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Safari on macos 12 is so clean and functional
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Will the new Safari be back ported to Catalina?
It's annoying that Apple paired apps upgrades with the OS upgrades.
It's annoying that Apple paired apps upgrades with the OS upgrades.
I have really tried all day to like the new Safari tab and search bar arrangement, but I could not at ALL!
It is utterly annoying those continuous movement in the upper side of Safari and it is utterly annoying and confusing having to look not once, not twice, but 3 times before spotting the where my tabs have gone and where to point my mouse to close one tab hover on the active one to close it... disappointing. Why? I say WHY???
It is utterly annoying those continuous movement in the upper side of Safari and it is utterly annoying and confusing having to look not once, not twice, but 3 times before spotting the where my tabs have gone and where to point my mouse to close one tab hover on the active one to close it... disappointing. Why? I say WHY???
give it time; change often requires that, to adapt to the 'new'. this obviously isn't some 10-second decision, but made by a team, over time... and worked with until that team is happy. and (possibly) one day you will wake up and think "why hasn't it always been this way?"
This is change for the sake of change. Good user interfaces are boring, predictable, and functional. The address bar now slides around constantly and is in a different place each time. There is virtually no space to grab the title bar and reposition the window. All this to save, what, 20 or 30 vertical pixels? My external display is huge. My MacBook Pro's display is huge.
How is this functionally better than what came before? It looks nicer (to some; not to me); it is functionally worse.
haha, sure; apple designed this solely as 'change for the sake of change'... just as they design everything.
seriously, tho... the fact that you personally don't like it has nothing to do with apple's intent. you don't like it... and that's fine, but it's nothing more than that (and nothing less).
you're the one making the claim it's 'change for the sake of change'; is this based on some insider knowledge? or it is, simply, your feeling about it (which is fine, if you're willing to admit that).
all tech companies change up their apps, systems, etc... and can't accomodate everyone. i'm more inclined to believe that a corporation like apple makes decisions based on something other than "change for the sake of..."
Are you able to re-enable the tab bar? I use a large iMac so vertical space isn't scarce and I find the new design a bit cluttered. Plus, I usually keep a fair number of tabs, so I like additional horizontal space for web address names.
At least Firefox has a search/address bar. Floating the search/address bar to the right as you cycle through tabs or shifting the address/search bar all over the place is annoying. I keep having to drag the active tag to the far right. It's an almost unusable release. I think Keychain/Passwords in iCloud should become an API that is available to more than just certain apps and Safari, but to all developers. It seems like an option to have Passwords for anything else is better. It's a sad day when Microsoft's default browser, Edge is a far better option than what Apple can muster.
Extension buttons can be added directly back to the tool bar using the customize toolbar option. I predict a future extension that acts as a refresh button and I predict an extension button that acts as a search/address bar. This is absolutely the dumbest UI/UX changes I've seen in an app from Apple. But in case you're interested I have uploaded some captures for you.
I'm going to have to agree with @AVonGauss I've seen Apple make changes in the past, some of which have stuck around that didn't solve something that anyone asked to have solved. Including the total washing out of the MacOS UI so that it's now much harder to make out shortcuts on the sidebar in finder. What use to be high contrast and colorful UI elements that were really easy to see have all become greyscale. It's much more difficult to visually see at-a-glance.
I've mostly learned to live with many of the dumb and ugly UI/UX choices that Apple has made over the years, but they do sometimes make changes for the sake of presenting something new and at times calling it a revolution.
The search/address bar shifting around with the open tab is hard to follow. It doesn't follow a natural or intuitive work flow. We scan left to right, top to bottom. Our brains and eyes work best when we move through a workflow from a fixed point of reference. When the address search bar moves ever more to the right with every newly opened tab, you look down to do work and look up and your eyes default to the right. Lo and behold you go to change the address or see what the address of your site is and where has your address bar gone? Not up in front of your eyes, off out to the right, but not just off to the right at the top, but one of the fifteen or so open on the right.
It's not a good choice. And it doesn't even have to be a point of contention or an argument from Safari users on any forum because this software on a full version desktop can be easily coded to allow for a preference menu option to allow tabs to be inline, below, above the address/search bar. The search/address bar can be dedicated and fixed in the customize toolbar menu. There is no rational reason that flexibility in customization can't exist for the user. But to take away an established workflow to bring in a new UI at the expense of user' preferences is unnecessary really.
I put in a ticket in the feedback assistant. I hope many, many other users will do the same thing. Once upon a time Apple made exclamations about how MacOS was the most customizable desktop user experience on the consumer/commercial OS space and they use to make products that were pretty revolutionary. What I think would be a triumph for Apple today would be to herald in an age of customization for users in the desktop OS. The one thing that should set apart a full version OS and a mobile OS like iOS is the ability to fully use that desktop real estate to do much, much more.
There is space still do drag the safari window at the top. see the video
opinions, which is fine. just... opinions are not facts. also, who knows what will change between now and the official os 12 release?
also, which apple are we discussing? outside of some flirtation years ago with themes, apple has never been much for a 'customizable' anything.