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mjschabow

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It will be interesting to see the Pixel response to the competition this year. It really is a shame about the Exynos shortcomings because the S21 Ultra is a stunner this year.

I’m so disappointed mine is not arriving today after all. I didn’t think it would, but there was a sliver of a chance I’d have the weekend to set it up. Weekdays, I can end up with a lot of interruptions and crisis management over remote schooling and extracurricular snafus. Though the technical stuff falls to my poor overworked husband.

But my husband’s S-View Cover with S Pen just arrived! It is very big, but not if you think of the whole combo as a portable home office on the go. I used to carry huge folios and pocket planners that were definitely not pocket sized. And of course I could not drag my PC along with me. I would have loved a Samsung S21 Ultra in one of these cases when I was working. The time and work it would have saved me!

When I landed a new job as an assistant to a woman whose job sort of defied attempts at a title or description, my dad had bought me what is now very primitive but was at the time cutting-edge electronic rolodex “thing”. I thought I was such a hotshot for having it. lol if I could only have seen the future
Pixels are the most amazing and frustrating devices at the same time. If they had even close to the hardware that the S21 Ultra has, I would be all over a Pixel. The software is great, camera technology, etc. But I watched quite a few camera comparisons and with them not updating their sensor for what, 4 years now, what used to be the best camera is now sitting comfortably in 3rd place.
 
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maka344

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Pixels are the most amazing and frustrating devices at the same time. If they had even close to the hardware that the S21 Ultra has, I would be all over a Pixel. The software is great, camera technology, etc. But I watched quite a few camera comparisons and with them not updating their sensor for what, 4 years now, what used to be the best camera is now sitting comfortably in 3rd place.
3rd place 4 years on is still very good going.
 

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3rd place 4 years on is still very good going.
The problem with this is that it makes me worried they’re taking the same approach to their hardware that they’ve taken to all of their services. They get a product so close to being amazing for customers. There’s just a few moves of evolution left to do and they can claim perfection. And then they just coast until the plateau they’re on develops cracks. Then it starts to collapse. And that’s it, they wave you over to a new product and it’s got the same damn 80-90% “almost there” feel. And they just let it coast again as is. When they change something they change it dramatically but don’t address the things that actually needed to be fixed.

Over and over and over again.

I just don’t trust them. I’m frankly astonished we still see development on Android. I had thought we’d see Fuschia by now. I guess they decided there wasn’t anything to mine or extract from us in that. I don’t know.

One reason I’m throwing my lot in with Samsung is that Samsung has the means to form strong partnerships with more stable, reliable partners (or so I hope) like Microsoft and if need be, can pivot to their own mobile OS or have Microsoft roll something out for them.

I am just so flipping relieved I did not invest more time and energy in building more than one small play list on Google’s music service. I’ve got the notice I need to migrate that over to YouTube music before the deadline this month or I lose it all. Hah. I don’t care. My poor husband has extensive play lists with Google and he said their tool to migrate the list sucks and messed things up for him.

We have Apple Music and that will do.

I have my concerns about Google Photos. Samsung is discontinuing their own storage service and would have me migrate my backups to One Drive. I wasn’t going to do it because my photos already back up to Google Photos. But now I’m making the move to One Drive.

I am giving Google such side eye right now.
 
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Awesomesince86

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The problem with this is that it makes me worried they’re taking the same approach to their hardware that they’ve taken to all of their services. They get a product so close to being amazing for customers. There’s just a few moves of evolution left to do and they can claim perfection. And then they just coast until the plateau they’re on develops cracks. Then it starts to collapse. And that’s it, they wave you over to a new product and it’s got the same damn 80-90% “almost there” feel. And they just let it coast again as is. When they change something they change it dramatically but don’t address the things that actually needed to be fixed.

Over and over and over again.

I just don’t trust them. I’m frankly astonished we still see development on Android. I had thought we’d see Fuschia by now. I guess they decided there wasn’t anything to mine or extract from us in that. I don’t know.

One reason I’m throwing my lot in with Samsung is that Samsung has the means to form strong partnerships with more stable, reliable partners (or so I hope) like Microsoft and if need be, can pivot to their own mobile OS or have Microsoft roll something out for them.

I am just so flipping relieved I did not invest more time and energy in building more than one small play list on Google’s music service. I’ve got the notice I need to migrate that over to YouTube music before the deadline this month or I lose it all. Hah. I don’t care. My poor husband has extensive play lists with Google and he said their tool to migrate the list sucks and messed things up for him.

We have Apple Music and that will do.

I have my concerns about Google Photos. Samsung is discontinuing their own storage service and would have me migrate my backups to One Drive. I wasn’t going to do it because my photos already back up to Google Photos. But now I’m making the move to One Drive.

I am giving Google such side eye right now.

Fuschia is still actively in development, but nobody even knows if that was ever planned to replace android. We know for repositories that it has a UI that resembles something that a touchscreen device would use, but people saying it was an Android replacement I think were just jumping to conclusions. Also, its worth noting that Google constantly has things like that in development that never get anywhere near consumer ready. Sometimes they just have a new isea, run with it, and see if they can people maybe one or two pieces to incorporate into some of the existing products.
 
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maka344

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The problem with this is that it makes me worried they’re taking the same approach to their hardware that they’ve taken to all of their services. They get a product so close to being amazing for customers. There’s just a few moves of evolution left to do and they can claim perfection. And then they just coast until the plateau they’re on develops cracks. Then it starts to collapse. And that’s it, they wave you over to a new product and it’s got the same damn 80-90% “almost there” feel. And they just let it coast again as is. When they change something they change it dramatically but don’t address the things that actually needed to be fixed.

Over and over and over again.

I just don’t trust them. I’m frankly astonished we still see development on Android. I had thought we’d see Fuschia by now. I guess they decided there wasn’t anything to mine or extract from us in that. I don’t know.

One reason I’m throwing my lot in with Samsung is that Samsung has the means to form strong partnerships with more stable, reliable partners (or so I hope) like Microsoft and if need be, can pivot to their own mobile OS or have Microsoft roll something out for them.

I am just so flipping relieved I did not invest more time and energy in building more than one small play list on Google’s music service. I’ve got the notice I need to migrate that over to YouTube music before the deadline this month or I lose it all. Hah. I don’t care. My poor husband has extensive play lists with Google and he said their tool to migrate the list sucks and messed things up for him.

We have Apple Music and that will do.

I have my concerns about Google Photos. Samsung is discontinuing their own storage service and would have me migrate my backups to One Drive. I wasn’t going to do it because my photos already back up to Google Photos. But now I’m making the move to One Drive.

I am giving Google such side eye right now.
Totally understand your main points and agree. Google suck you in with top notch services and then retire them at short notice often leaving you in a predicament. I was thinking about the photo storage option the other day when setting up my new S21 - I use Apple Photos and have a shed load on there but have no clue how to cross platform them - not too keen on setting up a Microsoft account for one drive but it seems that Samsung is pushing One Drive as a service.

I use Spotify music wise so all good there.
 
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Lava Lamp Freak

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The problem with this is that it makes me worried they’re taking the same approach to their hardware that they’ve taken to all of their services. They get a product so close to being amazing for customers. There’s just a few moves of evolution left to do and they can claim perfection. And then they just coast until the plateau they’re on develops cracks. Then it starts to collapse. And that’s it, they wave you over to a new product and it’s got the same damn 80-90% “almost there” feel. And they just let it coast again as is. When they change something they change it dramatically but don’t address the things that actually needed to be fixed.

Over and over and over again.

I just don’t trust them. I’m frankly astonished we still see development on Android. I had thought we’d see Fuschia by now. I guess they decided there wasn’t anything to mine or extract from us in that. I don’t know.

One reason I’m throwing my lot in with Samsung is that Samsung has the means to form strong partnerships with more stable, reliable partners (or so I hope) like Microsoft and if need be, can pivot to their own mobile OS or have Microsoft roll something out for them.

I am just so flipping relieved I did not invest more time and energy in building more than one small play list on Google’s music service. I’ve got the notice I need to migrate that over to YouTube music before the deadline this month or I lose it all. Hah. I don’t care. My poor husband has extensive play lists with Google and he said their tool to migrate the list sucks and messed things up for him.

We have Apple Music and that will do.

I have my concerns about Google Photos. Samsung is discontinuing their own storage service and would have me migrate my backups to One Drive. I wasn’t going to do it because my photos already back up to Google Photos. But now I’m making the move to One Drive.

I am giving Google such side eye right now.
I sent Google a small list last year of things that I don't like about YouTube Music. These are small things that were present in Google Music that were lost in the transition, but they were things that are important to me. It's been at least 6 months since I reported them, and none of the items have been added.
 

5105973

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Totally understand your main points and agree. Google suck you in with top notch services and then retire them at short notice often leaving you in a predicament. I was thinking about the photo storage option the other day when setting up my new S21 - I use Apple Photos and have a shed load on there but have no clue how to cross platform them - not too keen on setting up a Microsoft account for one drive but it seems that Samsung is pushing One Drive as a service.

I use Spotify music wise so all good there.
Right now for photos I do use iCloud but I do like to be able to look at different test photos taken on different phones on the same screen. So I also feed all of my iPhone photos and all of my Android photos to Google Photos, and I don’t do anything complex so I’m pretty happy with Google photos. It’s enabled me to share photos taken on my Android phones with iPhone users. I don’t really think they’re going to ever yank the rug out from under us on Google Photos. I think the data they pull from that is too valuable for their other AI based products. At least that’s been my understanding of what I’ve read over the years.

But just in case, I will give One Drive a try. I’m not killing my Google Photos account but if Google themselves decides to do something crazy with it, it’s nice to know what my options are like.

I also have some photos saved over in Amazon photo storage but their storage cap that comes with my Prime account was not enough for my humongous library of family photos. Honestly I haven’t looked at my photos stored there in a couple of years. I really ought to check out what’s going on with that.
 

SteveJUAE

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If Samsung sold the factually less performing Exynos version for less, people probably wouldn't mind. Less performance, cheaper price, made sense.

But no, Samsung decided to make the lesser Exynos version as or even more premium than the Snapdragon version. That's Imo what irks most of us in exynos countries. Not only we get the lesser version, we have to pay more for it.
Maybe that's just Indonesia (due to local tax like UK VAT at 20%) in Malaysia it is cheaper by ~$33 and do not forget the USA version is not dual sim which is seen as almost mandatory requirement in the east

The Note 20U Exynos had even a bigger saving as it also had more ram and dual sim over the US SD version

So factually the US SD has less specs which is a deal breaker for many in other countries than US

These SD variants would not exist if it was not for legacy carrier frequencies and some obscured licensee reasons with Qualcomm
 

Tulani

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Maybe that's just Indonesia (due to local tax like UK VAT at 20%) in Malaysia it is cheaper by ~$33 and do not forget the USA version is not dual sim which is seen as almost mandatory requirement in the east

The Note 20U Exynos had even a bigger saving as it also had more ram and dual sim over the US SD version

So factually the US SD has less specs which is a deal breaker for many in other countries than US

These SD variants would not exist if it was not for legacy carrier frequencies and some obscured licensee reasons with Qualcomm
great point on the dual physical sim
 
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animalx

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I am just so flipping relieved I did not invest more time and energy in building more than one small play list on Google’s music service. I’ve got the notice I need to migrate that over to YouTube music before the deadline this month or I lose it all. Hah. I don’t care. My poor husband has extensive play lists with Google and he said their tool to migrate the list sucks and messed things up for him.
What was difficult about it? I'd been with Google Music from day one, and had plenty set up over there. I got the message to migrate, clicked it, and woke up the next morning with everything Youtube Music. The process couldn't have been any easier for me. Same thing with my lady, she migrated over overnight, and woke up with Youtube Music ready to go. It was set it and forget it for us. Did his migration fail or something?
 

5105973

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What was difficult about it? I'd been with Google Music from day one, and had plenty set up over there. I got the message to migrate, clicked it, and woke up the next morning with everything Youtube Music. The process couldn't have been any easier for me. Same thing with my lady, she migrated over overnight, and woke up with Youtube Music ready to go. It was set it and forget it for us. Did his migration fail or something?
I guess something went wrong, yes. We didn’t have time to discuss the details as it was a conversation in passing over lunch and he had to dash out for another Zoom meeting. But he said something got messed up.

I try to keep it light on here and just discuss my excitement for technology, but behind the scenes, so to speak, our Covid impacted lives are...I don’t even know what to say. So I won’t, this isn’t the place for it. And don’t get me started on my sister-in-law. (There’s not an eye roll emoji exasperated looking enough to apply to that person). So if something glitches and adds an extra ten or fifteen minutes of trying to fiddle to make it work, it can turn into one of those straws that break the camel’s back situations.

When technology glitches or breaks during a school day now it’s just...ugh.

And keep in mind we have advantages many families don’t. So my heart goes out to those families suffering far worse than mine. But anyway yeah we don’t need Google switching things up now and introducing another point of failure. I don’t know what went wrong in my husband’s case and I’m not going to ask! Just asking him about things that go wrong in a day stresses him out.
 
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Dave245

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Ok so my finger has been lingering over the buy button for a week or so now (S21 Ultra) however seeing the latest Exynos comparisons vs the Snapdragon I was put off. Today I have logged into my Discount Perks account and saw this. Is this a good offer or not?

Also the 512GB version with 16GB Ram is priced at £1,196.10

Given that the Exynos still isn't as good as the Snapdragon, but is improved over last years Exynos. Would you say this is a good offer or not?

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SteveJUAE

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Just curious what you are using all those smart tags for? I got one for free and can't find a use for it.
LOL

Only one is for me, just thrown in my laptop backpack the other 5 for my wife for her handbags that cost more than our phones and her flight case

There are so cheap at $19.5 to me the convivence is just throwing then in there and forgetting, than the hassle of swapping them about etc as we do not have keys or a car in KL

The wireless charger was free with the Buds Pro

I guess if your really stuck for ideas as the button is programmable you can use it to send a message to your phone eg "This phone is being tracked please call this number 555-5555 for a reward" :)
 
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yui4

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Ok so my finger has been lingering over the buy button for a week or so now (S21 Ultra) however seeing the latest Exynos comparisons vs the Snapdragon I was put off. Today I have logged into my Discount Perks account and saw this. Is this a good offer or not?

Also the 512GB version with 16GB Ram is priced at £1,196.10

Given that the Exynos still isn't as good as the Snapdragon, but is improved over last years Exynos. Would you say this is a good offer or not?

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It’s a good offer if you think you’ll keep it. I get the same discount but as mine is going back, the discount has meant nowt. Lol
 
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