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Burn in is a fact with oled which is word than back-light bleed.
A simple google search reveals this.
Well then the same illogical thinking applies to burn-in. And then back to preferences due to limitations in technology.
I'm waiting for my old 500mb 25 year old drives to crash. I keep them around as "collectors" items and they work.
Prove it.
I don't care what your optimization strategy is, my computer works fine for my use case.
Do you drive a nail through your hardware? I haven't rmad any computer hardware in 10 years or more, much less hdds. You can use whatever technology that makes you happy. The reasons for multiple tech is varied use cases. Ssds vs hard drives have pluses and minuses on each side. Pick your poison.
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Since it hasn't been announced we don't know, but hypothecations say some people with multiple issues with idevices will be doing even more complaining if there is pink screen, color shifting or burn in.
To put the headline into perspective and bring this thread back on track
https://9to5mac.com/2017/07/17/apple-post-steve-jobs/
Former Apple creative director Hugh Dubberly has suggested that Apple is in danger of being left behind by Samsung now that the company is in the post Steve Jobs era.
It’s not so much that Samsung has gotten better, but Apple has fundamentally changed. The pipeline that Steve [Jobs] started is over.
Dubberly has a perspective on both companies, having also worked as a member of Samsung’s global design advisory board …
His view was echoed by analysts cited by the WSJ, who suggested that the question of whether or not Apple will embed a Touch ID sensor into the display of the iPhone 8 is a crucial one – as the design alone will not be enough to outdo Samsung.
The Samsung Galaxy S8 is nudging the bar higher as Apple seeks to impress with its 10th anniversary iPhone this fall. For Apple to outdo Samsung on design, analysts said, it would need a new distinguishing feature, like a fingerprint sensor beneath the display rather than a physical home button.
The piece argues that the design lead Apple had over Samsung ended with the S8.
The Galaxy S8 grew longer, slimmer and dropped most of the frame surrounding the display, for a sleek design many in the tech industry contend has bested Apple Inc.’s iPhone—some would say for the first time.
It notes that Consumer Reports rated the S8 higher than the iPhone 7 in part for this reason – though this is, of course, comparing last year’s iPhone with this year’s Samsung flagship.
Design is said to be playing a far more important role in purchasing designs as technological developments have, for now at least, reached something of a plateau.
How a smartphone looks now accounts for about half a consumer’s purchase decision, with the assessment formed in roughly one second, according to Charles L. Mauro, president of MauroNewMedia, a product-design research firm that has done consulting work for Apple and Samsung. Mr. Mauro says peer-reviewed research reveals aesthetics matter much more than previously believed, as older surveys pegged looks as influencing only 7% of a phone purchase.
However, recent data suggests that the S8 picture may not be quite so rosy as the Samsung-focused piece suggests. Analysts recently estimated that sales of this year’s flagship Samsung smartphone are actually lower than last year’s S7 at the same point in time. A report today suggested that Samsung may have more time to ramp up sales, though, as mass production of the iPhone 8 may not hit its stride until November.
https://9to5mac.com/2017/07/17/apple-post-steve-jobs/
Former Apple creative director Hugh Dubberly has suggested that Apple is in danger of being left behind by Samsung now that the company is in the post Steve Jobs era.
It’s not so much that Samsung has gotten better, but Apple has fundamentally changed. The pipeline that Steve [Jobs] started is over.
Dubberly has a perspective on both companies, having also worked as a member of Samsung’s global design advisory board …
His view was echoed by analysts cited by the WSJ, who suggested that the question of whether or not Apple will embed a Touch ID sensor into the display of the iPhone 8 is a crucial one – as the design alone will not be enough to outdo Samsung.
The Samsung Galaxy S8 is nudging the bar higher as Apple seeks to impress with its 10th anniversary iPhone this fall. For Apple to outdo Samsung on design, analysts said, it would need a new distinguishing feature, like a fingerprint sensor beneath the display rather than a physical home button.
The piece argues that the design lead Apple had over Samsung ended with the S8.
The Galaxy S8 grew longer, slimmer and dropped most of the frame surrounding the display, for a sleek design many in the tech industry contend has bested Apple Inc.’s iPhone—some would say for the first time.
It notes that Consumer Reports rated the S8 higher than the iPhone 7 in part for this reason – though this is, of course, comparing last year’s iPhone with this year’s Samsung flagship.
Design is said to be playing a far more important role in purchasing designs as technological developments have, for now at least, reached something of a plateau.
How a smartphone looks now accounts for about half a consumer’s purchase decision, with the assessment formed in roughly one second, according to Charles L. Mauro, president of MauroNewMedia, a product-design research firm that has done consulting work for Apple and Samsung. Mr. Mauro says peer-reviewed research reveals aesthetics matter much more than previously believed, as older surveys pegged looks as influencing only 7% of a phone purchase.
However, recent data suggests that the S8 picture may not be quite so rosy as the Samsung-focused piece suggests. Analysts recently estimated that sales of this year’s flagship Samsung smartphone are actually lower than last year’s S7 at the same point in time. A report today suggested that Samsung may have more time to ramp up sales, though, as mass production of the iPhone 8 may not hit its stride until November.
This is a great and insightful article for the most part and there is no denying that Samsung are translating their foundational engineering prowess and advantages into product. However, the partcilar design of the S8 does not seem to be that successful in practice. Even heavily pro-Android, pro-Samsung people on this very sub forum (I’m sure you’ve seen them) are complaining about the proportions of the S8 and (and this part is my opinion) it looks awkward and disproportionate. In that point the “Samsung has bested Apple on design” part sure sounds a lot like the “iPhone killer” meme that’s been repeated since, well, the iPhone was created.
The rampant success of another manufacturers models, and subsequent decline of the iPhone, has been predicted for a decade and yet its success has only increased over that time. There has never been an iPhone killer. There still isn’t.
If you like Samsung and are happy their semi-conductor and other businesses are doing well, that is great. But as it relates to this forum, the discussion point would be the s8, which as you noted, is what it is.
Yes is an iPhone killer in design and other aspects. The only reason iPhone sells as it does is the software. Its long since been surpassed in design. Cmon have you actually held the 7 Plus and the S8 in your hands? The S8 is not only easier to hold but manages to fit a larger screen in the same footprint. The display is better. The hardware quality matches the iPhone. The camera is better. The only reason you can possibly give for the iPhone is ios itself.
The iPhone 8 was developed as a response to the S8. Apple just cant afford to ignore that marvellous piece of engineering and design. They have got their work cut out for them
There are also plenty of people that love the S8 shape including me. Only yesterday i was showing a work college who uses an iPhone a photo on my phone, the first thing they commented on was how great the phone itself looked before commenting on the amazing screen.
The new aspect ratio is actually very practical for both ease of handling and for seeing maximum content on scrollable content like surfing web pages ect. Apple uses like to hate on Samsung but almost everything Samsung does ends up being incorporated into all other phones down the track, they are the pioneers and always take chances. I love this about them.
The biggest piece of proof that Samsung are doing things well is that the iPhone 8 by all accounts is taking many design cues from the S8.
I don’t know how you could expect anyone to take that statement seriously. The iPhone 8, in development for at least a year, more likely 2+ is a “response” to a 5 month old phone? One with notably, as your own post pointed out, underwhelming sales? Come on, you can do better than that.
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Were that true, and I don’t think it is, let’s hope it doesn’t extend to a distorted screen and near universally derided fingerprint sensor location.
This is your opinion in all reality much like most of your Samsung PR pieces. Software and user experience does come first, you got that bit right. I've long lost interest in the physical design of a phone as it's slapped in a case and very few people are interested in phones away from geek war discussions like this.
If the s8 is an iPhone killer I didnt see it killing the iPhone. In my opinion the design is a generic black slab, the software is not as fluid as iOS and its slippery. The camera is not better as many this vs that shows; each have their flaws and strengths.
The s8 design is almost a copy of phones before it from many years ago.
There have no doubt been changes made to the design based on the competition. In the smarthphone industry, its the S8 which is currently the most best looking and designed phone. I honestly don't think how you can say the iPhone 8 and the S8 arent almost identical because they look almost exactly the same on the front.I don’t know how you could expect anyone to take that statement seriously. The iPhone 8, in development for at least a year, more likely 2+ is a “response” to a 5 month old phone? One with notably, as your own post pointed out, underwhelming sales? Come on, you can do better than that.
I would argue the S8 actually does the bezelless thing even better.
No doubt the iPhone 8 will be better than the S8 but thats a given. How will it compete with the next Note though?
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It may sound like I am a Samsung fan but the fact is they have improved the most over the years while Apple has stagnated. I have never seen such boring upgrades to the iPhone ever since the 6 dropped. Its the same same old with some extras thrown in.
The iPhone 8 is what the iPhone 7 should have been. It has almost everything Android has had for well over a year.iTS 2017 and we are still stuck on 32GB base storage, ginormous bezels which make the Plus harder to hold than the S8, a 750P LCD display and the smaller model being given third class treatment. Now the Plus edition has been relegated to the place the smaller model used to occupy and will get iterative upgrades year after year while you will have to shell out a grand to get the real upgrades which you used to get on the Plus. This is also the case with the iPad where you need to shell out more for the Pro moniker to get real upgrades which we used to get at a lower price earleier while the replacement for the Air 2 is actually worse in some areas despite costing the same
Samsung has the best display,the best design,gives higher base storage,the better camera as of now. Samsung also doesnt cap features on the smaller model.The iPhone 8 may take back some of these once it laucnhes but its thanks to Samsung we got this phone.
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best looking and best design are at most subjective. S8 copied the design language started by sharp years ago. We don't know what iPhone "x" will look like as it hasn't been announced.
As far as Apple stagnating, similar to the s8 being the s7s? Apple has the best hardware, more accurate camera etc. at any rate there are all ways of looking things.
Can you see quantitive difference between
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I can.
Here's the wild and totally not boring changes to the Edge over the last 3 years.
Laughably, Samsung have actually run their design into the ground, ruining the display with distortion, adding a useless Bixby button and putting the fingerprint sensor in a near universally derided location. Such innovation. No wait, it's throwing crap at the wall and seeing what sticks; same old Samsung.
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I can.
Here's the wild and totally not boring changes to the Edge over the last 3 years.
Laughably, Samsung have actually run their design into the ground, ruining the display with distortion, adding a useless Bixby button and putting the fingerprint sensor in a near universally derided location. Such innovation. No wait, it's throwing crap at the wall and seeing what sticks; same old Samsung.
The iPhone 8 is better looking than the 7 and the S8 looks exactly like the iPhone 8 so..
Sharp's phone still has bezels. What Sharp was doing was reducing the bezel size which Samsung was also doing before the Aquos. Tell me a phone with zero bezels and then we can talk
Its a bezelless curved edge OLED phone like the S8 and there is zero chance of me being wrong on this
Lets look at the facts
1. Galaxy S8 fits a larger screen in the same foot print as the 7 and is easier to hold because glass offer more resistance than aluminium
2. Galaxy S8 has the best display on the planet
3. Galaxy S8 has a higher DX0mark score
4. GalaxyS8 has an iris scanner.
5. Galaxy S8 has wireless charging
6. Android's numerous advantages over iOS in professional workflows
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Who is Apple's competition? Thats right the S8. These companies know all about each other's plans well in advance
Not Quite. The S6 Edge was the first brand new working concept of an Edge design which Samsung introduced in the market for the first time on its lower lineup and it has quite a lot of issues with battery and the ghost touches on the Edge screen. Then there was Sasmung's boneheaded move in removing removable storage. The S7 Edge basically fixed multitudes of issues with the S6 and the S8 is altogether in a different league like the iPhone 8 is from the 7.
The 6 was an enlarged 5s. The 6S was basically a 6 with 3DT which has been suppsoedly implemented via long press on the iPad on iOS 11. The iPhone 8 is the real upgrade to the iPhone which we have been waiting for since 2013
English language pack has been released for Bixby. I have no issues with fingerprint sensors when an iris scanner does the job. No fingerprint sensor works reliably for me when my fingers are wet or greasy so it doesnt matter for me. Iris scanner is much more efficient.
The S8 is the design king on the market and it will stay that way until Note and iPhone 8 duke it out for the top spot
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The S8 (and the S7 and S6 before it) sales figures are a fraction of iPhones. Hell, they're already on BOGOF. And no, that's not out of the goodness of Samsung's or Network's heart, or because they love you. It's because sales have tanked enough that they are quite literally giving them away. Apple's competition is previous iPhones.
That's a lot of words to confirm that hardly anything has changed. The S8 is a spec bumped S7 Edge with a broken-by-design fingerprint scanner and a button for a useless, redundant assistant no-one asked for.
So I see.
https://www.theverge.com/2017/7/19/15998258/samsung-bixby-voice-galaxy-s8-review
LOL
The design, software and hardware, of the S8 is fundamentally and deeply flawed. See: The S8 thread in this forum.
You don't know what the iPhone "x" looks like. But I do agree every iPhone iteration the looks are tweaked.
Sharp started the trend. Samsung blatantly copied them and the. Updates the design.
Got a picture from apples website.
All of that is fine and dandy but those points have nothing to do with what was posted.
The s8 is a generic slab without any character. If you like generic slabs the s8 is the design king.
@I7guy and @Radon87000 Can you guys just stop now? Enough of all the senseless back and forth from you 2 guys in yet another thread here in the alternative section.
Mods can we please keep this thread on topic?
Mods can we please keep this thread on topic?
I would like to point out that you have contributed to a number of off-topic posts as well. Here are three examples:
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...ng-profit-in-the-world.2052312/#post-24718000
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...fit-in-the-world.2052312/page-2#post-24726518
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...fit-in-the-world.2052312/page-5#post-24788255
I have no problem discussing that it's fine and dandy that Samsung's semi-conductor business is doing so well, however as it relates to the alternative forum mission, it's not well suited and probably belongs https://forums.macrumors.com/forums/apple-inc-and-tech-industry.8 But if you like Samsung and are happy that it's non-phone businesses are doing well, that is great.
Please keep going i need my daily laugh from i7guy's posts.
Sales arent an indication of anything.Not sure why you keep bringing up that point when we are trying to find out the superiority of one product over another. The AMD Ryzen lineup will sell a fraction of what Intel Kaby Lake sells for despite bringing octa core CPUs mainstream and beating competing Intels in so many benchmarks. So now thats an inferior product? The AMD R9 290X GPU didnt sell nearly as well as the GTX 970. So now its inferior?
In any case this is what Samsung states
https://www.neowin.net/news/samsung...es-are-healthy-outselling-the-galaxy-s7-by-15
By the way dont forget about the profit drop in Appleland. Even the all mighty iPhone wasnt able to keep it from falling
Nothing is broken about a rear scanner. I have used them before and have faced zero issues. This is just one of those issues which are criticisised as long as the all mighty Apple doesnt do them first. Apple integrates the scanner into the power button like Sony and no one will bat an eye. By the way no one asked to removed the headphone jack and replace it with a near useless bluetooth connectivity for headphones which are pathetic compared to my wired premium headphones which I can no longer use without an adapter thanks to Apple
The S8's design and display as well as the camera are in a completely different league compared to the S7. You can say that the S6 and S7 may not have been upgrades FOR YOU as the design didnt change much but thats facvtually incorrect for the S8.
Whats an iPhone 8 btw? Its a spec bumped iPhone 7 with an bezelless OLED display and wireless charging and an iris scanner which according to Apple fans is useless as its not secure
http://www.zdnet.com/article/bixby-voice-is-now-available-in-the-us-english-galaxy-s8-s8-plus/
And this button crap is irrelevant.You realise you can remap the button despite Samsung's opposition right? Nothing is impossible on Android
People come to forums to complain. The S8 is the best phone on Android,the best selling phone on Androif
[doublepost=1500573720][/doublepost]The iPhone 7 is inferior to the S8 but thats to be expected as the latter is a newer phone. A better competition will be the iPHONE 8 which if Apple manages to integrate the scanner into the screen and slim the bezels even more than Samsung, will be superior to the S8.
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Well I bought the best product subjectively.
Design: Apple. Dislike the generic black slab.
hardware innards: Apple. Soc. Although I'll give wireless charging a half point.
Screen: Dislike oled but I'll give Samsung a half point.
Battery: samsung sot, Apple standby.
Camera: dual camera Apple.
There is nothing more generic than the iPhone design when it comes to smartphones. Why do you think anime use the iPhone design (bland rectangle with circle button on bottom) for most general "smartphones"?
You misspelled "iconic". That's why the rounded rect with a circle button is used.
Much of this is design talk is highly subjective about good, better or best.
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