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Lava Lamp Freak

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That is very true. But some things like going into your dialer, or into settings, or the gallery the phone freezes for a bit and won't respond aren't related to apps.

I'm having a hard time believing the posts making those claims. I've not had even a single incident of lag or freezing in the dialer, settings, or gallery. It's just as smooth and fluid as iOS or any other Android device.
 

Yankee512

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I'm having a hard time believing the posts making those claims. I've not had even a single incident of lag or freezing in the dialer, settings, or gallery. It's just as smooth and fluid as iOS or any other Android device.
My s7 edge didn't do it at first either.
 

mjschabow

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I turned animations completely off. Not quite sure if I like it that way or not. It's interesting to say the least. Lol
 

Technarchy

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I turned animations completely off. Not quite sure if I like it that way or not. It's interesting to say the least. Lol

Pretty hideous without animations. Like Froyo level bad.

And I really like having access to a configurable resolution. I can crank up or down as needed depending on the task type and priority or need to give the GPS some breathing room for a bump in battery life.
 
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Cryates

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I just put animations at 0.5x and turned off hardware overlays. It's perfect after doing that.
 

DakotaGuy

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iOS couldn't handle uploading 3 videos to Facebook? That's some pretty major lag issues right there. :D

Unless I'm doing something wrong that's one thing I hate about iOS. If I'm uploading something or downloading songs from Spotify I have to keep the thing awake and that app in front. In Android the process always completes in the background. Am I doing something wrong or is this a multitasking limitation of iOS?
 
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slingshott

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How many of you have gone through the rooting process, if so was it worth it? Android just seems like so much trouble to me now with all the customization options. I don't want to spend an hour trying out different launchers ffs.
 

Yankee512

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Unless I'm doing something wrong that's one thing I hate about iOS. If I'm uploading something or downloading songs from Spotify I have to keep the thing awake and that app in front. In Android the process always completes in the background. Am I doing something wrong or is this a multitasking limitation of iOS?
Limitation of the APP not iOS. Some Apps stay alive.
 

Tig Bitties

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Pretty hideous without animations. Like Froyo level bad.

And I really like having access to a configurable resolution. I can crank up or down as needed depending on the task type and priority or need to give the GPS some breathing room for a bump in battery life.

Animations on 1.0 on a Nexus / Pixel look so beautiful and butter smooth. Going to none or .025 looks weird like your trying the phone to be something it's not.

Is the S8 not smooth at 1.0 ?
 

Technarchy

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Animations on 1.0 on a Nexus / Pixel look so beautiful and butter smooth. Going to none or .025 looks weird like your trying the phone to be something it's not.

Is the S8 not smooth at 1.0 ?

Mine remains at 1.0.

Frame rate is fine. Tried other settings but was not impressed by the results. 1.0 was the best to me.
 

Mxbzz

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How many of you have gone through the rooting process, if so was it worth it? Android just seems like so much trouble to me now with all the customization options. I don't want to spend an hour trying out different launchers ffs.

The average Android user probably has no idea what rooting is, and in this day and age there isn't much benefit to rooting your phone. There is no requirement to try out new launchers-- you are simply given the benefit if you'd like to change the look around.

Personally, I don't find rooting beneficial for my needs. You also wind up tripping an e-fuse that disables KNOX, a security element on Samsung devices. This bars you from using Samsung Pay (and Android Pay, among other apps) and nothing short of a modified ROM to trick the device of the e-fuse status will get these apps working again.

The average Galaxy user is going to be using the stock Touchwiz launcher and pretty much won't know half of the functions the phone is capable of. It's a blessing and a curse, as Samsung probably spent a good amount of time implementing all these features. But it also keeps the user in awe that their phone can do X, Y, Z.

In regards to Galaxy devices being choppy-- my S7 Edge is definitely a lot more choppier when scrolling through the menu and what not, but it's nothing to lose sleep over. As long as my apps launch, and my battery isn't draining, I'm fine with the occasional stutter-- I've got bigger fish to fry than to worry about dropped framerates.
 

SteveJUAE

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Just gave my DeX another play tonight. I found that Netflix app is not currently a full screen app for DeX although the Netflix menu window mimics the S8(S8+) screen proportions once the movie is playing it does become larger but only around one quadrant of the TV screen, Video from SD etc is full screen

I thought this would annoy, but after being stuck in this hotel room for 3 weeks using the TV like a 2nd monitor/station with Netflix, mail, WhatsApp etc on via my S8+ and DeX whilst playing with my laptop elsewhere is really quite useful
 

DakotaGuy

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To be honest even if you have an iPad or a Mac don't worry about trying out the S8 and leaving the "ecosystem" because to be honest the Google ecosystem will allow you to easily make everything work together just fine. I've been running Google Music on my Mac for years and it always syncs my iTunes between all my devices. I believe your limited to 50,000 songs in storage, but that should be plenty. Google photos gives you pretty much unlimited storage and sync between your devices works just fine. Google drive is awesome and even Google docs work well when it comes to simple office tasks.

All I'm saying is the whole "you must stay in the same ecosystem" argument pretty much falls flat on it's face anymore. In fact, I'll be honest that a lot of Google's services are superior to Apple's anymore. You can do a lot with them for free. I know everyone talks about privacy, but in the end I've never seen any cases where Google didn't adhere their own privacy policies. Now you might not agree with all of them, but if you read the fine print with any of these companies every time you install something you might be surprised what you find.
 

mi7chy

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Unless I'm doing something wrong that's one thing I hate about iOS. If I'm uploading something or downloading songs from Spotify I have to keep the thing awake and that app in front. In Android the process always completes in the background. Am I doing something wrong or is this a multitasking limitation of iOS?

Limitation of iOS. Apps get suspended in the background then killed from memory after 3 minutes so no background nor foreground multitasking on iPhone.

Android, on the other hand, can do multiwindow foreground and background multitasking like any modern desktop OS. For example, you can simultaneously do all these in the background like torrent a file, serve media to other devices, copy a file to/from another device with file manager, run file server, have active SSH, IRC, RDP, VNC, etc. On iOS you can't even do one in the background.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teeonsoft.ztorrentpro

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bubblesoft.android.bubbleupnp

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=pl.solidexplorer2

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.fun2code.android.webdrive

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sonelli.juicessh

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.countercultured.irc4android

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.microsoft.rdc.android
 
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Yankee512

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Limitation of iOS. Apps get suspended in the background then killed from memory after 3 minutes so no background nor foreground multitasking on iPhone.

Android, on the other hand, can do multiwindow foreground and background multitasking like any modern desktop OS. For example, you can simultaneously do all these in the background like torrent a file, serve media to other devices, copy a file to/from another device with file manager, run file server, have active SSH, IRC, RDP, VNC, etc. On iOS you can't even do one in the background.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teeonsoft.ztorrentpro

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bubblesoft.android.bubbleupnp

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=pl.solidexplorer2

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.fun2code.android.webdrive

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sonelli.juicessh

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.countercultured.irc4android

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.microsoft.rdc.android

No sir. It's a limitation of the APPS not iOS. Some APPS do multitask. This has been discussed in the past that is up to the developers to multitask.

https://developer.apple.com/library.../BackgroundExecution/BackgroundExecution.html
 

mi7chy

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No. It's an intended iOS limitation to favor running with less DRAM and smaller battery. For example, take any iOS SSH client and none will be able to run in the background without getting suspended then killed from memory after 3 minutes. Even the $15 Prompt 2 app which is considered one of the better ones can't overcome iOS' limitation. On iOS 6 and earlier it was 10 minutes but 3 minutes with iOS 7 and newer.

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/prompt-2/id917437289?mt=8

https://library.panic.com/general/ios-background/

How long can I stay connected when the app is running in the background?
We’ve designed our apps to maintain server connections for as long as possible. iOS policies permit up to 10 minutes of background time after the app is suspended or the device is locked. In practice this time can vary, but we request as much time as the system will allow.

When a background transfer is in progress you should see a notification to re-open the app before the connection is terminated. If this isn’t being displayed, please check to make sure that notifications for the app are enabled in the Settings.app.
 
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Yankee512

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No. It's an intended iOS limitation to favor running with less DRAM and smaller battery. For example, take any iOS SSH client and none will be able to run in the background without getting suspended then killed from memory after 3 minutes. Even the $15 Prompt 2 app which is considered one of the better ones can't overcome iOS' limitation.

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/prompt-2/id917437289?mt=8

You obviously did not read the link I provided. It is NOT a iOS limitation.
[doublepost=1494189127][/doublepost]https://blog.newrelic.com/2016/01/13/ios9-background-execution/ more info on how apps run in the background. It's up to the developer not iOS.
[doublepost=1494189318][/doublepost]"iOS restricts apps from running indefinitely in the background, and for good reasons. If an app isn’t active, then it shouldn’t be allowed to use an unreasonable amount of system resources, especially when it comes to data transfer. But as apps have become more connected to backend services, fetching data in the background has become more important for a good user experience. iOS restricts apps from running indefinitely in the background, and for good reasons. If an app isn’t active, then it shouldn’t be allowed to use an unreasonable amount of system resources, especially when it comes to data transfer. But as apps have become more connected to backend services, fetching data in the background has become more important for a good user experience."

That is for APPs that do not need to be running in the background and are not active. If an APP is active, it will not suspend it after 3 minutes and will continue to let it run as the developer designed it for.

For example, Amazon Music/Pandora/etc. All continue to play in the background because they are active. Any hiking apps also. iOS multitasks if the APP allows it. Please read how it works before saying it doesn't.
 
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MRU

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Given Google are essentially moving Android towards backgrounding & suspending apps in a very similar manner as iOS with Android O and with future android revs going forward, this 'already dubious' argument will be moot .... but I am sure some will still churn out the same old diatribes or concoct new ones to further their crusades anyway.


Regardless ....

Can we get this thread back on topic or do we need a moderator to come in and clamp down.

Back to S8 people, there are plenty of places to discuss iOS in other areas the fora.
 
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