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I think it’s the old issue of iPhones having a much smaller idle drain compared to Android. However, if you actively use both with the screen on, the smaller mAh count is starting to show.

That absolutely used to be true regarding Android battery drain but I don't think that applies anymore in 2018. My note drains 2% overnight
 

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you'd rather have biased "evidence" from people instead of just seeing the phones tested side by side on video? these are tested using the exact same apps at the same time in the same location.

the note flat out embarrasses the iphone in the battery department. get over it.

Really? Max kills the Note 9, not the other way around.




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i'm saying two phones tested side by side doing the exact same thing for the exact same amount of time is way more accurate than you using an iphone one day and an android phone the next. i'd rather see the results myself rather than depend on someones biased words. i can understand why you prefer the 2nd method though. its not easy seeing a 1500 purchase lose so easily.

I rather rely on reliable sources on Youtube then just some John Doe that doesn't have a reputation. I posted some of the reliable sources that have tested many phones this way.
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LOL phone calls, messaging, emails, surfing the web, watching videos and playing games isn't real world?

Take a screenshot of your battery usage so I can see all these real world apps that wasn't included.

My own experience and many others on AndroidCentral are real world, and the ones that owned both phones have said the MAX out lasts the Note 9. Mine again, out lasted the Note 9 by a great amount with exactly the same usage. Sometimes LESS because I had to cut back my usage on the Note 9 to make it last till I got to a charger. When I have 30% at 6pm vs 70% on the Max at the same time with the same usage that is proof enough the N9 doesn't last like they say.
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Like what exactly? Both phones are the same brightness, connected to the same wifi/cell tower, doing the exact same things yet they do not have the same battery life.

What other factor do you think lead to such a dramatic difference?

But in your tests, the N9 isn't running at optimal resolution like they should be where the phone was designed, instead its cut back to save on battery life.
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I don't think that's true anymore since Marshmallow which was supposed to fix the stand by drain. For example my XS Max was losing about 2-4% per hour while my Note 8 loses 3% in 12 hours.

Nope, it still drains depending what apps you have on there and what they are doing in the background. My Note 9 would sit there draining 10% in 1.5 hours or so without any use.
 

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I don't think that's true anymore since Marshmallow which was supposed to fix the stand by drain. For example my XS Max was losing about 2-4% per hour while my Note 8 loses 3% in 12 hours.

It was supposed to be fixed and while there has definitely been some improvement, I still see some occasional idle drain on my S8+.
 

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That absolutely used to be true regarding Android battery drain but I don't think that applies anymore in 2018. My note drains 2% overnight

Don't believe it. Please provide proof. Mine drained 30% overnight by it not picking up the wireless charger correctly, and it had 5% when I woke up left. LOL. And the top drainer was Android System which you can't do anything about.
 

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Really? Max kills the Note 9, not the other way around.




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I rather rely on reliable sources on Youtube then just some John Doe that doesn't have a reputation. I posted some of the reliable sources that have tested many phones this way.
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My own experience and many others on AndroidCentral are real world, and the ones that owned both phones have said the MAX out lasts the Note 9. Mine again, out lasted the Note 9 by a great amount with exactly the same usage. Sometimes LESS because I had to cut back my usage on the Note 9 to make it last till I got to a charger. When I have 30% at 6pm vs 70% on the Max at the same time with the same usage that is proof enough the N9 doesn't last like they say.
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But in your tests, the N9 isn't running at optimal resolution like they should be where the phone was designed, instead its cut back to save on battery life.

Did you say a biased source with 115k subscribers is somehow a legit source but a channel with almost a million subscribers is not? Lol

Oh by the way, in the first video you posted, how come the iPhones don't have Sim cards and are treated as ipod while the note has cellular signal? Hmmmmm

If you don't like biased YouTube videos then how about articles? Do you have any claiming the iPhone is even within an hour of the note?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.to...s-iphone-xs-max-battery-life,review-5773.html

https://www.gsmarena.com/battery-test.php3
 
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Really? Max kills the Note 9, not the other way around.




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I rather rely on reliable sources on Youtube then just some John Doe that doesn't have a reputation. I posted some of the reliable sources that have tested many phones this way.
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My own experience and many others on AndroidCentral are real world, and the ones that owned both phones have said the MAX out lasts the Note 9. Mine again, out lasted the Note 9 by a great amount with exactly the same usage. Sometimes LESS because I had to cut back my usage on the Note 9 to make it last till I got to a charger. When I have 30% at 6pm vs 70% on the Max at the same time with the same usage that is proof enough the N9 doesn't last like they say.
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But in your tests, the N9 isn't running at optimal resolution like they should be where the phone was designed, instead its cut back to save on battery life.
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Nope, it still drains depending what apps you have on there and what they are doing in the background. My Note 9 would sit there draining 10% in 1.5 hours or so without any use.
These tests do not reflect real world usage unlike the Phone Buff test in which it simulates a real world phone usage.
 

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Did you say a biased source with 115k subscribers is somehow a legit source but a channel with almost a million subscribers is not? Lol

Oh by the way, in the first video you posted, how come the iPhones don't have Sim cards and are treated as ipod while the note has cellular signal? Hmmmmm

If you don't like biased YouTube videos then how about articles? Do you have any claiming the iPhone is even within an hour of the note?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.to...s-iphone-xs-max-battery-life,review-5773.html

https://www.gsmarena.com/battery-test.php3

Got to love how you just pick out one source. 1.5 M is the first video. Wow, if you actually were smart, you would know that the Note 9 without a SIM still has a cellular signal. LOL

Okay, how about the most legit source on Youtube and the Internet. And last I checked, you didn't own both devices. I did and so have several other users here.

https://bgr.com/2018/09/26/iphone-xs-max-battery-life-test-vs-iphone-xs-galaxy-note-9-iphone-x/

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https://boygeniusreport.files.wordp...hone-arena.jpg?quality=98&strip=all&strip=all
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These tests do not reflect real world usage unlike the Phone Buff test in which it simulates a real world phone usage.

Really? Now excuses come out of the 2-3 usual users here. Screen constantly on, doing exactly the same stuff all the phones are together, and it lost. Wow. Lost 4 times. The graph above was real world usage. My own experience is real world usage. The Max beats the Note 9 period. Just because certain users here are so biased they can't see past that Note now they own one. I was never like that.

For that matter, 4 different youtube videos show it beating the Note 9. FOUR that act like Real world usage. And BGR Real world test shows it. Among other tests out there I didn't pick from.
 
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Got to love how you just pick out one source. 1.5 M is the first video. Wow, if you actually were smart, you would know that the Note 9 without a SIM still has a cellular signal. LOL

Okay, how about the most legit source on Youtube and the Internet. And last I checked, you didn't own both devices. I did and so have several other users here.

https://bgr.com/2018/09/26/iphone-xs-max-battery-life-test-vs-iphone-xs-galaxy-note-9-iphone-x/

iphone-xs-max-vs-iphone-xs-battery-life-test-phone-arena.jpg
https://boygeniusreport.files.wordp...hone-arena.jpg?quality=98&strip=all&strip=all
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Really? Please described how those don't act like real world usage? Because they sure do look like that to me. The graph above was real world usage. My own experience is real world usage. The Max beats the Note 9 period. Just because certain users here are so biased they can't see past that Note now they own one. I was never like that.
Relax, I own both Samsung and iPhone and don't act so defensive like you. We got to give credit when credit is due, and in this case the Note 9 still beats the XS Max battery life. Real world usage means using a combination of various Apps like Internet, Spotify, Instagram, WhatsApp, Youtube through the day which was exactly what Phone Buff test was about. It was repeated twice and it came with the exact same result, and that's to expect because the Note 9 has a 4.000 mAH battery. Now you talk about your own usage perspective and I'll talk about mine on how my Note 8 battery life is still better than my Max was and it was using a 10nm processor with a 3.300 mAH battery, which is close to the XS Max now, not to talk about the insane stand by drain I got with the Max which I still do with the X.
 

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Relax, I own both Samsung and iPhone and don't act so defensive like you. We got to give credit when credit is due, and in this case the Note 9 still beats the XS Max battery life. Real world usage means using a combination of various Apps like Internet, Spotify, Instagram, WhatsApp, Youtube through the day which was exactly what Phone Buff test was about. It was repeated twice and it came with the exact same result, and that's to expect because the Note 9 has a 4.000 mAH battery. Now you talk about your own usage perspective and I'll talk about mine on how my Note 8 battery life is still better than my Max was and it was using a 10nm processor with a 3.300 mAH battery, which is close to the XS Max now, not to talk about the insane stand by drain I got with the Max which I still do with the X.

Sure it does. Do your own test and prove it on a video. I'll be waiting.
 

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Sure it does. Do your own test and prove it on a video. I'll be waiting.
Then my argument is as useless as yours since you have no proof either, in fact I threw way better arguments than you and from all of them all you came up with was asking me to prove my own experience. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 

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Then my argument is as useless as yours since you have no proof either, in fact I threw way better arguments than you and from all of them all you came up with was asking me to prove my own experience. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Actually I do. And posted it from legit sources. But you can continue to post whatever source you want and argue all you want, but it won't change my mind as I saw what the usage was and it was one of the big reasons I got rid of the Note 9 because it couldn't make it through my day with heavy usage. Here is an example of my usage on my Note 9. Only 5 hours of battery life with the screen on. That is much less than what is advertised.

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[doublepost=1539532449][/doublepost]And here is what it was after almost 7 hours off the charger, but only 1 hour and 30 minutes of usage, and already down to 67 percent. That was a lite day.

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Actually I do. And posted it from legit sources. But you can continue to post whatever source you want and argue all you want, but it won't change my mind as I saw what the usage was and it was one of the big reasons I got rid of the Note 9 because it couldn't make it through my day with heavy usage. Here is an example of my usage on my Note 9. Only 5 hours of battery life with the screen on. That is much less than what is advertised.

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[doublepost=1539532449][/doublepost]And here is what it was after almost 7 hours off the charger, but only 1 hour and 30 minutes of usage, and already down to 67 percent. That was a lite day.

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Then it stands as I said before... it varies from user experience, and just because your unit isn't giving you the same experience as most it doesn't mean they are lying.
 

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Then it stands as I said before... it varies from user experience, and just because your unit isn't giving you the same experience as most it doesn't mean they are lying.

Actually mine was giving the experience as most were getting per the users on AndroidCentral. I checked with them and they said that was the average life of the N9.

Also, with that, doesn't mean the Max doesn't beat the N9 like some continue to think otherwise. I'll gladly post proof of the iPhones battery life once I go back to work and start using my phone more than my PC since I've been on vacation for the past week.
 

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Actually mine was giving the experience as most were getting per the users on AndroidCentral. I checked with them and they said that was the average life of the N9.

Also, with that, doesn't mean the Max doesn't beat the N9 like some continue to think otherwise. I'll gladly post proof of the iPhones battery life once I go back to work and start using my phone more than my PC since I've been on vacation for the past week.
Well I'm just here trying to figure out which phone has the best battery life and if I purchase another Max or a Note 9... but all experiences are so different that I feel like I'm going nowhere.
 

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Actually mine was giving the experience as most were getting per the users on AndroidCentral. I checked with them and they said that was the average life of the N9.

Also, with that, doesn't mean the Max doesn't beat the N9 like some continue to think otherwise. I'll gladly post proof of the iPhones battery life once I go back to work and start using my phone more than my PC since I've been on vacation for the past week.

This is what I got in general. Not sure what the deal with your phone.

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And this is proof that people are complaining on the N9. It isn't All Day battery life like Samsung says.

https://forums.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-note-9/906223-so-all-day-battery-life.html
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This is what I got in general. Not sure what the deal with your phone.

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You obviously are a lite user and just reading a book. That is what makes the screen on time go real high.

Read this, this is what the average users are complaining about. 11 pages deep.

https://forums.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-note-9/906223-so-all-day-battery-life.html
 

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And this is proof that people are complaining on the N9. It isn't All Day battery life like Samsung says.

https://forums.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-note-9/906223-so-all-day-battery-life.html
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You obviously are a lite user and just reading a book. That is what makes the screen on time go real high.

Read this, this is what the average users are complaining about. 11 pages deep.

https://forums.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-note-9/906223-so-all-day-battery-life.html

What constitutes a heavy user then? Your screen shots look exactly like his. I didn't see any apps that were heavy usage?

What is heavy usage and do you have a screen shot of your heavy usage?
 

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And this is proof that people are complaining on the N9. It isn't All Day battery life like Samsung says.

https://forums.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-note-9/906223-so-all-day-battery-life.html
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You obviously are a lite user and just reading a book. That is what makes the screen on time go real high.

Read this, this is what the average users are complaining about. 11 pages deep.

https://forums.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-note-9/906223-so-all-day-battery-life.html

Nope. I dont read book. I use WhatsApp and watch YouTube a lot.

Did you read the link you gave? Many in there also posted usage that is similar to mine. Maybe you are like the OP of that thread in ac who has issues and then keep insisting you are right and the rest of the world is wrong.

Btw: the thread which said the xs max got network reception issue is at 97 pages long. Sorry to tell you your max got reception issue :p
 
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Nope. I dont read book. I use WhatsApp and watch YouTube a lot.

Did you read the link you gave? Many in there also posted usage that is similar to mine. Maybe you are like the OP of that thread in ac who has issues and then keep insisting you are right and the rest of the world is wrong.

I like how if you post good battery life than all you do is read books lol. Can't be any other explanation.....
 
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What constitutes a heavy user then? Your screen shots look exactly like his. I didn't see any apps that were heavy usage?

What is heavy usage and do you have a screen shot of your heavy usage?

Actually using applications on the phone and not just reading a book or browsing the web.

Still waiting for you to provide proof of that 2%.
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Nope. I dont read book. I use WhatsApp and watch YouTube a lot.

Did you read the link you gave? Many in there also posted usage that is similar to mine. Maybe you are like the OP of that thread in ac who has issues and then keep insisting you are right and the rest of the world is wrong.

Btw: the thread which said the xs max got network reception issue is at 97 pages long. Sorry to tell you your max got reception issue :p

If you used youtube or whatsapp a lot it would be at the top of that usage list. Keep trying.

I did, and most do not get that usage if you read through all 11 pages of it. Like I said, keep trying to sway it your way.
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I like how if you post good battery life than all you do is read books lol. Can't be any other explanation.....

That is the common reason why it wouldn't show the usage on the app list and be Android system at the top. You don't know much about android it seems.
 

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Actually using applications on the phone and not just reading a book or browsing the web.

Still waiting for you to provide proof of that 2%.
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If you used youtube or whatsapp a lot it would be at the top of that usage list. Keep trying.

I did, and most do not get that usage if you read through all 11 pages of it. Like I said, keep trying to sway it your way.
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That is the common reason why it wouldn't show the usage on the app list and be Android system at the top. You don't know much about android it seems.

Circled is battery drain while I was sleeping. Below is 4 hours of stuff on reddit, 2 hours of streaming live Tv,and an hour of YouTube. That's on top of emails and texting which doesnt consume enough power to show. Not to mention constantly being connected to my watch and speakers. Does this look more than reading books to you?
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So what you're basically saying is that in perfect condition the iPhone lost badly but if you take both phones out into not perfect conditions, the iPhone will suddenly stand a chance? Hmmmm not sure I follow such logic.

The note gets strong signal everywhere due to its attenna. I don't think going to a low signal area would do the iPhone any favors in testing.

I didn't even say that, I just said the test isn't exactly real world. All benchmarks are flawed.
 
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Circled is battery drain while I was sleeping. Below is 4 hours of stuff on reddit, 2 hours of streaming live Tv,and an hour of YouTube. That's on top of emails and texting which doesnt consume enough power to show. Not to mention constantly being connected to my watch and speakers. Does this look more than reading books to you? View attachment 794953

Yep, lite use. Reddit is just very lite use. Streaming TV to your TV doesn't use anything on the phone to do it, as once you point it to your TV, the TV device and the internet get it directly from the source then and not the phone. And 1 hour youtube.

That makes it obvious why you get such long times with your device. Try actually using your device for lots of emails, text messages, many phone calls, and several hours of youtube. That is all I did on mine. Except the occasional GPS in google maps, NFC purchases, and streaming music to my car stereo.

I do agree, yours doesn't seem to drain while you are sleeping very much. Rare occurrence at least per the majority on Androidcentral.

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I didn't even say that, I just said the test isn't exactly real world. All benchmarks are flawed.

Agreed. They are all flawed when they don't meet the expectations of certain users.
 

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Yep, lite use. Reddit is just very lite use. Streaming TV to your TV doesn't use anything on the phone to do it, as once you point it to your TV, the TV device and the internet get it directly from the source then and not the phone. And 1 hour youtube.

That makes it obvious why you get such long times with your device. Try actually using your device for lots of emails, text messages, many phone calls, and several hours of youtube. That is all I did on mine. Except the occasional GPS in google maps, NFC purchases, and streaming music to my car stereo.

I do agree, yours doesn't seem to drain while you are sleeping very much. Rare occurrence at least per the majority on Androidcentral.

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Agreed. They are all flawed when they don't meet the expectations of certain users.

post your heavy usage then? i'd love to see it

and i stream live tv directly on my phone WHILE browsing reddit. something you wouldn't know anything about with that iphone. lol yeah this doesnt use much power at all. absolutely clueless

https://imgur.com/gallery/wGXAc8X

"Try actually using your device for lots of emails, text messages, many phone calls, and several hours of youtube. That is all I did on mine."

so you mean like this youtube video below? lol. emails, messaging, youtube where it got destroyed by the note? ouch. stuck your foot in your own mouth eh?

 
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