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Tulani

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1400 votes and 4.8 out of 5 is excellent. This is the best rating for a major Samsung flagship.

You can also judge by the massive traction that this thread has gathered whether the participants or viewers are for or against it.

Samsung must have done brilliantly to amass this kind of attention.

Well done.
 

animalx

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Update now that the phone has gotten a pattern down on my usage. The battery life started out pretty good, and now it's gotten even better. I got 13 hrs of talk time today (yeah I take a lot lol) along with 4 hours of screen time, and got 16 hours on a charge. This is with adaptive refresh rate on at FHD+. No special managing of features. Just normal use.
 

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Dave245

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Wouldn’t touch a Samsung phone with a 10 foot pole 🤮🤢

Rather use a Nokia 3210 than use that garbage.
Then why are you in a thread that’s focused on a Samsung phone? I genuinely don’t understand. It would be like walking into a BMW showroom and telling everyone inside that you don’t like BMW.

I understand the Apple love, I’m heavy in the Apple ecosystem myself (iPhone 11 Pro Max, iPad Pro 12.9” and so on) but I also appreciate that Samsung have improved a lot over the years. The S21 Ultra looks stunning, One UI 3 looks clean and Samsung look to be catching up with Apple in terms of software.

even as an Apple user I’ve had my finger hovering over that buy button for the S21 Ultra.
 

Boham_CY

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Is it just me or was his reaction to the difference in pictures a tad dramatic?
Zooming in on the tiniest bit of shadow all the way in background and saying the difference was massive :p
 
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Dave245

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The boss shows a good detailed comparison and why I will not be buying one even though the tech is great

That is disappointing, I saw this video a few minutes ago. It will also be why I won’t be purchasing one. If there is no Note 21 line this year, I will be sticking with iPhone. Samsung need to sort this out and give us the Snapdragon chip as well.

This is where Apple does better, you don’t see one chip in the iPhone for Europe (ie Exynos) and another one for the US and other areas (ie Snapdragon). One chip for them all. C’mon Samsung, sort it out!
 

ratdog07067

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So I went to Best Buy last night and picked up a silver 128GB Ultra. Case and screen protectors are coming from Amazon on Sunday so I probably won't take it out of the house until then.

System takes up 23.11GB and after installing all of the apps I use I'm at a total of 34.52GB used. Since my music is all on Spotify and I don't download movies/shows I'm thinking the storage should do well for me.
 
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mjschabow

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So I went to Best Buy last night and picked up a silver 128GB Ultra. Case and screen protectors are coming from Amazon on Sunday so I probably won't take it out of the house until then.

System takes up 23.11GB and after installing all of the apps I use I'm at a total of 34.52GB used. Since my music is all on Spotify and I don't download movies/shows I'm thinking the storage should do well for me.
Oh yeah, unless you're carrying around huge files, 128gb should be enough for pretty much everyone.
 

The Game 161

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Is it just me or was his reaction to the difference in pictures a tad dramatic?
Zooming in on the tiniest bit of shadow all the way in background and saying the difference was massive :p

Tech tablets video

Shows some issues he’s had. Any kind of difference where the camera is worse on a different processor is bad no matter how little it is...
 
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Boham_CY

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Tech tablets video

Shows some issues he’s had. Any kind of difference where the camera is worse on a different processor is bad no matter how little it is...
Can't argue that the video kinda sucks, but it sucks on snapdragon too.
In terms of photos, I preferred a couple of the Exynos shots and thought they traded blows.

I'm not saying it's not cool of Samsung to do this, I'm just saying it's not a HUGE difference, if camera's are not your top priority you'd be perfectly happy with an exynos model :)

If cameras are I don't think either phone would be great as it still smooths and smears indoors
(tested on my dog)
 
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Is it just me or was his reaction to the difference in pictures a tad dramatic?
Zooming in on the tiniest bit of shadow all the way in background and saying the difference was massive :p
I’m wondering if people would notice in their day to day use that much of a difference like some of his benchmarks testing under extremes show.

My concern is not what these YT reviewers say but what the people receiving and using their phones in real world conditions are noticing. Of course people naturally want the best for their money and it’s galling if some regions get the better specs. But at the same time, if someone gets angry about this and says they are rejecting the Samsung and getting a Xiaomi or whatever else instead, they are cutting off their nose to spite their face. Because I’m not sure the alternatives are going to give them a better experience.

That being said, the image processing results shown in some of the Exynos samples look like they came out of a camera from a generation or two ago and not the cutting-edge performance we are seeing this year. There’s a certain way they handle light that I remember noticing in my HTC 10 and previous Samsungs. I would not be satisfied with them and if I already had an excellent smart phone in my possession, I would skip this generation of Exynos, too, unless I were getting a sweetheart deal. Or if I was taking everything the S21 Ultra has to offer in consideration with equal weight to camera performance.

Different people notice different things. I’m not at audiophile levels of discernment to analyze headphones, for example. But my eyes do pick up on the differences he’s showing in his comparisons. I think the differences will be important to some people.
 
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tbayrgs

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That is disappointing, I saw this video a few minutes ago. It will also be why I won’t be purchasing one. If there is no Note 21 line this year, I will be sticking with iPhone. Samsung need to sort this out and give us the Snapdragon chip as well.

This is where Apple does better, you don’t see one chip in the iPhone for Europe (ie Exynos) and another one for the US and other areas (ie Snapdragon). One chip for them all. C’mon Samsung, sort it out!
Well, Apple hasn't been immune from this sort kind of dichotomy either in the past. For a few years, certain iPhone models had a Qualcomm modem while others had an objectively inferior Intel modem. And IIRC, the difference in performance was quite significant.

Thankfully Intel decided to shelve their modem development (which Apple actually purchased). We'll see in the next few years if Apple can produce 5G modems of comparable quality to what we currently get from Qualcomm.
 
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mjschabow

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I’m wondering if people would notice in their day to day use that much of a difference like some of his benchmarks testing under extremes show.

My concern is not what these YT reviewers say but what the people receiving and using their phones in real world conditions are noticing. Of course people naturally want the best for their money and it’s galling if some regions get the better specs. But at the same time, if someone gets angry about this and says they are rejecting the Samsung and getting a Xiaomi or whatever else instead, they are cutting off their nose to spite their face. Because I’m not sure the alternatives are going to give them a better experience.

That being said, the image processing results shown in some of the Exynos samples look like they came out of a camera from a generation or two ago and not the cutting-edge performance we are seeing this year. There’s a certain way they handle light that I remember noticing in my HTC 10 and previous Samsungs. I would not be satisfied with them and if I already had an excellent smart phone in my possession, I would skip this generation of Exynos, too, unless I were getting a sweetheart deal. Or if I was taking everything the S21 Ultra has to offer in consideration with equal weight to camera performance.

Different people notice different things. I’m not at audiophile levels of discernment to analyze headphones, for example. But my eyes do pick up on the differences he’s showing in his comparisons. I think the differences will be important to some people.
Agreed 100%. Like does the fact that Snapdragon is a little better really make the Exynos a "bad" chip? I had no problem purchasing a Snapdragon version of the S7 Edge knowing that Exynos was much better at the time.

Speaking of, S7 Edge was such a good phone in that Silver color. All other phones at the time felt like the Liverpool soccer team in comparison.
 
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Agreed 100%. Like does the fact that Snapdragon is a little better really make the Exynos a "bad" chip? I had no problem purchasing a Snapdragon version of the S7 Edge knowing that Exynos was much better at the time.

Speaking of, S7 Edge was such a good phone in that Silver color. All other phones at the time felt like the Liverpool soccer team in comparison.
I love and miss my silver S7 Edge, but I do remember using it out in bright sunlight with the shiny silver front bezels was a dazzling experience! I needed my sunglasses!
 
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The Game 161

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Agreed 100%. Like does the fact that Snapdragon is a little better really make the Exynos a "bad" chip? I had no problem purchasing a Snapdragon version of the S7 Edge knowing that Exynos was much better at the time.

Speaking of, S7 Edge was such a good phone in that Silver color. All other phones at the time felt like the Liverpool soccer team in comparison.

I made the mistake of thinking it’s no big deal on note ultra and it was in the end. Battery life issues, overheating and worse performance. They also said camera was worse on exynos version

On my fold 2 it’s been amazing thanks to the SD875

While it does seem improved for £1150 I want it to the as good as the great reviews you seen on YouTube and on here for those who have SD versions

Fact is though I don’t need another phone anyway.

12 pro max
iPhone SE 2020
Fold 2

Is more than enough but this chip makes my decision easier

It’s a great phone for those in SD regions and I will still look forward to the thoughts and view las of people on here. Don’t need to own the phone to enjoy other devices after all
 

mjschabow

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I made the mistake of thinking it’s no big deal on note ultra and it was in the end. Battery life issues, overheating and worse performance. They also said camera was worse on exynos version

On my fold 2 it’s been amazing thanks to the SD875

While it does seem improved for £1150 I want it to the as good as the great reviews you seen on YouTube and on here for those who have SD versions

Fact is though I don’t need another phone anyway.

12 pro max
iPhone SE 2020
Fold 2

Is more than enough but this chip makes my decision easier

It’s a great phone for those in SD regions and I will still look forward to the thoughts and view las of people on here. Don’t need to own the phone to enjoy other devices after all
Haha yeah I'd say you're set. I usually only carry one but I do have an iPhone 11 for work. If I can find a really good price on the Pixel 5, I may consider it down the road.
 

The Game 161

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Haha yeah I'd say you're set. I usually only carry one but I do have an iPhone 11 for work. If I can find a really good price on the Pixel 5, I may consider it down the road.

Yeah the iPhone SE is my work phone and it’s pretty decent. Couldn’t use it as main phone though far too small for me But air pods switching works great and ideal for work calls.

Yeah pixel option has always interested me. 4a for the price is a great option and did think about picking one up
 
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It will be interesting to see the Pixel response to the competition this year. It really is a shame about the Exynos shortcomings because the S21 Ultra is a stunner this year.

I’m so disappointed mine is not arriving today after all. I didn’t think it would, but there was a sliver of a chance I’d have the weekend to set it up. Weekdays, I can end up with a lot of interruptions and crisis management over remote schooling and extracurricular snafus. Though the technical stuff falls to my poor overworked husband.

But my husband’s S-View Cover with S Pen just arrived! It is very big, but not if you think of the whole combo as a portable home office on the go. I used to carry huge folios and pocket planners that were definitely not pocket sized. And of course I could not drag my PC along with me. I would have loved a Samsung S21 Ultra in one of these cases when I was working. The time and work it would have saved me!

When I landed a new job as an assistant to a woman whose job sort of defied attempts at a title or description, my dad had bought me what is now very primitive but was at the time cutting-edge electronic rolodex “thing”. I thought I was such a hotshot for having it. lol if I could only have seen the future
 
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