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Dave245

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I’ve seen a few people complaining about the Exynos chip for those of us in Europe. I get the complaints, however to be fair Samsung have sweetened the deal, here in the U.K. we get a starting storage of 256GB and a lower price, also to jump up to the maximum storage of 512GB it only costs an extra £100, that’s pretty good considering Apple’s prices for iPhone storage.
 

SDColorado

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Really intrigued by the Fold series, but the durability still isn't there for me, I live by the beach and work in a lot of areas full of dust and grit, plus they haven't really had any sales or tradein deals for the Fold. But this Note 20 might be my last Note depending on how the Fold 3 turns out, don't see the point in carrying a big phone when you can get something like the Fold with an even larger screen but smaller footprint.
I will probably be ready by the time they release the Fold 3 or 4. Fold 2 addresses some glaring issues, but there are still some that remain. It is headed in the right direction though.

I will see after a couple years with the Galaxy Note 20 Ultra where Samsung's at with the Fold.

 
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Zito Abroad

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But the complaints are valid. There are actually hard data in benchmarks and tests showing the inferior performance of the Exynos 990. Some benches even showed the 990 is not any faster than even SD845/855, let alone SD865+.

It's one thing if Samsung delegates the Exynos version into a lower tier price point, like for a Note 20 Lite. But they are charging consumers the same premium as the SD865+ version. Worse, even S Korean version use the Snapdragon model. That shows how "confident" Samsung is on their own chip that they don't even want to use it domestically.

I agree there is a measurable difference in performance between the two processors, but I also believe, NOBODY, would notice the difference in real life everyday usage. Think of it this way, would the average user notice the difference between the i3 and i9? Nope. When it comes to computers and especially phones, the average user takes pics, uses a few office apps, checks social media, surfs the net, and plays a few games. None of that will show the difference in the two processors while performing those tasks. Put it this way, the Exynos Note 20 ultra gets a base storage of 256GB compared to the 128GB Snapdragon. In Canada, we get the Snapdragon. If I had a choice, I'd take the Exynos with the extra storage hands down. Not a doubt in my mind the average user will make more use of the extra storage, over the extra bit of measurable horsepower.

I got an actual real life example of how people swear they see the difference, but really don't. My buddy loves his S20 Ultra with 120Hz. When I asked to see the difference in the 120Hz, I switched it back to 60Hz, and put it on full rez. He didn't notice the difference until I told him a few days later.
 
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Healer Flame

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yui4

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Resistance was futile
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SteveJUAE

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I will probably be ready by the time they release the Fold 3 or 4. Fold 2 addresses some glaring issues, but there are still some that remain. It is headed in the right direction though.

I will see after a couple years with the Galaxy Note 20 Ultra where Samsung's at with the Fold.

I watched this clip a few days back, guy just trying a different angle for likes IMO

Don't see him complaining every other slab phone has 2 cameras

The big problem is length of this clip to explain a couple of personal gripes vs a phone that's not released LOL
 

mjschabow

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Mine is coming Wednesday! Still not sure if I want to sell my Apple stuff but having an iPhone 11 for work makes it a little easier.
 

yui4

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Mine is coming Wednesday! Still not sure if I want to sell my Apple stuff but having an iPhone 11 for work makes it a little easier.
I’ll be selling my 11 pro max in a month or so, I usually do when the new iPhone is announced to maximise resale. The release of the note 20 has worked nice around that plan
 
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mjschabow

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I’ll be selling my 11 pro max in a month or so, I usually do when the new iPhone is announced to maximise resale. The release of the note 20 has worked nice around that plan

Yeah I’m thinking if I sell mine now and then use the Note for a couple months and then see where I’m at when the iPhone 12 Pro is released, then at least I can just sell the Note and not lose a crazy amount of resale value.
 
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SDColorado

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I watched this clip a few days back, guy just trying a different angle for likes IMO

Don't see him complaining every other slab phone has 2 cameras

The big problem is length of this clip to explain a couple of personal gripes vs a phone that's not released LOL
I don't think he was complaining so much about the number of cameras, it was more about the configuration of them. The device has 3 cameras, but you can only make use of 1 at any given time. Compared with the Leica where you could use all 3 cameras much as you can with the S or Note series. I think it is a valid argument. I think there is still some evolution in the design that we will see happen in the next version or 2.

I just plan to hold out another version or two to find out. The Note 20 Ultra will last me at last until Galaxy Fold 3 is released :)
 

bbs008

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decided to get the note 20 ultra from my s20 ultra .. couldnt resist lol.. BUT im only gonna end up paying like $50 lol so worth i guess?
 
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Fernandez21

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I will probably be ready by the time they release the Fold 3 or 4. Fold 2 addresses some glaring issues, but there are still some that remain. It is headed in the right direction though.

I will see after a couple years with the Galaxy Note 20 Ultra where Samsung's at with the Fold.

He does bring up some interesting points, though I do like the idea of the main display being protected, if you drop and break the outer display, the inside one would still be in one piece.
 
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Shanghaichica

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Apr 8, 2013
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Ok. I’ve had enough. Apple are clearly trying to force me to use Apple Music and won’t let me have my own music on my phone. I synced it all to iTunes again on Thursday and it’s deleted it all again. What’s the point if I can’t even have my own music on my own phone.
 

The Game 161

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Dec 15, 2010
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Yeah I’m thinking if I sell mine now and then use the Note for a couple months and then see where I’m at when the iPhone 12 Pro is released, then at least I can just sell the Note and not lose a crazy amount of resale value.

I would say that’s the best bet, for me I think I would struggle going from 120hz to 60hz. I can’t imagine there being much to make me switch back to iPhone this year. Even next year it’s said to be pro motion but more of an a year so will see
 

The Game 161

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Ok. I’ve had enough. Apple are clearly trying to force me to use Apple Music and won’t let me have my own music on my phone. I synced it all to iTunes again on Thursday and it’s deleted it all again. What’s the point if I can’t even have my own music on my own phone.

I’ve moved to Spotify. Wife has a family membership so it’s free to use that lol but I have found the selection to find more music is better on Spotify. Although it’s not surprise music wise on iPhone for Spotify isn’t as loud as Apple Music. Likely a limitation
 
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tbayrgs

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Ok. I’ve had enough. Apple are clearly trying to force me to use Apple Music and won’t let me have my own music on my phone. I synced it all to iTunes again on Thursday and it’s deleted it all again. What’s the point if I can’t even have my own music on my own phone.

Take this advice with a grain of salt as 1) I’m subscribed to Apple Music and 2) I’m on iOS 14 so I’m not sure if the menu options change under both of those conditions.

In Settings > Music, do you have the options to Sync Library and Optimize Storage (under the Downloads subsection)? Not sure if it makes a difference but if you see those AND they are presently both turned on, try turning them off.

Not sure if it’ll help but they’re the only settings I could foresee causing that problem for you. Otherwise, I genuinely think it might be a bug because I only this past 6 months started subscribing to Apple Music and had previously done the same as you—synced my own personal music library to my iPhone without the unfortunate issue you’re experiencing.
 

mjschabow

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I would say that’s the best bet, for me I think I would struggle going from 120hz to 60hz. I can’t imagine there being much to make me switch back to iPhone this year. Even next year it’s said to be pro motion but more of an a year so will see
I don't know. I had people in the thread about it telling me it's not a big deal.
 
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