iPod Ripping DVDs to 5G iPod (iPod Video): Steps That Work!

[clayj]

Personally i've been ripping dvds with mac the ripper first, just so i can archive the dvd, then i convert that dvd image to mpeg4 using handbrake. it doesn't really take that long to rip with mac the ripper and that way i have an image. handbrake can just extract it from the dvd itself but my guess is it will be slower.

Exactly so.

Also, my experience with Handbrake shows that there are more problems if you allow it to extract the DVD content from the DVD, rather than using Mac the Ripper for the intermediate step of transferring the DVD content to the HD.

 

[Sky Blue]

I just wanted to echo what asherman13 and Sky Blue said---it seems that if you "downgrade" your version of Handbrake it will recognize more DVDs. I downloaded version 0.6.2 and I'm having no trouble ripping Pulp Fiction now. It's even ripping at twice the rate it was on the most up-to-date version. Just thought some people might be wondering...

Downgrading did work for me on a few, but I reliased that the reason the majority of my DVDs weren't recognised was because my drive was set to region 2 and the DVDs were region 1.

 

[Loge]

All my DVDs are region 2 btw, but so far I am finding that the 0.7 beta 1 of handbrake is recognising more DVDs than the beta 3 (for example the BBC Jonathan Creek DVDs).

 

[mac_hine82]

This is a pain in the A**

When is Apple going to make it as easy to import a DVD as it is to do a CD. Come on Apple fight for us!

 

[clayj]

When is Apple going to make it as easy to import a DVD as it is to do a CD. Come on Apple fight for us!

They won't, and can't. Technically, ripping a DVD is a violation of the DMCA. It's illegal.

That said, there are ways to do it that comply with the spirit of the law, if not the letter of the law. This thread documents one of those ways.

 

[lopresmb]

I thought that it was "technically" illegal enen with personally owned CD's. It has just long been considered under the fair use policy.

--correct me if I am mistaken...

 

[madmaxmedia]

I thought that it was "technically" illegal enen with personally owned CD's. It has just long been considered under the fair use policy.

--correct me if I am mistaken...

It's not illegal in the USA, since there is no encryption being circumvented. That's why it's illegal to rip DVD's.

This is not something Apple can really fight, it's just the law. But what Apple can (and perhaps has tried) to do is approach the movie industry and try to make an agreement. They could offer pretty stringent DRM on ripped movies, and only say 320 x 240 H264 so the movie industry isn't worried about losing sales.

The DRM could lock movies to a single iPod/computer, and also have a time limit (say 30 days) to prevent people from renting and ripping. After the 30 days, you could perhaps stick the DVD in your computer to extend the time limit another 30 days.

I think this would actually be attractive to the movie industry, as it would encourage general consumers to use this option, vs. exploring illegal options that then give them unprotected and sharable rips in any kind of format (from straight DVD copies to high quality Divx/Xvid, etc.)

 

[freeny]

They won't, and can't. Technically, ripping a DVD is a violation of the DMCA. It's illegal.

That said, there are ways to do it that comply with the spirit of the law, if not the letter of the law. This thread documents one of those ways.

Clayj, Arent you being hippocritical? you have been posting on this subject for weeks telling everyone how to rip your dvds for the ipod which it technically "illegal" depending on how YOU interperated it.

You recently scolded someone for asking a question about Torrenting that may or may not be legal depending on how YOU interperated it. (thread has been pulled upon YOUR request). YOU interperated that subject as an illegal action without reading into the subject.

Here, YOU are interpreting personal dvd ripping as "LEGAL", so its okay?

I like you and your posts but im seeing a little bit of megalomania here. Is this fair?

 

[Chundles]

I thought that it was "technically" illegal enen with personally owned CD's. It has just long been considered under the fair use policy.

--correct me if I am mistaken...

No, you're right, well, in Australia you are.

Here it is illegal to rip a CD, no matter if you bought it or not, you are not allowed to take music from that CD and turn it into another format or make a new CD from the old one or anything along those lines.

I think the ARIA (money grubbing mongrels they are) have said that they won't prosecute people who have ripped their CD collection to their mp3 players as it probably does come under some "fair use" ideal.

As for movies, heeellll no. It's still technically illegal to record anything from the TV, let alone ripping DVD's to a smaller format.

 

[madmaxmedia]

Clayj, Arent you being hippocritical? you have been posting on this subject for weeks telling everyone how to rip your dvds for the ipod which it technically "illegal" depending on how YOU interperated it.

You recently scolded someone for asking a question about Torrenting that may or may not be legal depending on how YOU interperated it. (thread has been pulled upon YOUR request). YOU interperated that subject as an illegal action without reading into the subject.

Here, YOU are interpreting personal dvd ripping as "LEGAL", so its okay?

I like you and your posts but im seeing a little bit of megalomania here. Is this fair?

On a message board like this, it's probably not kosher to provide directions on anything illegal, period. So that goes for downloading copyright material on BitTorrent as well as ripping copyright DVD's.

Although it may not be illegal in all countries to rip DVD's. I seem to recall when I downloaded DVD Decrypter for Windows, there was a page stating that I needed to check to see if it was legal in my country (which of course it wasn't.)

 

[clayj]

Clayj, Arent you being hippocritical? you have been posting on this subject for weeks telling everyone how to rip your dvds for the ipod which it technically "illegal" depending on how YOU interperated it.

You recently scolded someone for asking a question about Torrenting that may or may not be legal depending on how YOU interperated it. (thread has been pulled upon YOUR request). YOU interperated that subject as an illegal action without reading into the subject.

Here, YOU are interpreting personal dvd ripping as "LEGAL", so its okay?

I like you and your posts but im seeing a little bit of megalomania here. Is this fair?

No, I don't feel I'm being hypocritical... ripping DVDs into MP4 files is technically illegal, but it still falls under the "fair use" doctrine and does not result in any monetary losses to the copyright holder. If I rip my DVD of Fight Club onto my iPod, that doesn't hurt 20th Century Fox.

Sharing movies, on the other hand, not only violates the letter of the law (copyright), but also the SPIRIT of it. If I rip Fight Club from my DVD into an MP4 file and then post it on BitTorrent or anywhere else where people can download it, THAT causes a monetary loss to 20th Century Fox.

I hope you can understand the difference here. Ripping does not hurt the copyright holder; redistributing does.

With respect to that other thread, the OP had explicitly asked me in a Private Message if I'd be willing to post movies I'd ripped from my DVDs on BitTorrent. That's why I came down on him so hard.

There's no megalomania here, and I certainly don't advocate anyone doing anything that will cause monetary loss to a copyright holder. Copyright law is well-established and I respect it; the provisions in DMCA which prevent us DVD owners from ripping DVDs for our own personal use are poorly written and I choose not to accept them... doing so causes no harm to anyone.

 

[madmaxmedia]

With respect to that other thread, the OP had explicitly asked me in a Private Message if I'd be willing to post movies I'd ripped from my DVDs on BitTorrent. That's why I came down on him so hard.

Yeah, that would seem pretty different situation...

BTW, can you? JK-

 

[freeny]

With respect to that other thread, the OP had explicitly asked me in a Private Message if I'd be willing to post movies I'd ripped from my DVDs on BitTorrent. That's why I came down on him so hard.

Not knowing that the OP had PM'd you certainly changes things and Im sorry. But taken at face value I couldnt help but be a little taken back.

Okay.....

NOW LET"S GO RIP SOME DVD"S!!

 

[vankras]

windows link

Unfortunately, although I was able to download the DVDx, it keeps saying that my DVD is over 2GB and refuses the DVD. has anyone seen this problem? know how to fix it?

 

[asherman13]

i'm pretty sure that the DMCA stipulates that it's only illegal to rip IF AND ONLY IF you're defeating an encoded lock on the DVD. that doesn't mean it's illegal if your program defeats it without your knowledge (i.e. handbrake), rather, it's illegal of you enable/command the program to defeat the encoding on the DVD.

i'm on my 25th movie

 

[clayj]

BTW, the new version of Handbrake (0.7.0) now includes an H.264 "Baseline" option that should work with Gen5 iPods. I am testing this option now and will report back when I have some numbers.

 

[asherman13]

BTW, the new version of Handbrake (0.7.0) now includes an H.264 "Baseline" option that should work with Gen5 iPods. I am testing this option now and will report back when I have some numbers.

i haven't downloaded it yet...any idea if it has g3 support?

EDIT fyi: the new version of Handbrake DOES NOT have g3 support, or at least it doesn't for me...if anybody gets it to work on a g3, let me know...

 

[neonart]

What kbps for high quality?

I've been trying different settings in Handbrake to get good movies out to TV. I'm not overly concerned on size. I tried 640*272 and 640*346 and both look great once sent to TV for wide screen. For 3x4 I'm doing 544*416.

As some site posted (can't remember which) as long as you stay at 230,400 pixels altogether or less, the iPod can handle it in mpeg-4 format.

My question is what is a good compression for good quality? I've done 768kbps and there is noticeable artifacts and graininess when seen on a computer. Apple says mpeg-4 can go to 2.5 mbps. Is there a setting any of you recommend?

The iPod works great as a "ultra-portable VCR" (or DVD player for you kids)! I love to have several movies loaded into it beforehand and whenever we want to see one then just grab the iPod and plug it to the nearest TV...

 

[bepster]

As some site posted (can't remember which) as long as you stay at 230,400 pixels altogether or less, the iPod can handle it in mpeg-4 format.

My question is what is a good compression for good quality? I've done 768kbps and there is noticeable artifacts and graininess when seen on a computer. Apple says mpeg-4 can go to 2.5 mbps. Is there a setting any of you recommend?

The iPod works great as a "ultra-portable VCR" (or DVD player for you kids)! I love to have several movies loaded into it beforehand and whenever we want to see one then just grab the iPod and plug it to the nearest TV...

good question, I chose 1200 and it works fine... but of course, it's all about the final file size, how much you want to sacrifice!

this thing about the "portable movie-player" is absolutly true, I love that!!

 

[madmaxmedia]

I think 1200 kbps is a good number to shoot for for good to very good quality.

Also, another equally worthwile option is to decrease resolution to say 480 x XXX, and use the 800 kbps bitrate. It will actually look much better, and sharpness should still be pretty good on most TV sets.

 

[nofxman64]

1. Download Mac the Ripper and Handbrake. (You'll have to Google for the current location of Mac the Ripper...)
Mac The Ripper is curently located at http://www.losprimates.net/mtr/

I have been ripping dvds straight using handbrake and they work fine. I have ripped alot of family guy episodes the only problem is I cant rip kill bill 2. If I use Mac The ripper first will that work?

 

[drater]

1. Download Mac the Ripper and Handbrake. (You'll have to Google for the current location of Mac the Ripper...)

Mac The Ripper is curently located at http://www.losprimates.net/mtr/

I have been ripping dvds straight using handbrake and they work fine. I have ripped alot of family guy episodes the only problem is I cant rip kill bill 2. If I use Mac The ripper first will that work?

It could work, just try it out and see. There were a couple videos I ran into a problem with ripping it with either handbrake and mactheripper. (ie. National Treasure)....if anyone figures out a solution I'd like to know as well.

 

[freeny]

It could work, just try it out and see. There were a couple videos I ran into a problem with ripping it with either handbrake and mactheripper. (ie. National Treasure)....if anyone figures out a solution I'd like to know as well.

I have had problems with "Eurotrip" and "Ice Age" using Handbrake. I would like to see if I have the same issues with the new release of 7.0

 

[tobefirst ⚽️]

I have had problems with "Eurotrip" and "Ice Age" using Handbrake. I would like to see if I have the same issues with the new release of 7.0

Ice Age was the first movie I ripped. Worked just fine after I figured out which audio track to use. I used the directors' cut one the first time.

 

[nofxman64]

The new version of Handbrake(7.0) works with kill bill 2