cant you just buy a 4k tv theater projector for $3500 and a 300 inch projector screen and get a much better experience watching movies ?? then keeping the Apple Vision Pro which will have a dated non upgradable CPU when the 2 NM M5 comes out?
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Review: Two Weeks With the Apple Vision Pro
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You paid $3500 for a device and you can only use it for 60-90 minutes?
Wow.
Wow.
Here’s how that merry go round happens:
“It isn’t comfortable to wear more than about an hour.”
- That’s okay! No one is going to want to use it for longer than that anyway without a break.
Meanwhile:
- I can’t wait to watch movies in this!
“But what about the limited battery life? Didn’t you say no one was going to use it for longer than at hour or so?”
-Oh!! It’s all negativity with you! All you want to do is bash Apple and root for the Vision Pro to fail!!
Etc.
No. Simply because I automagically ignore anything related to Meta/Facebook.
Just saw a report yesterday how Apple has bought more AI companies than everyone else in the last year, 30 companies to be exact. Apple is rarely first in anything, but prefer to do things their own way at their own pace. When asked about Apple being behind, Johny Srouji and John Ternus merely laughed and said, wait.
As for the tech not being there, what they do have there is quite impressive. Yes, there will still be several versions of Vision whatever (Pro, Air, Jr., just Vision, Lite) before we can say the technology is there. This is a proof of concept just like the original iPhone was. Don’t expect Apple to give up on it like Google did. Google has a habit of canceling everything without giving things a chance. The list of that is quite long. Apple doesn’t do that.
As the saying goes, you have to release something sometime. The reason for this particular release is to get customer feedback, so Apple will know what features to focus on and what isn’t being used. They also need to start recovering some of the 10+ years of R&D put into this thing. What this device does is to give us a glimpse into what future computing will be like. Now that we’ve seen this, we can imagine what it would be like with this type of environment once these goggles are shrunk to the size of a pair of glasses, and someday contacts or brain implants. However it works out, this is just a start. Once you’ve tried this, you can easily picture how some day a pair of glasses could replace your Mac, your iPhone, your iPad, and Apple TV. Apple’s not going to abandon this. If they do, they’d be idiots, leaving the field wide open for someone else to steal what they have. The first company to figure all of this out will control the next generation of computers. I’d rather it be Apple than Meta.
People didn’t know what to make of the Apple Watch, either, Tim Cook’s first solo venture without Jobs. Apple didn’t even know what it had and took a few iterations before they figured out their focus would be on health and notifications. Now it’s the best selling watch period, and that includes mechanical watches.
As far as I know the Vision's Pro maximum fps is 90-100Hz.
That is not so good for the eyes of the owner - I wouldn't even consider to buy such a thing.
Even the Meta Quest 3 is able to deal 120Hz.
That is not so good for the eyes of the owner - I wouldn't even consider to buy such a thing.
Even the Meta Quest 3 is able to deal 120Hz.
These Apple Vision Pro buyers are returning their headsets — and this is why
Some Apple Vision Pro customers say the much-hyped headset's clunky design, blurry vision, and lack of use cases just don't justify the $3,500 price.
www.businessinsider.com
You’re not wrong. This post reminded me of the movie sunshine where they had the therapy room or “earth room”. The doctor would prescribe them time to go into a simulated environment to relax and de-stress. I could imagine this being a real thing in the future
The idea is that the vision pro allows this in scenarios where a projector (however portable) and a giant screen simply aren't feasible. For example, on board a plane, when you are outside at a cafe or library, in a hotel room. Also, watching content is simply one of the vision pro's many use cases, whereas for the projector screen, it's literally dead weight when you aren't using it for said purpose.
It's like saying - why buy a laptop when a desktop offers better bang for the buck? Well, I can't bring around a desktop with me like I can a laptop, and in fact, I have both (an iMac and a MBA). So they aren't necessarily mutually exclusive either.
It's really about having the right tool for the job.
As he says in the video, "the biggest reason why I can't give up on it is because it is easily the best AR/VR experience that I have ever had." Seriously, just watch the video.
Am i the only one that just…doesn’t get the criticism of that? Like at all? Maybe culturally it’s weird to wear something on your face, but the assumption is people that buy this will wear it quite a bit when lounging around the house. When working. Doing anything really. In practice, this is no different than seeing a dad looking at his phone while his kids are playing and then holding it up to record them when he wants to record a memory. It’s the same exact thing. Except now he doesn’t have to hold anything. It’s recording and his hands are free and he can just kind of live in the moment with them, which seems even less distracting than holding up a phone doesn’t it? He probably feels more immersed and with them using the headset than even a phone to record them because hes just looking at them with his normal vision vs holding up a phone and recording them and looking through a small screen
This just reminds me of every single new thing we’ve seen introduced. AirPods were qtips hanging out your ears and looked weird and we had hundred reply threads on here of people saying they wouldn’t b caught dead wearin them in public. Now they’re normal.
Hell, I remember facetime being weird when it came out. Wasn’t it a cnet reviewer that first said “it’s a neat technology, but it’s awkward staring at people on your phone like this. I’d rather just A phone call”. It wasn’t normal. Now it is.
When prices come down, weight comes down, overall size comes down, battery life is finally good and these things are normal to wear and see people wearing, you really think we’re going to be looking back on the guy at the birthday party wearing his totally ”normal” headset and think anything of it? No. We’re gonna see it and be like “oh yeah. hes wearing his headset. And? So? What’s the big deal? Everybody wears one. He was probably taking a call or something and put it on”
Will be fun to check in 5-7 years From now
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I don't disagree with you about the quality of the passthrough (though I don't believe either of us has tried it). I just don't think it's relevant to a discussion about viewing media on the Vision Pro. It would be like me repeatedly pointing out the poor quality of the camera in the Studio Display when we were having a discussion on how good the monitor is for editing photos. I don't care if people thought the camera built into the studio display was as good as their 35mm full-frame camera with a prime lens.
It would be relevant if we were discussing how good the Vision Pro was for displaying recipes and timers while cooking, or something like that, because poor passthrough quality makes cooking more difficult.
Lots of comments on here from folks who’ve never actually used AVP and make conclusions based on what they’ve heard or on specs. Decided NOT to return mine for several reasons:
- video pass through and overall video quality is way beyond competition. Watching content both 2D and especially 3D is mind blowing. There’s nothing like it.
- watching homemade spatial videos made on iPhone 15 pro of family memories. They feel like a window back in time and with little kids that are growing up quick these memories are priceless. Side note- I have not and do not plan to use AVP camera functions. Too ridiculous looking and invasive.
- while it is heavy and cumbersome I’ve noticed over the last two weeks my neck is actually adjusting to the weight. I can sit through 2–4 hours without any neck strain now and have learned how to adjust the headset to distribute the weight across my head and face if things get uncomfortable.
- the apps are not there yet but there is so much potential for productivity, creativity and immersive entertainment. Theres a lot of critique of what’s out now and a lot of devs only got their hands on the hardware two weeks ago. It will be interesting to see what the apps and OS look like 6-12 months from now.
- I’ve found it’s great for consuming content and keeping secondary apps running alongside that I occasionally glance at e.g. watching a movie and keeping baby monitor video feed on the side running or iMessage chat going.
- there’s something amazing about arranging apps in space to fit your workflow that doesn’t come out in the reviews or video captures that you see. Unless you really try it out and integrate your Apple services, it’s hard to appreciate the potential.
Having used it pretty heavily for the last two weeks I can say the while it’s not for everyone yet it does have the potential and feels like there's a real future for the product.
- video pass through and overall video quality is way beyond competition. Watching content both 2D and especially 3D is mind blowing. There’s nothing like it.
- watching homemade spatial videos made on iPhone 15 pro of family memories. They feel like a window back in time and with little kids that are growing up quick these memories are priceless. Side note- I have not and do not plan to use AVP camera functions. Too ridiculous looking and invasive.
- while it is heavy and cumbersome I’ve noticed over the last two weeks my neck is actually adjusting to the weight. I can sit through 2–4 hours without any neck strain now and have learned how to adjust the headset to distribute the weight across my head and face if things get uncomfortable.
- the apps are not there yet but there is so much potential for productivity, creativity and immersive entertainment. Theres a lot of critique of what’s out now and a lot of devs only got their hands on the hardware two weeks ago. It will be interesting to see what the apps and OS look like 6-12 months from now.
- I’ve found it’s great for consuming content and keeping secondary apps running alongside that I occasionally glance at e.g. watching a movie and keeping baby monitor video feed on the side running or iMessage chat going.
- there’s something amazing about arranging apps in space to fit your workflow that doesn’t come out in the reviews or video captures that you see. Unless you really try it out and integrate your Apple services, it’s hard to appreciate the potential.
Having used it pretty heavily for the last two weeks I can say the while it’s not for everyone yet it does have the potential and feels like there's a real future for the product.
A tiny screen and a rubbish battery ? Well in 10 generations apple has just about fixed one of those things !
Not true necessarily. I am sure she would/has/will wear it in the privacy of her own home, just like many other public figures and well-known performers who have and will. I know one myself, for example.Let’s just say the AVP form factor has a long way to go if someone like this is going to become a user..
(Please note her stylish Apple Watch however)
Kudos to MR and Dan, that’s a pretty nice and honest review, something that is not very common nowadays unfortunately!
Indeed, it may be hard for you to imagine; but these folks are just "normal" people too when away from the lights and cameras, and any of them who are curious about what AVP might offer will most certainly be trying them/using them in the privacy of their own homes.Or another…
Hard to imagine this Apple Watch customer with the scuba mask on (anywhere, let alone in public)
“There are some downsides to the Vision Pro. It's hard to wear for more than about an hour, the battery life is awful, and it doesn't hold a charge at all when not in use. Touch typing with the air keyboard is a poor experience, Personas need a lot of work to be less creepy, there still aren't a whole lot of groundbreaking app experiences, and Guest Mode is awful, so it is fully understandable why we're hearing a lot of return stories.”
Right, I’m sold
Right, I’m sold
Celebrities, behind closed doors, can and do enjoy trying out things like the AVP; their motivations are the same as any other person. You seem to be stuck on thinking only about their public sides.
Yeah, but do you think any of those celebs have several thousands posts on a tech rumors site? Heck, we may have some in our very presence, generously giving of their time to post among us plebeians and teach us what cool famous people are like.
Hey, it’s Keanu Reeves, using a VR headset to visualize motorcycles in his custom motorcycle shop. When I search for “coolest celebrities” in Google, he’s the first result!
We are already in a dystopian world where everyone spends their time staring at screens rather than interacting with each other. It has led to social and mental health problems galore. The AVP takes that situation, and makes it 100X worse by not only having you look at a screen, but wrapping your head with a screen.
The only saving grace to AVP is that it's so expensive and so uncomfortable that it dissuades people from buying it.
And no, I'm not any anti-technology luddite, I've been creating tech since 1985, and I own a pair of PSVR2 goggles for playing Gran Turismo 7 from time-to-time.
(Edit: fixing misspelling.)
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