Samsung Galaxy Alpha official

[jrswizzle]

No we are not, Samsung aren't attempting to get the jump on Apple, they jumped nearly two years ago with a phone about 4.7", who's following who? There seems a double standard at play here, when it comes to shape then it's disgusting that Samsung have copied, but when it comes to size, well, it's just Apple evolving. Sorry JR, you can't have it both ways mate.

They are all at it.

Actually, HTC had the first "large display" smartphones.....they did it before Samsung. But no one seems to remember....

Anyhow, what I'm saying is the rumors are Apple is going to release a 4.7" iPhone 6 in September. Samsung already has numerous smartphones with displays that size and bigger as you point out - why create a totally new one? Especially one with lower specs that their normal flagships?

Why go from the 5" GS5 to a 4.7" phone....just for kicks? Why add a metal band around the device with chamfered edges? Because they thought it looked nice?

No - the sole reason this phone exists is because Samsung has yet to figure out what people buy iPhones more than they buy Samsung flagships. It seems they thought they'd figured it out with the 720p display, the chamfered metal band and the exact same display size as the rumored iPhone 6.

Again, why would Samsung make what are obviously backward moves (save for the more "premium build materials") in the display, size and hardware? Why does this phone even exist when its clear it isn't as good as the GS5 in every manner most Samsung fans and Samsung itself look at?

As far as Apple "copying", they are most certainly succumbing to the growing trend of larger display devices. But I'll again point out.....

The high-end market is dominated by Apple - where it is the only device with a display less than 4.5". Doesn't really jive with the narrative that Apple is copying their competitors because they are behind. So they dominate a market in which their devices lead with 4" displays and ALL other devices are lagging behind with larger displays.....but they somehow need to make a larger display to compete?

Nope....they've simply decided to diversify the iPhone line. A welcome move for those of us who would like more display real estate without having to switch to Android. Choice isn't something Google came up with. And Apple could've released a 4.7" display much earlier if it was all about following competitors.

I will always contend that in general, Apple has a pretty set road map for many years into the future and they stick to what they want to do, not what their competitors are doing.

 

[Zaft]

No we are not, Samsung aren't attempting to get the jump on Apple, they jumped nearly two years ago with a phone about 4.7", who's following who? There seems a double standard at play here, when it comes to shape then it's disgusting that Samsung have copied, but when it comes to size, well, it's just Apple evolving. Sorry JR, you can't have it both ways mate.

They are all at it.

Samsung is releasing this to be a direct shot at iphone 6. You cant seriously be implying Samsung released this phone just for the hell of it.. Samsung didn't even try to make it look original unlike HTC

 

[jamezr]

No we are not, Samsung aren't attempting to get the jump on Apple, they jumped nearly two years ago with a phone about 4.7", who's following who? There seems a double standard at play here, when it comes to shape then it's disgusting that Samsung have copied, but when it comes to size, well, it's just Apple evolving. Sorry JR, you can't have it both ways mate.

They are all at it.

Exactly! You can't say one without the other.......

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Samsung is releasing this to be a direct shot at iphone 6. You cant seriously be implying Samsung released this phone just for the hell of it.. Samsung didn't even try to make it look original unlike HTC

I don't think anyone is saying that. I think they did just that....it is an attempt to get as many customers possible to buy their phone instead of an iphone. Then lump in EVERY other smartphone maker in that group as well. The Moto X is coming out in Sept too....so are they trying to get customers from their competitors? Damn right.....so are the rest of them....so what?
Why is that wrong? It is smart business that is done everyday with every product on the market......

 

[daveathall]

Samsung is releasing this to be a direct shot at iphone 6. You cant seriously be implying Samsung released this phone just for the hell of it.. Samsung didn't even try to make it look original unlike HTC

The iPhone 6 has not been released yet, Apple has released no photos, seems like they have "doubled down on security". Cant you understand that something cannot be copied if it can't be seen?

But lets disregard that point for a minute, you say that Samsung have released their phone as a "direct shot at the iPhone 6", yes, of course they have, don't you think that that makes sense? What makes you come to the conclusion that companies don't compete?

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Actually, HTC had the first "large display" smartphones.....they did it before Samsung. But no one seems to remember....

Anyhow, what I'm saying is the rumors are Apple is going to release a 4.7" iPhone 6 in September. Samsung already has numerous smartphones with displays that size and bigger as you point out - why create a totally new one? Especially one with lower specs that their normal flagships?

Why go from the 5" GS5 to a 4.7" phone....just for kicks? Why add a metal band around the device with chamfered edges? Because they thought it looked nice?

No - the sole reason this phone exists is because Samsung has yet to figure out what people buy iPhones more than they buy Samsung flagships. It seems they thought they'd figured it out with the 720p display, the chamfered metal band and the exact same display size as the rumored iPhone 6.

Again, why would Samsung make what are obviously backward moves (save for the more "premium build materials") in the display, size and hardware? Why does this phone even exist when its clear it isn't as good as the GS5 in every manner most Samsung fans and Samsung itself look at?

As far as Apple "copying", they are most certainly succumbing to the growing trend of larger display devices. But I'll again point out.....

The high-end market is dominated by Apple - where it is the only device with a display less than 4.5". Doesn't really jive with the narrative that Apple is copying their competitors because they are behind. So they dominate a market in which their devices lead with 4" displays and ALL other devices are lagging behind with larger displays.....but they somehow need to make a larger display to compete?

Nope....they've simply decided to diversify the iPhone line. A welcome move for those of us who would like more display real estate without having to switch to Android. Choice isn't something Google came up with. And Apple could've released a 4.7" display much earlier if it was all about following competitors.

I will always contend that in general, Apple has a pretty set road map for many years into the future and they stick to what they want to do, not what their competitors are doing.

Samsung have already released their phone.

 

[jrswizzle]

The iPhone 6 has not been released yet, Apple has released no photos, seems like they have "doubled down on security". Cant you understand that something cannot be copied if it can't be seen?

But lets disregard that point for a minute, you say that Samsung have released their phone as a "direct shot at the iPhone 6", yes, of course they have, don't you think that that makes sense? What makes you come to the conclusion that companies don't compete?

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Samsung have already released their phone.

There is a difference between following industry trends (that started with HTC, not Samsung by the way) and specifically mimicking current and rumored designs/features to get a leg up on your main competitor.

When was the last time you saw Apple specifically copy something one of their competitors had to get a leg up on them? Sure Apple has borrowed like they all do - but they've done so on their own timeline and always the implementation is different.

All the Alpha proves is Samsung is out of ideas. They don't know why the GS5 flopped and they can't do anything better than try to knock off the iPhone.

I'll be glad when they lose their position as the top Android OEM. HTC and LG are doing FAR more unique things with their devices. Other OEMs deserve to be driving Android forward.....instead Samsung is just trying to be like Apple....trying and FAILING.

 

[daveathall]

There is a difference between following industry trends (that started with HTC, not Samsung by the way) and specifically mimicking current and rumored designs/features to get a leg up on your main competitor.

When was the last time you saw Apple specifically copy something one of their competitors had to get a leg up on them? Sure Apple has borrowed like they all do - but they've done so on their own timeline and always the implementation is different.

All the Alpha proves is Samsung is out of ideas. They don't know why the GS5 flopped and they can't do anything better than try to knock off the iPhone.

I'll be glad when they lose their position as the top Android OEM. HTC and LG are doing FAR more unique things with their devices. Other OEMs deserve to be driving Android forward.....instead Samsung is just trying to be like Apple....trying and FAILING.

So here is what you are saying JR, Samsung have copied a phone that hasn't been released, no one has seen any photos, Apple have not released any photos, specs, price etc, etc. Now come on my friend, can you not see how much sense that makes, it is like you answering this very post before I even post it. Please, can you not see that?

So when Apple copy it is called borrowing?

I am typing this on a brilliant mid 2010 MBP, I have a superb iPad mini, neither of these I have any desire to trade for any Android, Samsung etc equivalent. I also have a Samsung Galaxy S5, for my use it is by far the best phone I have had to date.

 

[Cnasty]

You guys are really reaching here.

Lets not act like there havent been multiple leaks of the design, screen, size, buttons, etc.

You are acting like there has been zero word or rumor of what the next iPhone is going to bring to the table in design,size,and thinness.

Hell, the most trusted tech reviewers and people in the business have iPhone6 mockups that function and they have a track record of being correct on leaked rumors.

Samsung gambled on those rumors, leaks, and info and tried to beat the release. So how you can judge JR and others with "copied a phone that hasnt been released" lines, we all have a very good understanding of what the next iPhone is bringing and so did Samsung in trying to copy and beat it to the punch.

If you honestly dont think that is what they tried to do and yes they copied an unreleased phone, then you are turning a blind eye or arguing just to argue.

 

[gotluck]

you have to admit that copying an unreleased phone is a pretty comedic concept though

less of a stretch than the claims that all of the released smartwatches are copies of apples iwatch though

apple is copying the note with their 5.5" iphone anyway

anyways.. I dont care about copying

copy on garth

 

[jrswizzle]

So here is what you are saying JR, Samsung have copied a phone that hasn't been released, no one has seen any photos, Apple have not released any photos, specs, price etc, etc. Now come on my friend, can you not see how much sense that makes, it is like you answering this very post before I even post it. Please, can you not see that?

So when Apple copy it is called borrowing?

No, actually as I've already said - I think the Alpha looks more like a large iPhone 5S. Specifically, the metal band around the phone and the chamfered edges.

So that portion has already been released.

As for the portions that are rumored - why in the world would Samsung go BACKWARDS on display size if they weren't trying to emulate SOMETHING. I'm not saying we have any official statements from Apple, but you and I both know these leaks inevitably are controlled and true. And Samsung would know better than either of us because they are actually part of the supply chain.

Apple doesn't COPY. That's why I call what they do BORROWING. In fact, what MOST OEMs do is really BORROWING. Copying implies direct fabrication of a feature or detail - not taking an idea or general trait and molding it to your own specifications.

The word COPY is used FAR too much here. All these companies BORROW. They all do it - including Apple. Sometimes, though its somewhat rare, someone will COPY. Samsung is on that end with the Alpha.

Again, they've released what they consider (or should) their best device and flagship - the Galaxy S5. They are only a couple of months away from releasing what I consider their REAL flagship - the Note 4.

So why do they feel the need to release a less powerful, smaller phone at this point in time? Have you ever seen Apple release something DIRECTLY before a competitor's release is scheduled to happen?

Nope - because they don't need to. They have a timetable, they stick to it despite what their competitors are doing. I'm not saying they don't pay attention to the competition and they certainly monitor industry trends, but they don't do so on their competitors' timetables.

 

[daveathall]

You guys are really reaching here.

Lets not act like there havent been multiple leaks of the design, screen, size, buttons, etc.

You are acting like there has been zero word or rumor of what the next iPhone is going to bring to the table in design,size,and thinness.

Hell, the most trusted tech reviewers and people in the business have iPhone6 mockups that function and they have a track record of being correct on leaked rumors.

Samsung gambled on those rumors, leaks, and info and tried to beat the release. So how you can judge JR and others with "copied a phone that hasnt been released" lines, we all have a very good understanding of what the next iPhone is bringing and so did Samsung in trying to copy and beat it to the punch.

If you honestly dont think that is what they tried to do and yes they copied an unreleased phone, then you are turning a blind eye or arguing just to argue.

Not reaching at all mate, just pointing out double standards. Go back and read, you will find loads.

 

[jrswizzle]

You guys are really reaching here.

Lets not act like there havent been multiple leaks of the design, screen, size, buttons, etc.

You are acting like there has been zero word or rumor of what the next iPhone is going to bring to the table in design,size,and thinness.

Hell, the most trusted tech reviewers and people in the business have iPhone6 mockups that function and they have a track record of being correct on leaked rumors.

Samsung gambled on those rumors, leaks, and info and tried to beat the release. So how you can judge JR and others with "copied a phone that hasnt been released" lines, we all have a very good understanding of what the next iPhone is bringing and so did Samsung in trying to copy and beat it to the punch.

If you honestly dont think that is what they tried to do and yes they copied an unreleased phone, then you are turning a blind eye or arguing just to argue.

you have to admit that copying an unreleased phone is a pretty comedic concept though

less of a stretch than the claims that all of the released smartwatches are copies of apples iwatch though

apple is copying the note with their 5.5" iphone anyway

anyways.. I dont care about copying

And even ignoring what we see in the media - Samsung is a part of Apple's supply chain for goodness sake! They likely know far more than we do.

Like I said - the word "copy" is like the word "innovation". It's a buzz word that's thrown around to stir up arguments and the meaning of the word has been stretched and twisted.

Samsung didn't COPY the iWatch. But you sure as hell can't deny they rushed that bad boy so they could be first.

And the timeframe here only proves my point - if Apple were as concerned about competitors, wouldn't they accelerate their iWatch release? I mean, look at how great the Moto360 looks. Don't you think Apple would want to get theirs out there to make sure they had a leg up?

Nope - they don't care. They do things their way on their timetable. They built a brand and trust they have the customers and following to make a new product a success. That and they're confident that what they build is the best in the business.

Samsung doesn't have that confidence anymore (if they ever did). That's why I don't mind watching them fall. Let HTC, Motorola and LG move Android forward. All Samsung's done is put it in a stranglehold as they bashed Apple all while trying to be exactly like them.

 

[gotluck]

Yea you certainly have a point JR. Samsung just throws out whatever they think can possibly stick. Apple is much more afraid of having a flop and every move is calculated. Thats all fine and good. different strategies. Apple does have the priveledge of not caring about other OEM's though, which really noone else can say (which makes me blame samsung et al less).

I too hate that Samsung is trying to be like Apple, but for other reasons, locking their phones down, knox, they used to be the most open of all the android OEM's. I too hope they get some 'sense' knocked into them. Touchwizz is my main issue though, I actually like their hardware. I can deal with the build quality for the hardware features other phones dont offer

 

[jolux]

No...it is not. It is directly aimed at potential iphone buyers. No coincidence at all....... It is smart business. It happens all over the world every single day.


So what about the Galaxy Gear???? What Apple product did they copy with that?
I don't like the Gear and have no use for it but c'mon.....Apple doesn't even make a competing product.

You don't remember what a big deal the iWatch was? Samsung thought it was going to come out the next month so they threw some **** together and released. It was an undeniably ****** product, no reviewer liked it.

Samsung have a time machine. They go forward in time, see what Apple have released and then come back to our present and then copy Apple.

It baffled me how Samsung were able to copy Apple with the galaxy note series (as stated on Mac rumours forum) but I finally Sussed it out

No, they make new products based off of rumors to try and anticipate Apple and then they get to say WE HAD IT FIRST THIS TIME even though they were just copying Apple rumors.

LOL.....considering they sell more smartphones than anyone else in the world......your comment makes perfect sense.
Such a Samsung hater.........wow.

Argumentum ad populum, eh? Quite convincing.

So because Apple's marketing decides that there is a market for 4.7" Screen Phones (Which they certainly weren't the first to do), Samsung should just give them that piece of pie? Aren't they allowed to compete directly with Apple and let the customer decide (Which, I'm sure, will go for the iPhone 6, while the Alpha will stay niche)?

As long as you cannot confuse both phones (telling from the pictures it would be hard to do so) I don't see anything condemnable..

Like I said, it must just be a massive ****ing coincidence. You're right. Metal frame, same screen size, same colors, etc. Seems legit.

you have to admit that copying an unreleased phone is a pretty comedic concept though

less of a stretch than the claims that all of the released smartwatches are copies of apples iwatch though

apple is copying the note with their 5.5" iphone anyway

anyways.. I dont care about copying

copy on garth

I'm honestly not surprised with Samsung. They run roughshod over the South Korean government, basically controlling it, they rip off designs from all over the place, (some idiot at Samsung even thought it would be a good idea to copy the look and feel of Windows 8 on Android) and then they throw together ****** plastic hunks of junk that barely hold together long enough to complete a contract. The average ownership period for an Android phone is 18 months. For an iPhone, it's over two years. What does that say to you about build quality? There are plenty of people still walking around with iPhone 4s, but I challenge you to find as many walking around with Galaxy S2s.

Samsung are masters at throwing **** at the wall to see what sticks. This is no different. If the iPhone 6 does not have a 4.7" display and metal frame, the Alpha just seems like a weird release. If it does, they get to say that Apple copied them. It's all about getting there first, they aren't even trying to make good products. Apple is. Samsung is trying to make money by making poor imitations of Apple products, and spending ungodly amounts of money on advertising. It's unsustainable, and they're already slipping in the "emerging markets" where everyone claimed Apple would have no foothold.

 

[jrswizzle]

It's all about getting there first, they aren't even trying to make good products. Apple is. Samsung is trying to make money by making poor imitations of Apple products, and spending ungodly amounts of money on advertising. It's unsustainable, and they're already slipping in the "emerging markets" where everyone claimed Apple would have no foothold.

This is why I'll be glad to see Samsung fail. It's not about making the best products they can. It's about beating Apple at their own game and being "first" - as if that means anything.

HTC is making great handsets. LG is as well. And Motorola is the most underrated of them all. I hope they get more publicity and spotlight as Samsung fades.

It's not even about APPLE at all....I want to see more interesting and unique ideas come out of the Android side. HTC, Motorola and LG are doing this - Samsung isn't.

 

[jolux]

This is why I'll be glad to see Samsung fail. It's not about making the best products they can. It's about beating Apple at their own game and being "first" - as if that means anything.

HTC is making great handsets. LG is as well. And Motorola is the most underrated of them all. I hope they get more publicity and spotlight as Samsung fades.

HTC makes beautiful products that are carefully designed, if they could code well they would be a serious Apple competitor. As it stands, their designs are limited by Android. Unfortunately, no one is buying anything but Samsung phones when it comes to Android.

First it was about seeing what Apple made and then copying it, altering it to look just different enough. Now it's about being "first." What is Samsung's brand? What are they known for? They aren't known to be particularly good at anything, HTC is better at hardware and Google is better at software. They sell the most because they advertise the most.

Apple's brand is beauty and simplicity, Samsung's is currently TBD. If Samsung could find a brand, they would be doing a lot better.

 

[gotluck]

HTC makes beautiful products that are carefully designed, if they could code well they would be a serious Apple competitor. As it stands, their designs are limited by Android. Unfortunately, no one is buying anything but Samsung phones when it comes to Android.

You are losing me a bit with this, HTC's Sense is known for being arguably the best / most optimized skin, and you also have the option to fully convert to Google Edition. The main issue with the M8, from what I've heard is the camera quality and the large size of the device itself. It runs beautifully.

 

[jolux]

You are losing be a bit with this, HTC's Sense is known for being arguably the best skin, and you also have the option to convert to Google Edition. The main issue with the M8, from what I've heard is the camera quality and the size of the device itself. It runs beautifully.

I meant code their own OS. The seamless integration is lacking when you're forced to use someone else's code. I'm not saying Sense is bad, but considering most people hate skins, being the best is not saying much. I'm saying it could be better.

Also, don't you have to buy Play Editions unlocked?

 

[jamezr]

You don't remember what a big deal the iWatch was? Samsung thought it was going to come out the next month so they threw some **** together and released. It was an undeniably ****** product, no reviewer liked it..

So what Apple watch did they copy.......
The Samsung Gear has been out since September 4, 2013. How long has an Apple watch been on the market? The Galaxy Gear 2...release in April 2014 has gotten mostly good reviews....
How many other companies make smart watches? Did they copy an unreleased Apple product too? Even years before rumors surfaced?
How many phones out there have 4.7 or 5.5 screens? Did they copy Apple too?

 

[jrswizzle]

HTC makes beautiful products that are carefully designed, if they could code well they would be a serious Apple competitor. As it stands, their designs are limited by Android. Unfortunately, no one is buying anything but Samsung phones when it comes to Android.

First it was about seeing what Apple made and then copying it, altering it to look just different enough. Now it's about being "first." What is Samsung's brand? What are they known for? They aren't known to be particularly good at anything, HTC is better at hardware and Google is better at software. They sell the most because they advertise the most.

Apple's brand is beauty and simplicity, Samsung's is currently TBD. If Samsung could find a brand, they would be doing a lot better.

Very well said. I actually like Sense as a skin. It's my favorite, but still not as good as I hope Android L will make Vanilla Android.

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You are losing me a bit with this, HTC's Sense is known for being arguably the best / most optimized skin, and you also have the option to fully convert to Google Edition. The main issue with the M8, from what I've heard is the camera quality and the large size of the device itself. It runs beautifully.

Agreed - an HTC One with the iPhone's camera would be unreal. I'd be all over it honestly....

Though I wouldn't give up my iPhone altogether

 

[jolux]

So what Apple watch did they copy.......
The Samsung Gear has been out since September 4, 2013. How long has an Apple watch been on the market? The Galaxy Gear 2...release in April 2014 has gotten mostly good reviews....
How many other companies make smart watches? Did they copy an unreleased Apple product too? Even years before rumors surfaced?
How many phones out there have 4.7 or 5.5 screens? Did they copy Apple too?

They were going by the rumors. You seriously think they put a lot of effort into that?

http://www.engadget.com/2014/04/16/gear-2-review/

"much improved, but that doesn't mean you should buy it" That sounds like a resounding endorsement, doesn't it?

http://www.cnet.com/products/samsung-gear-2/

"better off waiting for Android Wear"

http://www.theverge.com/2014/6/9/5786010/samsung-gear-2-smartwatch-wearable-review

"better, faster, smarter, but not enough"

http://www.techradar.com/us/reviews/gadgets/samsung-gear-2-1226993/review

"A cool watch - but it's already been outshone"

Where are these good reviews of which you speak?

I'm saying it's pretty damn clear that they're trying to make a nearly identical iPhone 6 clone when they release it mid-August. Everyone expects iPhone 6 to drop in the first week of September, now they can say they had it first.

Why else would they release a 4.7" phone in the same colors as the iPhone 5s with a metal frame two weeks before the iPhone 6? Like I said, must be a massive ****ing coincidence.

 

[jamezr]

They were going by the rumors. You seriously think they put a lot of effort into that?

http://www.engadget.com/2014/04/16/gear-2-review/

"much improved, but that doesn't mean you should buy it" That sounds like a resounding endorsement, doesn't it?

http://www.cnet.com/products/samsung-gear-2/

"better off waiting for Android Wear"

http://www.theverge.com/2014/6/9/5786010/samsung-gear-2-smartwatch-wearable-review

"better, faster, smarter, but not enough"

http://www.techradar.com/us/reviews/gadgets/samsung-gear-2-1226993/review

"A cool watch - but it's already been outshone"

Where are these good reviews of which you speak?

I'm saying it's pretty damn clear that they're trying to make a nearly identical iPhone 6 clone when they release it mid-August. Everyone expects iPhone 6 to drop in the first week of September, now they can say they had it first.

Why else would they release a 4.7" phone in the same colors as the iPhone 5s with a metal frame two weeks before the iPhone 6? Like I said, must be a massive ****ing coincidence.

I said mostly positive reviews...and if you actually read those reviews and the ratings...they are mostly positive....but the smart watch product space needs to mature to suit people needs.

Did you read they responses to your Samsung hatred? Do you see where most of us are agreeing with you that the Samsung Alpha is directed at taking customers away from Apple. Did you read others saying NOONE will confuse a Samsung Alpha for an Iphone ever....... Would you confuse the two phones?
It says Samsung on it and has a 4.7 inch screen....what Apple product does it resemble?
Is it aimed to steal customers from its competitors? Why yes it is.......
Does Samsung have a 5.5 inch smartphone? Why yes it does.....well mostly. It has the 5.2 inch Galaxy S5 and the 5.7 inch Galaxy Note 3....so are they copying Apple too? If Apple releases a 5.5 inch iphone....are they copying Samsung?

 

[jolux]

I said mostly positive reviews...and if you actually read those reviews and the ratings...they are mostly positive....but the smart watch product space needs to mature to suit people needs.

Did you read they responses to your Samsung hatred? Do you see where most of us are agreeing with you that the Samsung Alpha is directed at taking customers away from Apple. Did you read others saying NOONE will confuse a Samsung Alpha for an Iphone ever....... Would you confuse the two phones? It says Samsung on it and being 4.7 inch screen
what Apple product does it resemble?
Is it aimed to steal customers from its competitors? Why yes it is.......
Does Samsung have a 5.5 inch smartphone? Why yes it does.....well mostly. It has the 5.2 inch Galaxy S5 and the 5.7 inch Galaxy Note 3....so are they copying Apple too? If Apple releases a 5.5 inch iphone....are they copying Samsung?

Find a positive review. I dare you. I read all of them, none of them think it's a great or even good product.

I do read the responses. You seem to think that they aren't copying it though. It's not about whether you'd confuse it with an iPhone, it's about features. It strongly resembles an iPhone 5/5s with those beveled metal edges and the screen size is allegedly the same.

If Apple releases a 5.5 inch iPhone, it has yet to be seen whether or not they are copying Samsung. Samsung doesn't have a 5.5" phone, and all of their phones to this point have been plastic. If the Apple one has a 5.7" screen and is made of cheap plastic, then yes. They are copying Samsung.

You seem to forget why companies copy other companies. The company being copied does not copy, they are too confident in their own designs to do so. The whole reason you copy a design is because it is unique and beautiful. I don't think the Alpha is either of those.

The factors I base my assumption on are build materials, screen size, timing, and Samsung's past history. There's simply too many coincidences for it not to be a blatant ploy at anticipating what the iPhone 6 will look like.

 

[jamezr]

Find a positive review. I dare you. I read all of them, none of them think it's a great or even good product.

I do read the responses. You seem to think that they aren't copying it though. It's not about whether you'd confuse it with an iPhone, it's about features. It strongly resembles an iPhone 5/5s with those beveled metal edges and the screen size is allegedly the same.

If Apple releases a 5.5 inch iPhone, it has yet to be seen whether or not they are copying Samsung. Samsung doesn't have a 5.5" phone, and all of their phones to this point have been plastic. If the Apple one has a 5.7" screen and is made of cheap plastic, then yes. They are copying Samsung.

You seem to forget why companies copy other companies. The company being copied does not copy, they are too confident in their own designs to do so. The whole reason you copy a design is because it is unique and beautiful. I don't think the Alpha is either of those.

The factors I base my assumption on are build materials, screen size, timing, and Samsung's past history. There's simply too many coincidences for it not to be a blatant ploy at anticipating what the iPhone 6 will look like.

LG recently released the 5.5 inch LG G3....so now is apple copying them?
There are so many 5.5 inch phones on the market....too many to list but the LG G3 is the most recent.

The Galaxy Gear could be crap......who cares? They didn't copy an Apple product because one doesn't exist! Then there were other smartphone makers with products on the market LONG before any rumors of an apple smartwatch.

Next you being saying Samsung only makes smart TVs because Apple might make one......oh wait....that's right Samsung has been making TVs for quite some time now.....
Man you gotta stop drinking that Kool-Aid.........

 

[jolux]

LG recently released the 5.5 inch LG G3....so now is apple copying them?
There are so many 5.5 inch phones on the market....too many to list but the LG G3 is the most recent.

The Galaxy Gear could be crap......who cares? They didn't copy an Apple product because one doesn't exist! Then there were other smartphone makers with products on the market LONG before any rumors of an apple smartwatch.

Next you being saying Samsung only makes smart TVs because Apple might make one......oh wait....that's right Samsung ahs been making TVs for quite some time now.....
Man you gotta stop drinking that Kool-Aid.........

They didn't copy an Apple product. They went off a rumor so they could be "first," and now they just look like idiots.

You seriously don't get the difference between plastic and metal, do you? Christ. You have to look at the design of these things. The Alpha very clearly pulls from several Apple design elements, single buttons on the front of the device, lack of patterning, beveled edge on the side. They even have the same colors! LG hasn't done beveled metal edges nor have they copied Apple's color choices. Samsung has now done both, and your defense of them is getting less and less cohesive. Heck, even the ad for it could have been an Apple ad:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8OZoyHvX78

I would never say Samsung copies Apple with their TVs. Apple doesn't make TVs, they don't even really compete with Samsung in that realm, unless you consider the Apple TV. I'd really prefer you lay off the ad hominems and straw men as well, it doesn't help your case.

 

[jrswizzle]

LG recently released the 5.5 inch LG G3....so now is apple copying them?
There are so many 5.5 inch phones on the market....too many to list but the LG G3 is the most recent.

The Galaxy Gear could be crap......who cares? They didn't copy an Apple product because one doesn't exist! Then there were other smartphone makers with products on the market LONG before any rumors of an apple smartwatch.

Next you being says Samsung only makes smart TVs because Apple might make one......oh wait....that's right Samsung ahs been making TVs for quite some time now.....
Man you gotta stop drinking that Kool-Aid.........

You have me on ignore, so you can't see this but it'll hopefully address some points for others reading:

(1) You keep fixating on the display size. The only reason its an issue is because Samsung moved past 4.7" displays for flagship devices quite some time ago. Why would they go backwards to that particular size? Oh, because that's what the iPhone 6 is rumored (read as factual) to be.

(2) Samsung didn't COPY the Apple iWatch - obviously, because as you point out the iWatch doesn't exist. But Samsung sure as hell rushed a crappy product to market just to be first because of all the rumors of an Apple smartwatch. To say they didn't is naive.

(3) No, no one would say anything of the sort related to TVs. There are currently no rumors or indications that Apple is making a smart TV and as you point out, Samsung has been in that industry for many years. Not even close to a similar comparison.

It's not about kool-aid. Making generalizations and applying random pieces of information to completely different situations is simply irresponsible. All we're doing is point out a pretty OBVIOUS tactic Samsung has used over the last 2 years specifically. Other ANDROID OEMs seem to be able to come up with great devices on their own and release them on their own timelines. For some reason, Samsung can't seem to do this.

The Note series is about all they have to hold on to. If Apple releases a 5.5" phablet with a stylus, I'll be here with you to say they BORROWED Samsung's only original idea. But unless it's made from faux leather, plastic and has a ridiculously over saturated display, I will refrain from using the word COPIED.

Have you ever photocopied something? Generally, the photocopy comes out looking pretty much the same as the original (depending on what you are copying). Let's try to use words like COPY only in instances where the meaning of the word actually applies and makes sense.