Phones Samsung Galaxy S10

[co.ag.2005]

For a $1200 phone here i would expect better myself, no wonder Samsung don't have a 14 day return policy like apple, there would a lot going back.
yeah yeah no need to say its built into apples price, but at least you get to try it first before excepting the compromises.

Samsung does have a 14 day return window where I'm at. I've returned phones to them before inside that window no questions asked

 

[Cladster]

Samsung does have a 14 day return window where I'm at. I've returned phones to them before inside that window no questions asked

they do here but not if opened.

 

[co.ag.2005]

I’ve not had too much time with it properly, there’s so many apps and settings to sort out. Which takes ages having to manually log into everything (that’s where iOS keychain always comes in handy with iDevices).

Initial impressions tell me it’s a fantastic phone. So many features it will take a while to get it all exactly how I want it. Screen is fantastic as expected. I love my XS Max but spending so much on a phone, I want more options and it’s not taken me too long to miss the features & customisations of Android.

The camera is always one of the most important things to me because I travel & take thousands. I knew it wouldn’t be as good as a Pixel and as I’ve said many times, I’ve always found the front camera lacking on anything other than an iPhone or Pixel. But you can’t have everything and the amount of features are always the biggest draw for the S & Note range. And the camera is still very good though.

It does feel a little narrow and lighter than expected (got the 512gb ceramic model) but that’s something I’ll quickly adjust to. The worst thing so far is the FPS, which is too hit and miss for me at the moment. And I do love tapping my iPhone to view notifications when it sees my face.

I bought the official red leather case which I wasn’t going to use until I knew I was keeping it. But couldn’t get the cheaper clear one I wanted until Sunday so I opened it. Darker than it looks online (which I prefer), really like it.

Couple of quick pics in the case. It looks a lot brighter with the flash but it’s syncing media & can’t move into the light! This post probably reads a little rambling. Oh well! View attachment 825433 View attachment 825434

How's that case? I saw it on samsung's website and was curious how good it is. Have you ever used Apple's leather cases? I wonder how it compares. I love their leather cases
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they do here but not if opened.

Really? That stinks. Apple and Samsung both have a 14 day window here and basically no questions asked returns. Obviously still has to be in new condition

 

[slitherjef]

I've caught the later parts of this thread, mostly from the official announcement of the device(s). I'm mostly curious how people are digging the device and because I'm wondering how some of these features and design will make it to the note 10 or X which sadly I can see tipping at least a 1200 to 1500 price tag

 

[michael9891]

How's that case? I saw it on samsung's website and was curious how good it is. Have you ever used Apple's leather cases? I wonder how it compares. I love their leather cases
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Really? That stinks. Apple and Samsung both have a 14 day window here and basically no questions asked returns. Obviously still has to be in new condition

I always use Apple leather cases which I love. The Samsung ones feel a lot thinner & lighter in comparison. I was a little worried I’d wasted my money when I first felt it. But they still have decent hard corners, soft material lining and raised edges for protection. A little slippery but that will probably change over time. If you like simple leather cases, I think they’re worth it. And much cheaper than Apple ones!

 

[co.ag.2005]

I always use Apple leather cases which I love. The Samsung ones feel a lot thinner & lighter in comparison. I was a little worried I’d wasted my money when I first felt it. But they still have decent hard corners, soft material lining and raised edges for protection. A little slippery but that will probably change over time. If you like simple leather cases, I think they’re worth it. And much cheaper than Apple ones!

Awesome, thanks! Well, both are $50 here so not much of a differentiation here

 

[torana355]

For people having issues with the FPS

 

[1050792]

I've caught the later parts of this thread, mostly from the official announcement of the device(s). I'm mostly curious how people are digging the device and because I'm wondering how some of these features and design will make it to the note 10 or X which sadly I can see tipping at least a 1200 to 1500 price tag

The Note 10 will have most of the S10 features plus an updated SPen and bigger battery life. Nothing really major if you don't care about the Note line. It's a more productive device.

 

[mib1800]

The Note 10 will have most of the S10 features plus an updated SPen and bigger battery life. Nothing really major if you don't care about the Note line. It's a more productive device.

6.7in screen in the same size as note9

 

[1050792]

6.7in screen in the same size as note9

If you mean by that the battery won't get bigger because of screen size, we never know the engineering they might do inside.

 

[nviz22]

Damn, two major bugs right now. My mobile data shut itself off and struggled for a bit. Another bug I get is when I restart the phone. It says Android P is starting up. Tried a family member's Note 9 on Pie and no issues on their end. Time for the ole factory data reset.

 

[SteveJUAE]

It's the best phone I've ever used. I think people are just being critical and pointing out minor flaws. The fps will improve with use and updates. Overall it's an awesome phone!

I think there are a few misunderstands with the FPS and many are to do with personal preferences

Lets face it if we were in the wild west shoot out with our phones on our hips the S9's/Note 9 would leave your opponent long dead as by the time you have grabbed your S9 and got as far as waist high it's on and unlocked and firing where say the Iphone your still raising it to your face

Maybe a slightly unreal scenario but it does translate to those that carry phones in their trouser/pants pocket or handbag/purse

Similarly if you want an unlocked sneak peek at your phone under the table or in your purse it's a thumbs up for FPS over face recognition

For those that use their phones on or in bikes cars etc maybe there more pro's to front FPS's over rear FPS or FR

Of course FR excels for those occasions when say your wearing gloves and it's security is one of the best, but it's not always about security as FR is on so few laptops for example and none on MBP/Airs etc . FR also is fractionally more convenient for in app use and maybe where Samsung should of kept Iris Scan

Then there is the whole table top usage argument where front FPS is more advantageous

However I think we are seeing some mixed feedback hear, ignoring screen protectors and update

The new under screen FPS is suppose to be more secure so until muscle memory kicks in the comparison on touch/feel to old FPS will seem different

Maybe the added security currently interferes with reliability and a software tweak will improve this or it's just part of the S10's learning curve as it does seem to improve over a day or so but that could be more the user than the phone

The added security can also make some digit prints easier or harder to recognise, I certainly see a difference between my index finger that's almost instant on a light touch where my thumb needs slightly more pressure to get the same results.

That's not the S10's fault it's just picking up my imperfections LOL

Of course ex Iphone FR owners may find the transition to FPS differently but you have to look at your usage pattern on how you first hold your phone from pocket, purse, table etc and the single on and unlock

I think many will be surprised how trivial comparisons are, FR is and is more of a deliminator on branding than an outright advantage for many.

FPS are likely to cover more scenarios for most but at times FR is nicer

 

[torana355]

I think there are a few misunderstands with the FPS and many are to do with personal preferences

Lets face it if we were in the wild west shoot out with our phones on our hips the S9's/Note 9 would leave your opponent long dead as by the time you have grabbed your S9 and got as far as waist high it's on and unlocked and firing where say the Iphone your still raising it to your face

Maybe a slightly unreal scenario but it does translate to those that carry phones in their trouser/pants pocket or handbag/purse

Similarly if you want an unlocked sneak peek at your phone under the table or in your purse it's a thumbs up for FPS over face recognition

For those that use their phones on or in bikes cars etc maybe there more pro's to front FPS's over rear FPS or FR

Of course FR excels for those occasions when say your wearing gloves and it's security is one of the best, but it's not always about security as FR is on so few laptops for example and none on MBP/Airs etc . FR also is fractional more convenient for in app use and maybe where Samsung should of kept Iris Scan

Then there is the whole table top usage argument where front FPS is more advantageous

However I think we are seeing some mixed feedback hear, ignoring screen protectors and update

The new under screen FPS is suppose to be more secure so until muscle memory kicks in the comparison on touch/feel to old FPS will seem different

Maybe the added security currently interferes with reliability and a software tweak will improve this or it's just part of the S10's learning curve as it does seem to improve over a day or so but that could be more the user than the phone

The added security can also make some digit prints easier or harder to recognise, I certainly see a difference between my index finger that's almost instant on a light touch where my thumb needs slightly more pressure to get the same results.

That's not the S10's fault it's just picking up my imperfections LOL

Of course ex Iphone FR owners may find the transition to FPS differently but you have to look at your usage pattern on how you first hold your phone from pocket, purse, table etc and the single on and unlock

I think many will be surprised how trivial comparisons are, FR is and is more of a deliminator on branding than an outright advantage for many.

FPS are likely to cover more scenarios for most but at times FR is nicer

Ideally you want an In-screen FPS and Face ID. However the FaceId requires more sensors on the front of the phone and therefore a bigger notch/cutout. As for the in screen FPS issues I think it will just take people time to adjust. It works perfectly for me so i'm very happy with it. Im also sure Samsung will fine tune it over time with updates, we have to remember this is first Get and it isn't going to be perfect right away. Im using it in conjunction with the facial recognition and its pretty seamless.

The phone is extremely fast, has amazing battery life (I'm getting 8 hours SOT on average on LTE) The screen is incredible and is calibrated very well this time in comparison to the S9. One UI is more refined then previous efforts by Samsung and works even better in conjunction with a decent launcher like Nova. The Camera setup is arguably the most versatile of any Smartphone on the market with that wide angle lens adding a whole new dimension to your shots. The integration with the Galaxy Buds is very Apple like while still giving the option of the headphone jack. Lastly the Cutout is well implemented and adds character to the phone.

Im sure there are going to be people who just prefer iOS and the iPhone and who prefer FaceID and thats fine, its great that we have a so many great choices. I just hope people don't read this thread and think the S10 is a bad phone because I think its the best android phone you can buy at this point in time.

 

[1050792]

I remember the iPhone 5S FPS being slow as heck, most of the times it wouldn't recognize the fingerprint. Same for the Galaxy S5/Note4 fingerprint sensor that would only work by sliding the index finger (I actually could make it work with my thumb).
Things get better overtime and improve, this is the first step in the right direction of on screen fingerprint sensors.

 

[Awesomesince86]

People also need to understand that hardware for the FPS isn't necessarily the problem so I'd expect the FPS to get better in the first couple of security updates.

 

[SteveJUAE]

Ideally you want an In-screen FPS and Face ID. However the FaceId requires more sensors on the front of the phone and therefore a bigger notch/cutout. As for the in screen FPS issues I think it will just take people time to adjust. It works perfectly for me so i'm very happy with it. Im also sure Samsung will fine tune it over time with updates, we have to remember this is first Get and it isn't going to be perfect right away. Im using it in conjunction with the facial recognition and its pretty seamless.

The phone is extremely fast, has amazing battery life (I'm getting 8 hours SOT on average on LTE) The screen is incredible and is calibrated very well this time in comparison to the S9. One UI is more refined then previous efforts by Samsung and works even better in conjunction with a decent launcher like Nova. The Camera setup is arguably the most versatile of any Smartphone on the market with that wide angle lens adding a whole new dimension to your shots. The integration with the Galaxy Buds is very Apple like while still giving the option of the headphone jack. Lastly the Cutout is well implemented and adds character to the phone.

Im sure there are going to be people who just prefer iOS and the iPhone and who prefer FaceID and thats fine, its great that we have a so many great choices. I just hope people don't read this thread and think the S10 is a bad phone because I think its the best android phone you can buy at this point in time.

I agree, the problem is many seem to think there is not enough upbeat replies here the trouble is with that it just bring out the worst in so many who have other preferences especially in OS's

So many nitpicks are preferential and often nothing to do with S10's or just users learning curves

I certainly think it's the best all round full featured smart phone currently

 

[nviz22]

People also need to understand that hardware for the FPS isn't necessarily the problem so I'd expect the FPS to get better in the first couple of security updates.

There are so many updates you can put into a system for a first gen though. At least by using the feature right now, the Note 10 might be refined a bit. But I wouldn't expect overhauls until the S11 series.

 

[Geert76]

so on one hand with got the ''honeymoon phasers'' and the other hand the ''nitpickers''

They are both interesting to read.

In a few hours I am finally able to pick up my S10 from the DHL pickup point

 

[jamezr]

Big software update....

 

[SteveJUAE]

There are so many updates you can put into a system for a first gen though. At least by using the feature right now, the Note 10 might be refined a bit. But I wouldn't expect overhauls until the S11 series.

Based on what assumption Who says there is a problem with the hardware

We have no idea at what tolerance level Samsung has set for recognition, simplistically this could be lowered to a point that waving a stick at the FPS would unlock

We can only assume that if based on too much negative feedback Samsung may refine the criteria and other factors to increase users experience , it's likely this can be achieved software, if there is a problem even with 1st gen

What comes in S11's and onwards is anyone's guess as most components in most phones always progress with each release

 

[Geert76]

by the way, kuddos to almost all people in this particular topic being open minded to both iOS and S10/Android/One UI instead of bashing one or the other.

I have a feeling most of you're really open minded people trying to help eachother as much as possible.

There are tons of topics here at macrumors I dont feel happy reading.

thumbs up for you guys (and girls ofcourse )!

edit: If any of you guys are visiting Amsterdam in the future (well, only Spring and Summer actually , the other 2 seasons is way to cold over here ), give me a shout and I'll take you with my boat for a nice canal ride trough Amsterdam to check out the nice spots to shoot some great photos

 

[Awesomesince86]

There are so many updates you can put into a system for a first gen though. At least by using the feature right now, the Note 10 might be refined a bit. But I wouldn't expect overhauls until the S11 series.

I imagine their will be at least 1 or 2 updates related to the FPS on the S10 .

 

[nviz22]

Based on what assumption Who says there is a problem with the hardware

We have no idea at what tolerance level Samsung has set for recognition, simplistically this could be lowered to a point that waving a stick at the FPS would unlock

We can only assume that if based on too much negative feedback Samsung may refine the criteria and other factors to increase users experience , it's likely this can be achieved software, if there is a problem even with 1st gen

What comes in S11's and onwards is anyone's guess as most components in most phones always progress with each release

The fact that it doesn't work with many screen protectors is a first-gen limitation. Yes, Samsung's curved edges do not help. But limiting people to either a Whitestone dome or plastic protector doesn't really amount to much.
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Big software update....

Is that the one w/ the Bixby remap? I just factory reset my phone, so I am going to search for the update much later on tomorrow.

 

[5105973]

I haven't put this phone down all night since I got in about half 5.

It's easily the most customisable Android I've used as Samsung bake so much of their own stuff on top of what is universally changeable for an Android device.

One thing that strikes me (and I knew this already), is how different iOS and Android actually are.
I think having used iOS for the last 6 months has underlined that even more.
They're completely different beasts, and if I'm honest I have found myself exhausted trying to get this phone into some sort of order that I'm happy with.

After posting about not being that impressed I literally found a groove pretty much straight after hitting 'Post Reply'.
I am really starting to enjoy using this now.

But I still don't feel satisfied. I think that's always been my issue with Android though - there's so many options it's sometimes difficult for me to settle. Whereas with iPhone, it kind of is what it is so I became accustomed to that and got on with it.

I am enjoying the choice I have currently though - a bit like a kid in a candy shop.

Well my Pixel 2 used to look so much like my iPhone 8 Plus in the way it was set up I'd forget which phone I was typing on and have to pull my attention back from my email or forum post to take a look. I had Snowball set up sort of like an iPhone with rows of icons and just a clock and weather widget. The cool thing about even Samsung is you can make it look really basic like an iPhone.

Once you do the deep dive into the settings you can leave it and forget about it. And you will have a phone that tries to cater to you and pamper you a little bit with extra information here and there customized to your day.

Just choose a non busy looking layout for yourself. I've seen screen shots of some very clean lean looking home screens.

Then there are people who run the phone pretty much in pure default mode. That would include my brother-in-law, who left iOS for an S8 that he got a deal on.

 

[SteveJUAE]

The fact that it doesn't work with many screen protectors is a first-gen limitation. Yes, Samsung's curved edges do not help. But limiting people to either a Whitestone dome or plastic protector doesn't really amount to much.

Whats 3rd party inferior products got to do with it.

Samsung gives you a solution in the box, if that's not your preference then wait for 3rd parties to catch up not Samsung

If this is all you can find to gripe about along with your wrong settings on whatsapp, your really clutching at straws to post such minor personal preference negativism

We wonder why some report not enough positive feedback I don't think we have to if this is the sum of - points on owning a S10/S10+