume more power in standby when new due to housekeeping tasks. 2 weeks later i get 3 or 4 % over night.
So show us the studies or the verified concerns you’re raising. I haven’t experienced a moment of eye-strain using the AVP. So, sure, there may be a concern, I don’t know…but I also haven’t seen the evidence. I’d also expect Apple to be warning us about extended use if this were a thing.
The most often I’ve seen comments comparing it to the iPhone are detractors saying it will never sell as well as the iPhone. I’ve certainly never made any such comparison. The idea that Apple will only ever release products based on whether or not it sells as well as the iPhone is a strange idea.
I’d guess the Vision Pro will sell as well as MacBook Pros within 3-5 years.
True besides cost (a factor that makes it currently out of my budget given it takes nearly months pension as former state employee to buy and not gonna use credit) the social issues for people who have families in my case my wife at home. We agree this tech is not for our setup. And to add a bit of humor to the idea this tech cannot really improve real human relationships I share this video that just came up for your enjoyment LOL
I returned mine. Thank you MacRumors for the article about the 2 week return policy. While the product is a heck of a lot of fun, I realized I would not use it enough to justify the cost. I watched a feature movie in 3D, and felt like I had to take a break in the middle. It's just a little intense for long sessions. And I don't use a Mac for work, so don't really have a need to mirror a Mac. Checking mail and texts on it was nice, browsing the web was a little tedious. Much easier on my laptop. I'm sure there will be cool immersive content and games coming. But for me, it's a really expensive, klunky-to-use entertainment product. I'll continue to relax using an old-fasioned big screen, for now. I will buy a future version, I'm sure.
Today marks the two-week anniversary of the Apple Vision Pro launch, and the last day for returns for those who purchased on release day. With plenty of stories going around from those who decided not to keep the $3,500 device, MacRumors videographer Dan Barbera thought he'd share some of the reasons why he'll be keeping his headset.
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We need to have a few Vision Pro headsets on hand to write about them here at MacRumors, so that's one of the primary reasons that Dan will be keeping his. Apple is already working on visionOS 2, and we're interested in seeing what changes and updates are in store. We're also getting new apps on a regular basis, all of which make the Vision Pro a more appealing device.
The Vision Pro is the best way to be immersed in a movie, especially 3D movies, and that's another key reason why Dan won't be bringing his back to the Apple Store. The Cinema Environment that shuts out the world is hard to beat because it's basically your own personal movie theater.
Working on the Vision Pro needs some improvement, perhaps with support for multiple Mac displays, but it's useful when traveling with a laptop. It would also be nice to be able to use a mouse, but Magic Keyboard and Trackpad input work well enough.
There are some downsides to the Vision Pro. It's hard to wear for more than about an hour, the battery life is awful, and it doesn't hold a charge at all when not in use. Touch typing with the air keyboard is a poor experience, Personas need a lot of work to be less creepy, there still aren't a whole lot of groundbreaking app experiences, and Guest Mode is awful, so it is fully understandable why we're hearing a lot of return stories.
Make sure to watch Dan's full video to get his thoughts on the Vision Pro after two weeks, and let us know if you kept or returned your Vision Pro in the comments below.
Article Link: Review: Two Weeks With the Apple Vision Pro
What planet do you live on? Eyestrain is a frequent complaint about the AVP. Apple does advise to take breaks.
I agree the VP as currently implemented is a niche product. But as for use case, mine is finally being able to blow up PDF files large enough to read comfortably. With my eyesight, they are too small on the iPad or laptops, and I find it uncomfortable to sit at a desk for too long. Also, with the VP, I should be able to open multiple PDFs and other documents at once, and have them all in my view at once for easily comparing them to each other.
At current price, the VP is too expensive to make it worth it for me to buy for this use. But if it comes down in price a bit, and if it is comfortable enough to wear, then I can see myself getting a VP instead of an iPad a few years down the line. Oh, and I'm also looking forward to seeing how Live Captions work on the VP. If that works well enough, it may actually motivate me to interact more with people, as I wouldn't have to strain to hear what they said and constantly ask them to repeat themselves. I'll be like, oh I have a visitor, let me put on my VP!
The thing is even that is MacBook money. And a laptop is a hell of a lot more versatile.