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daveathall

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Curious question for y'all. Why do you "need" iMessage. Don't get me wrong. I like iMessage more than what Android offers, but since switching, I never felt like I absolutely needed it for any reason. I just text people now.
Truthfully? I'm exactly the same, I just don't see the magic in iMessage. I am the only one in my family with Android, my son, daughter and grand kids all have an iPhone and we just text. I can't see what I am missing.
 

mjschabow

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Truthfully? I'm exactly the same, I just don't see the magic in iMessage. I am the only one in my family with Android, my son, daughter and grand kids all have an iPhone and we just text. I can't see what I am missing.
Yep exactly. I will say though, I'm not involved in any huge group texts, so maybe that's why.
 
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keithop

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Curious question for y'all. Why do you "need" iMessage. Don't get me wrong. I like iMessage more than what Android offers, but since switching, I never felt like I absolutely needed it for any reason. I just text people now.

For me personally, most of my contacts use imessage by default which means they throw pictures/videos etc at me over imessage.. if I'm on an android, they come through as a picture message which is chargeable (stupidly).

There's a lesser problem which is when people see a green bubble they text less. yeah I know, could be a blessing ;-) but I don't hear from imessagy people nearly as much when they get a green bubble back. Stupid? yep.

If imessage stopped tomorrow and everyone used whatsapp or messenger or a.n.other I would be fine and I wouldn't care at all.

In the meantime I use bluebubbles which is work brilliantly but I'd love beeper.... applied weeks and weeks ago but nothing.
 
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Ludatyk

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Curious question for y'all. Why do you "need" iMessage. Don't get me wrong. I like iMessage more than what Android offers, but since switching, I never felt like I absolutely needed it for any reason. I just text people now.
It's not necessarily a "need" factor. I now decided to use BlueBubbles in anticipation of getting that invite from Sunbird or Beeper.

I'm not going to speak for everyone, but for me... it enriches the conversation shared between my family and friends. Let's look at it from the perspective of countries that use WhatsApp or Line app... I know initially the reason those countries switch were due to SMS fees, but nowadays its more to enhance your messaging.

But one key factor for me is being able to send full resolution photos.
 

aggie99

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Sep 23, 2016
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Curious question for y'all. Why do you "need" iMessage. Don't get me wrong. I like iMessage more than what Android offers, but since switching, I never felt like I absolutely needed it for any reason. I just text people now.
More than anything the convenience of media sharing. Football is starting back up and all the other coaches on our team have iPhones. I'm the one that messes up the group chats and makes it where we can't send full res videos, game film, etc back and forth. I know there are other alternatives but hard to ask everyone else to change just for myself. Also with wife and kids on the iPhone it sure is convenient to have airdrop and imessage as well. Using the 14PM the last few weeks has shown me just how much I prefer my S23U or Pixel to the iPhone. I have to have either of them with me as I just don't care for the 14PM for taking pictures and video, however, using the iPhone has also shown me how convenient some things are with iOS.
 
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aggie99

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For me personally, most of my contacts use imessage by default which means they throw pictures/videos etc at me over imessage.. if I'm on an android, they come through as a picture message which is chargeable (stupidly).

There's a lesser problem which is when people see a green bubble they text less. yeah I know, could be a blessing ;-) but I don't hear from imessagy people nearly as much when they get a green bubble back. Stupid? yep.

If imessage stopped tomorrow and everyone used whatsapp or messenger or a.n.other I would be fine and I wouldn't care at all.

In the meantime I use bluebubbles which is work brilliantly but I'd love beeper.... applied weeks and weeks ago but nothing.
Yeah I signed up for Beeper back in September and still nothing :confused:
 

mjschabow

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It's been about a week and a half since I got my replacement phone after I decided to drunkenly drop my first one. I am now convinced that the first phone I had for whatever reason just did not have a good battery. I'm now finally getting 10 plus hours of SOT on the replacement!
 
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furbzv1

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might have to get bluebubbles a go and only carry one phone from time to time- any other services that people recommend?
 

lyunmac

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S23 Ultra still my favorite phone so far. Love/hate the screen size lol. Appreciate that it's huge but damn it's annoying to kneel down to tie my shoes with it in my pants front pocket lol. I still alternate with my Fold 4 and appreciate both their strengths. Using each make me miss the other's features haha.
 
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Ludatyk

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More than anything the convenience of media sharing. Football is starting back up and all the other coaches on our team have iPhones. I'm the one that messes up the group chats and makes it where we can't send full res videos, game film, etc back and forth.
Have you figured out the Private API features under BlueBubbles?

I was struggling with it trying to decide why it wasn't working... downloaded MacForge and MySMBL determining which one could get it to work. But realized I was using the wrong MacForge version lol. I needed the one specifically for Apple Silicon (they had it in a separate tab).

It's been awhile since I've used iMessage on Android... last time I used it was with AirMessage, but BlueBubbles is great... kudos to the devs! I shouldn't have waited this long to use it...
 

Bkdodger

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S23 Ultra still my favorite phone so far. Love/hate the screen size lol. Appreciate that it's huge but damn it's annoying to kneel down to tie my shoes with it in my pants front pocket lol. I still alternate with my Fold 4 and appreciate both their strengths. Using each make me miss the other's features haha.
You only have to tie your shoes once a day maybe twice
 
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aggie99

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Have you figured out the Private API features under BlueBubbles?

I was struggling with it trying to decide why it wasn't working... downloaded MacForge and MySMBL determining which one could get it to work. But realized I was using the wrong MacForge version lol. I needed the one specifically for Apple Silicon (they had it in a separate tab).

It's been awhile since I've used iMessage on Android... last time I used it was with AirMessage, but BlueBubbles is great... kudos to the devs! I shouldn't have waited this long to use it...
I still haven't messed a whole lot with BlueBubbles. Been using AirMessage mostly, because lack of time and laziness....
 

Ludatyk

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I still haven't messed a whole lot with BlueBubbles. Been using AirMessage mostly, because lack of time and laziness....
Fair enough, but I highly recommend BlueBubbles... primarily for the read receipts, that was one of my annoyances when it came to using iMessage for Android.

Now there's send and receive typing indicators along read receipts.

might have to get bluebubbles a go and only carry one phone from time to time- any other services that people recommend?
There's really only two choices when it comes to iMessage for Android.. BlueBubbles or AirMessage, because there's a waiting list for Beeper and Sunbird.

AirMessage doesn't take much hassle to install... its a straight forward process, been awhile since I've used it though. BlueBubbles does take quite a few steps in order to get it working.... and then there's the option to enable Private API features (typing indicators, tapbacks), that's if you want to go through that hassle.
 
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SteveJUAE

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It's not necessarily a "need" factor. I now decided to use BlueBubbles in anticipation of getting that invite from Sunbird or Beeper.

I'm not going to speak for everyone, but for me... it enriches the conversation shared between my family and friends. Let's look at it from the perspective of countries that use WhatsApp or Line app... I know initially the reason those countries switch were due to SMS fees, but nowadays its more to enhance your messaging.

But one key factor for me is being able to send full resolution photos.
To send full res photos in WhatsApp just attach as document instead, this option has been around for ages :)

Sending as photos is for send/receive speed and cost for those on limited plans

This is another reason why Iphone/Imessages is simple not so popular around the world for those on limited budgets with the casualness many have on sending large files etc. Telcos like it as data plans have to be bigger and MMS costs in most places and so on, back up and storage has to be bigger, Apple like that. There are many hidden stealth costs in Iphone ownership along with generally a more subscription based offerings that seem to be taken for granted, if you can afford it.

Many countries offer data plans by the hour or day let alone per month to suit all budgets
 
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keithop

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Jul 22, 2002
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To send full res photos in WhatsApp just attach as document instead, this option has been around for ages :)

Sending as photos is for send/receive speed and cost for those on limited plans

...if the recipient uses whatsapp. If they're only on imessage, as is the case in many places, then uhoh.
 

keithop

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Jul 22, 2002
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What many places LOL this Imessages thing is mainly in US and even then although Apple has a dominant market share in US it is still only around 60%

"this imessages thing" like its a tiny thing LOL I just don't think you're able to understand that other people have a different experience to yourself... different contacts using different systems. If the majority of someone's contacts use imessage then it isn't so easy to just move to whatsapp!

For example a lot of people with school age children give them ipads without a cell number. iMessage just works for them as a family unit.
 
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keithop

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Well in other news, I've played with the s23u long enough, I need to factory reset it and use it properly now. Kinda scared :) first time doing this on an android an no idea what I'll lose and have to resetup.

Anyway, needs to be done to get rid of all the bits I played with to get used to it.
 

keithop

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Jul 22, 2002
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How do you guys gals feel about the security of these apps for iMessage?

hmmm yeah I know what you mean. There's probably some explanation somewhere of why we shouldn't worry but still doesn't feel great.

luckily anyone listening into my messages would be very bored very quickly :) ok I guess there's mfa codes if we're being accurate which is a concern.
 
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Bkdodger

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hmmm yeah I know what you mean. There's probably some explanation somewhere of why we shouldn't worry but still doesn't feel great.

luckily anyone listening into my messages would be very bored very quickly :) ok I guess there's mfa codes if we're being accurate which is a concern.
Yeah I'm a bit leery with it though I've not done enough research ...I really have no reason to join other than curiosity...I'm running iphone on separate line daily so I have my iMessages
 
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