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Dave245

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TMSC fabbed 8gen2 will have CPU efficiency rivaling A15, and GPU efficiency better than A16. The one who is slacking actually is Apple, which is why they use A15 on the iPhone 14. A16 offers almost no improvement (and sometimes worse) than A15 in efficiency.
But on battery life they are better. My iPhone 14 Pro Max out lasts my S22 Ultra unfortunately. Its not the worse battery life (note 20 ultra was far worse for me) I'd just like to see battery life around the same as the 13 Pro Max, or at least close too it.
 

ian87w

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But on battery life they are better. My iPhone 14 Pro Max out lasts my S22 Ultra unfortunately. Its not the worse battery life (note 20 ultra was far worse for me) I'd just like to see battery life around the same as the 13 Pro Max, or at least close too it.
The S22 Ultra has really bad efficiency because it used either the 8gen1 or the Exynos 2200, and both were fabbed by Samsung, which is really bad. They're at least 3 to 4 gen behind Apple in terms of efficiency.

That is changing thanks to TMSC. 8+gen1 made a jump, making it only 1 or 2 gen behind Apple interns if efficiency. TMSC fabbed 8gen2 made another leap forward, pretty much neck in neck with the A15 in efficiency, and its GPU actually is showing better efficiency than the A16. Apple really needs 3nm if they still want to lead the efficiency race.
 
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Dave245

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The S22 Ultra has really bad efficiency because it used either the 8gen1 or the Exynos 2200, and both were fabbed by Samsung, which is really bad. They're at least 3 to 4 gen behind Apple in terms of efficiency.

That is changing thanks to TMSC. 8+gen1 made a jump, making it only 1 or 2 gen behind Apple interns if efficiency. TMSC fabbed 8gen2 made another leap forward, pretty much neck and neck with the A15 in efficiency, and its GPU actually is showing better efficiency than the A16. Apple really needs 3nm if they still want to lead the efficiency race.
I guess we will find out in a few hours. Fingers crossed it’s a good one and we see some solid improvements. For me it’s battery life.
 

5105973

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I’m at the pediatrician waiting room still trying to pick a color. 🤣. I should be home in time for the event and preorders but who knows.

Who is making the chip, TSMC or Samsung or is it both and we get luck of the draw?
 

Dave245

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keithop

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I’m at the pediatrician waiting room still trying to pick a color. 🤣.

Well it's not really the done thing to choose a kid on that basis, you should really be returning home with the ones you have ;-)

I should be home in time for the event and preorders but who knows.

Who is making the chip, TSMC or Samsung or is it both and we get luck of the draw?

yeah very good point indeed. Let's hope it's consistent across the production and not a matter of luck of the draw... because I WILL end up with the rubbish one, it's inevitable.
 

Dave245

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I’m at the pediatrician waiting room still trying to pick a color. 🤣. I should be home in time for the event and preorders but who knows.

Who is making the chip, TSMC or Samsung or is it both and we get luck of the draw?
From that Tweet I just posted posted, it’s looking like it’s not a Samsung one and TSMC. Im guessing that’s good news??
 
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Technerd108

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everywhere is saying TSMC so that should be good if true.. not sure if they'll go into that much detail at the event but I hope so
That would be better. Although I don't hate Samsung fabs as much as everyone else seems to.

So when are these actually going on pre order today? Just checked shop app and nothing?
 

keithop

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That would be better. Although I don't hate Samsung fabs as much as everyone else seems to.

So when are these actually going on pre order today? Just checked shop app and nothing?

must admit I've never ordered samsung day 1 only ever apple... so I don't know! be nice if the order process goes live after the event but I'm sure someone will come along to tell us
 

Dave245

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I'm sat here waiting for the event to start. Hope it's a good one. Watching on my Tab S8 Ultra.

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majkom

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So oreorder bonuses are weak;( double double capacity and 100usd in case of but back and 10% samsung rewards I have nonuse for… so probably sticking with iphone
 

keithop

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ordered... black... decent tradein on my note10+ and double capacity which is ok for me.

can relax and watch the keynote now to see if I ordered a lemon LOL
 
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5105973

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ordered... black... decent tradein on my note10+ and double capacity which is ok for me.

can relax and watch the keynote now to see if I ordered a lemon LOL
How did you all order? I'm logged in. Can't do anything
 

aggie99

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I wasn't going to order but made the mistake of tuning into unpacked. Watching now and impressed with the camera improvements they are touting. Curious if the shutter lag is reduced from previous Galaxy devices. That's my biggest complaint. Now to decide which device to trade in 😂
 
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keithop

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I wasn't going to order but made the mistake of tuning into unpacked. Watching now and impressed with the camera improvements they are touting. Curious if the shutter lag is reduced from previous Galaxy devices. That's my biggest complaint. Now to decide which device to trade in 😂

I'm a big low light/night photography fan... so they've definitely got me interested
 
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