How are they shooting themselves in the foot when the X was the best selling smart phone in the 1st quarter of this year?
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How are they shooting themselves in the foot when the X was the best selling smart phone in the 1st quarter of this year?
You've missed my point. Would you pay full release price for the X in August this year?
Oh definitely not. That's why I am picking up a 256gb model X for $930 off Swappa to hold me over till September.
How much are you expecting the phone to depreciate? I did the same thing in terms of picking up an older device to use for the next few months on the Pixel side. I got a refurb Pixel OG 128gb for $150. Hope to see good performance from it. So far, so good.
iPhones don't usually depreciate very much. Probably no more than $100 from the used price.
Apple not reducing price has something to do with that.
Yep, but I think you could see at least a $100 price point shave as the minimum. Eventual BOGO deals will not fair well for the resale market either.
I am hoping my Pixel will fetch me about a $200 trade in value from Google come October. Though I think you may want to consider holding onto the X long term if you see a minimal X successor.
You can buy new/unused iPhones here in New Zealand way under the Apple price, albeit, from resellers.
New 256gb X here is $2099NZ
On trademe.co.nz, a new 256gb X can be had for $1750NZ or a near new in perfect condition for $1300NZ.
Seems like normal depreciation to me.
But whatever floats your boat....
New 256gb X here is $2099NZ
On trademe.co.nz, a new 256gb X can be had for $1750NZ or a near new in perfect condition for $1300NZ.
Seems like normal depreciation to me.
But whatever floats your boat....
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I know the US has healthy respect and pricing for 2nd hand good, from personal experience but looking at simple outright costs opposed to special offers/deals that often have hidden costs and lock in T&C's
If we look at S7 you can buy an Apple S7 or S7+ for around $170 cheaper than release date but to be comparable with your release date IP7 you would have to of bought AC at $99 to offer same minimum one year warranty
So now your down to $270 and your device has to be in mint condition, less fee's etc for selling on ebay say ~35% down but only if you sell 6 months before next release, so what to use for 6 months ?
Apple current trade in price (worst option but easy) is IP7 $215 and IP7+ $290 so at least 50% loss or more if you factor AC in
Typical other trade ins fare better (Amazon, Walmart, Gazelle) where you are only likely to drop 35-40% (excluding AC cost) but you do not always get cash back and there could be other catches
Sure YMMV as you can find a special deal that suits you but there is often strings attached that are hard to value (hidden cost in carriers pricing) that make the trade in seem good on face value. If you wait until new release date you will probably loose another $100 due to everyone trading/selling at the same time
I would say Samsung are a good 10-15% worse than Apple from release date and a bit less if you wait a little while from release
Personally I always have a Samsung sim free no contract current release and a previous year as back up with no extended warranty. I just trade in the oldest for the new each year direct with Samsung trade in ~55% loss. So maybe I could of been $80 or even $100 better off with an iPhone but buying on release date you normally get an additional bundle with Samsung. This year it was a free wireless charging stand worth $80 and 15% off accessories
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Seems to be holding value better then some other phones released around the same time.
In which countries are they being discounted, I can tell you that down here in SA the S9s are definitely not being discounted.
Don't come here with your facts and logic! You are going against the narrative
Seriously now dude, stop it, you are ruining the narrative they are desperately trying to push!
FFR has a special kind of love for me, I'm good with it.
Yesterday a brand new sealed X 256 GB sold for $1641NZ, retail is $2099NZ.
I mean, that's good money and all but it shows this so called lack of depreciation is mythical....at least here in NZ anyway.
You can get most phones for a couple of hundred dollars cheaper than retail.
Apple isn't special in that regard, yesteryears adulation is over.
Apple make great products, there's a reason they sell so many but the fervour we used to see isn't happening anymore.
I guess people realise they are buying products and not magic anymore......
....Hence the S9 being the best selling smartphone for a bit!
Now that doesnt fit with the narrative around here, apparently Samsung sells a few flagships and the rest of the numbers are 50 dollar phones, lol.
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Returned it because the FP sensor was defective along with the battery being pure abysmal.
Thanks. So far so good. Only question is how healthy is the battery in the Pixel OG? I tried using GSam to get an idea; but no clue still. I can get about 4-5 hrs of SOT; which isn't bad considering the price and how easy it is to quick charge stuff.
It's a hold-me over device until the Fall when I see what the Pixel 3 looks like and maybe consider Apple one last time since it's about maximizing my $.
With an iPhone, I could swallow my pride (acknowledging iOS is it is what it is and will not develop at the speed I want) and possibly get an even better deal than going the Pixel 3. I know I can get about 3 good years from a phone with constant software support for about 5 years. It meets the basic needs I have and provides many wants.
Pixel though? I love the software stability. The hardware is simply superb for a 2 year old device. The OLED screen is quite nice, especially with brightness. I expect the Pixel 3 to be outstanding with minimal bezels, 3D facial recognition, better dual speakers, and the traditional spec upgrade.
I know what software platforms I can use without too many issues or complaints: iOS or Pure Android/Close to Pure Android (Moto, Nokia, OnePlus, etc).
When I sold my first X - it was new at £999 but it sold for like £650.
That's a huge loss.
Granted, it was 'used' and locked to Vodafone which isn't the most popular network over here in the UK, but that's some drop.
I honestly expected so much more, as iPhone's used to have really good resaleability. (That even a word?!).
Gone are the days it seems.
With that big of a drop, I would've forced myself to keep an X. I was pretty much locked into the X until I realized yeah the $ was too much of a luxury purchase. I loved that phone too. Didn't care about the whole Samsung advantages or the Pixel camera or any of that.
Amazing how many people will pay full price for the iPhone X right up until launch of the new 2018 model. On the internet + MR, 99.9% of us would never pay full price now for the iPhone X. Average consumer who doesn't care or know any better? They are still flocking to Apple stores and spending top dollar. Apple knows this and milks them. And why wouldn't they, I'd do the same if I ran Apple.
Well I had no idea the price was going to be so low when it sold on eBay. It was a lesson learned from me to use a reserve price as I didn't think the resale would take such a hit.
I wouldn't be surprised people on eBay do not sell at low prices (w/o reserved pricing) since they just promptly give the person a refund and not sell the item. It would improperly breach a contract and it's a low blow; however, most will not go to court to enforce an iPhone X sale off an auction site.
It's not my style tbh just a lesson learned.
I wouldn't do it because it's a stupid proposition to screw someone over. I remember I was victim of that when someone sold a brand new iPad mini for $150 64gb on eBay years ago. The online retailer didn't want to give me the product because they would "lose money on the product." Had to take a refund, but bad feedback reflected their deceptive standards.
I never use auctions without a reserved price. It's a costly way to protect a lowball sales price and not screw up buyers.