Going back to Apple when you learn from your mistake is pretty expensive. You benefit from Apple resale value when you try to get out of the ecosystem but Android/Windows resale value is terrible.
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Phones Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra
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Unless you don't see it as a mistake. If a person sells all their apple stuff, buys new stuff, and then feels compelled to buy all new apple stuff again....then that is there fault alone.
I have existed both within and outside of Apple's ecosystem to varying degrees (50% to 100%) since 2011. I never felt inhibited or like I am missing out. I still buy Apple's products when they are the best, and the same goes for other companies. There are so many cross platform software solutions that I very rarely use Apple's solutions, even when I am 100% integrated product wise. Even when it comes to messaging, I prefer and default to Signal.
All Pixel would need to do is make premium hardware to match the software and it would eclipse the iPhone IMO. But it sounds like Google are heading back towards the Nexus game plan of more of a mid-range device that focuses on software and user experience, which I am all for.
Battery life and more storage is all the Pixel needs for me.
Back on topic, what do people make of the single take (sure it's called that!) on the S20 range? Is it something you use much? As I see it's coming to the Note line this month.
Agreed although I'm not sure on the midrange point. Yes, you are absolutely and technically right that a snapdragon 765 (or whatever it's called) is midrange compared to the iphone and s20 internals....but does it matter? If google gives us a premium design, the reliable camera the pixel is know for, great battery, a great display, and plenty of ram and storage - all together at a price that can undercuts the above mentioned competition, who beats that? Unlike a laptop or tablet, even midrange phones are rarely left wanting for power. For example, the iphone is more powerful than the s20, but the s20 feel faster and more powerful. Why? Ram, 120hz display, and android os. I am a flagship guy....but if the pixel delievers on all the above, it will be hard to resist.
I agree. I've been saying for a while I wish Google would return to the Nexus template. I don't need glass and metal high end if the software is good, performance is good, and battery life is good. They should aim for being the best mid-range device in terms of cost
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I use it with my son. The little gifs and videos it creates are really good. The only issue is that it automatically adds this crappy music to all the videos.
You talk like everyone sees it as a mistake. I left the pure Apple ecosystem and never felt it was a mistake, I actually feel like I gained alot without many sacrifices. Most people just don't like change and are unwilling to learn new ways to do things.
I buy products based on the merit of that particular product, buying based on ecosystem is just far to limiting. I own a 2018 Macbook Air, a Samsung Note 10+, a custom built Windows HTPC, a Yamaha 3080 av receiver and a chromecast ultra. They all work well together without being locked into any single brand.
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I know it's going off topic but today, av products from different manufacturers all work well together. For me, it's about a product I like the look of and not what ecosystem it belongs to.
Oh and you slightly one upped me on the Yamaha, I have the 3070!
They have already done this...their Pixel A series phones are exactly this. Great camera, better battery performance, very good overall system performance all for mid-range prices.
I agree. I would like to see those improve a little with a slight price increase and just scrap the A model. Make a phone that competes with the standard model OnePlus rather than trying to compete with the iPhone or Galaxy lineups.
Not me. Keep the a model to compete at a low price, but actually go all out on the high end to compete with Samsung and Apple. The last couple of years they tried to undercut Apple and Samsung, but in the end they only sacrificed just enough that for most people it wasn’t worth it to get a Pixel over the iPhone or Galaxy simply to save a couple $100 bucks.
Start the smaller Pixel at $999 (like the iPhone and Galaxy) but actually have hardware worth that price and the software and reliability would be what differentiates it from the others.
And have the Pixel A series undercut the lower end iPhones and Samsung’s.
A while back I said Google should take one of two options with the Pixel. Either go back to the Nexus model of mid range hardware with decent specs and focus on software with a mid-range price. Or what you're describing, with his keep the two different models and make the flagship Pixel line an actual premium device by improving hardware, battery size, RAM, etc.
No mistake here. Freedom of customizing my phone to my individual taste. Not having the entire screen fill up when I get a video / audio call. Floating movable windows and chat heads for messaging. Can individually set the sound volume for various sounds. Dual windows to have more than one app going at the same time. This is just a small sample of just differences in just the phones.
Windows in general IMO is better than MacOS. For one you have a much wilder variety of programs that can be ran in windows and better hardware support. There is a reason apple has added mouse and trackpad support to the iPad...one word Surface. The Surface has started to eat itself into a very lucrative part of the market. So many people tried to bury the surface line but it has endured and it now apple sees that it underestimated it.
The Ultra was an absolute nightmare and is always on its way back. Sanding just sucks at camera software. Hate to say it but the pictures just don’t look pleasant when taking pictures of faces. I’m just glad I’m able to get my full refund. Unless they fix their software, I just can’t buy a Samsung going forward.
Thats why i won't buy media hypes anymore such as this re- Note20
Samsung Galaxy Note 20 to get HUGE S20 Ultra camera upgrade
The Samsung Galaxy Note 20 looks like it could sport the S20 Ultra's massive 108MP camera
The only hype that wasn't disappointing was Note10's.
I've been very happy with the s20 plus and Ive been getting surprisingly good pictures. It's doing much better with motion than previous Samsung cameras. My only complaints are shutter lag is noticeably worse than Pixel and iPhone and in low light Samsung oversmoothes everything a ton, especially faces.
Does the Ultra still suffer from having a really shallow depth of field and blurring out too much?
That's due to the larger sensor, and can only be fixed if Samsung re-introduced the variable aperture.
Had a feeling it was. The Huawei P40 Pro seems to be suffering the same with it's new, larger sensor.
I said before the S20 range was released that I didn’t think the cameras would be all that even with the hardware improvements. You can throw as much hardware as you want at it but if the software isn’t up to it then it’s not going to matter.
That being said I still have the regular S20. For me it takes more than good enough pictures and the rest of the package is pretty decent.
At last we heard some good news this year , this deal certainly will entice millions new buyers
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Hope its not only in USA
Samsung promises 50% cash back if you return your Galaxy S20 within 2 years
Gotta boost those sales somehow
Samsung rolls out 50% guaranteed buyback program for Galaxy S20 series phones
Samsung has launched a 50% guaranteed buy-back program to help boost sales of its flagship Galaxy S20 series phones in the U.S. The company will credit 50% of the phone’s full retail ...
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Hope its not only in USA
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So I just got my Galaxy Buds plus from my predorder voucher. Excellent wireless buds coming from their first generation IconX. I also got a kvadrat case which apparently is only available with the s20 plus. Its essentially the Pixel fabric case except I think a bit nicer. I would totally use it full time but it suffers from the same issue as the Pixel fabric case which is theres not enough screen protection. Their is a lip at the top and bottom but its so small that any significant drop would be bad.
You have to opt in at time of purchase. Those of us who already bought are outta luck on that. But it’s a sign of the times that these phone costs were on a bubble and that bubble has popped.At last we heard some good news this year , this deal certainly will entice millions new buyers
Samsung promises 50% cash back if you return your Galaxy S20 within 2 years
Gotta boost those sales somehow
[automerge]1586082520[/automerge]Samsung rolls out 50% guaranteed buyback program for Galaxy S20 series phones
Samsung has launched a 50% guaranteed buy-back program to help boost sales of its flagship Galaxy S20 series phones in the U.S. The company will credit 50% of the phone’s full retail ...
Hope its not only in USA
I am happy and now relieved I got the S20 for way under $400 after my Note 10+ trade in. It's a cute pink, I love it, and I can settle down for awhile. I don't miss the Note so much now that I am just using my IPad Pro handed down to me a couple of years ago and the Mini I got last year. So definitely not even looking at this year's Note.
Nor a new iPhone, that one is definitely out of the question. It will be interesting to see how things play out for Apple's iPhone lineup and sales. If a rabid phone addict like me is stepping back, well...
Oh and jeez OnePlus...did they pick a bad time to hit such a high pricing plateau? They were appealing for their mid range pricing. That was something we were somewhat lacking in the USA, a "sexy" mid range option. Now they're pretty pricey.
I was reading about the Pixel 4a. That looks really nice. If they were to give a decent trade in value on my 3XL so I could bring the cost down to under $300, it could be tempting to get the better camera and just see for myself how a mid range phone struts its stuff. But it doesn't mean it's feasible, just tempting. We'd be talking Mother's Day, my birthday, wedding anniversary, and Christmas gift rolled into one now. So it is fun to think about but not very likely.
Actually what I really want is a simple bottle of laundry bleach and spray bleach cleaner! 😅