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NeonNights

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I just took off everything and and the Fold 4 really is nicer and a lot lighter to handle.

Now you got me wondering how often I really need the S Pen or kickstand. To be honest my 12PM and 13P were fine without kickstands.

I wish there was a good car mount for the Fold 4.
 

SteveJUAE

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I just took off everything and and the Fold 4 really is nicer and a lot lighter to handle.

Now you got me wondering how often I really need the S Pen or kickstand. To be honest my 12PM and 13P were fine without kickstands.

I wish there was a good car mount for the Fold 4.
I have had cases for my phones since 2004, just cant break the habit :)
 

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What kind of car mount are others using for the Z Fold 4?
I don't have my Fold 4 anymore, but I used a car mount from ProClip. They're expensive, but they're the best mount I've ever used. They're sturdy and don't block a vent or sit in the window. I'm a fan.
 

NeonNights

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I don't have my Fold 4 anymore, but I used a car mount from ProClip. They're expensive, but they're the best mount I've ever used. They're sturdy and don't block a vent or sit in the window. I'm a fan.
What was the deciding factor that made you go back to an iPhone?
 

sunking101

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I usually use a leather flipcase but the design of the Fold makes cases somewhat difficult.

The official Samsung plastic cases are nasty IMO and that stick-on front portion that most cases employ is naff. I can see that flying off as soon as the phone is dropped and hits the deck. For the moment I'm going naked but it means a whole new way of using a phone...

The S-Pen isn't an issue for me. I only ever used mine on my Note devices to extract text and you can do that from the gallery app now.
 

NeonNights

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I know I don't necessarily NEED the S Pen but it just seems like a waste to not use it, especially with the S Notes app.

I wrote down tons of work meeting notes with my various Note phones but now that I'm working from home I guess there's less need. In the week that I've had the Fold 4, I haven't really needed to use the S Pen other than testing it out. I still find it difficult to part with the stylus though.

Ditching the stylus would expand my case choices.
 

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What was the deciding factor that made you go back to an iPhone?
Put simply, I wasn't looking to replace the iPhone / iOS when I got the Fold. I was happy with and didn't have too many faults or complaints with the 13 Pro, which I had sold that to get the Fold. The hardware was so much fun and exciting to use, it felt so futuristic and unique. My main issue was One UI. Android itself is fine, I'd probably still have the Pixel 6 if it wasn't for the trash fingerprint scanner.
 

NeonNights

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Put simply, I wasn't looking to replace the iPhone / iOS when I got the Fold. I was happy with and didn't have too many faults or complaints with the 13 Pro, which I had sold that to get the Fold. The hardware was so much fun and exciting to use, it felt so futuristic and unique. My main issue was One UI. Android itself is fine, I'd probably still have the Pixel 6 if it wasn't for the trash fingerprint scanner.
Same here, traded in the 13 Pro. How are you liking the 14 Pro?

For a brief moment today I contemplated returning the Fold 4 and getting the 22 Ultra, but other than a better camera the 22 Ultra would be very much like my previous Note 10+ and I remember multiwindow was a tight squeeze on that display. Android and iOS both have their advantages but the extra flexibility and customization of Android fits me better. I am going to keep the Fold 4 (hopefully for a few years) and decided to ditch the S Pen and find a slimmer, lighter case. Reality is I don't use the S Pen very much, which is another reason going to a 22 Ultra would be pointless.
 
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sunking101

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Same here, traded in the 13 Pro. How are you liking the 14 Pro?

For a brief moment today I contemplated returning the Fold 4 and getting the 22 Ultra, but other than a better camera the 22 Ultra would be very much like my previous Note 10+ and I remember multiwindow was a tight squeeze on that display. Android and iOS both have their advantages but the extra flexibility and customization of Android fits me better. I am going to keep the Fold 4 (hopefully for a few years) and decided to ditch the S Pen and find a slimmer, lighter case. Reality is I don't use the S Pen very much, which is another reason going to a 22 Ultra would be pointless.
The S22 Ultra would be a step backwards in performance and not a whole lot different to the Note 10 Plus apart from the cameras. Even if you never used the big screen the Fold 4 is a noticeable performance leap over the S22 Ultra.
 
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Ludatyk

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Android and iOS both have their advantages but the extra flexibility and customization of Android fits me better. I am going to keep the Fold 4 (hopefully for a few years) and decided to ditch the S Pen and find a slimmer, lighter case. Reality is I don't use the S Pen very much, which is another reason going to a 22 Ultra would be pointless.
I was an iOS user for about a decade (original iPhone to iPhone X) and I’m never switching back. Don’t get me wrong, the iPhone is an awesome device… solid OS and Apple has an incredible ecosystem. But when it comes down to preference…. as you noted, Samsung/Android fits me much better as well.

3 reasons why I’ll never switch…. multitasking, sound assistant and notifications. Rather not go into detail with it because I’m sure you guys already know… but I highly doubt Apple add those features to the iPhone. I’ll most likely skip the Fold 5 and shoot for the Fold 6 (same way I did with the Fold 2 to Fold 4).
 

sunking101

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Has anyone got a clue as to how you change the SMS messages notification tone and have it different from other app notifications? It used to be easy but now it appears that you can't do it?
 
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Ludatyk

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Has anyone got a clue as to how you change the SMS messages notification tone and have it different from other app notifications? It used to be easy but now it appears that you can't do it?
If I'm not mistaken... shouldn't it be in the Sound & Vibration section under Settings? But in most cases other apps have their own notifications tones.
 

Bkdodger

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Has anyone got a clue as to how you change the SMS messages notification tone and have it different from other app notifications? It used to be easy but now it appears that you can't do it?
It should be same as Flip ..settings ..apps..messages .. notification categories .other .
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Ludatyk

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It should be same as Flip ..settings ..apps..messages .. notification categories .other .
Yeah, but doesn't that treasure notification tone you have selected is used with Sound & Vibration section under Settings? Or is that different tone?
 

Bkdodger

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Yeah, but doesn't that treasure notification tone you have selected is used with Sound & Vibration section under Settings? Or is that different tone?
I didn't change that one but you can change it to a good amount of different tones
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bgro

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Can anyone with a US model tell me if they can receive texts and calls on dual sims and then choose which sim/line they’re messaging and dialing out from? Reading conflicting info.
 

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Same here, traded in the 13 Pro. How are you liking the 14 Pro?

For a brief moment today I contemplated returning the Fold 4 and getting the 22 Ultra, but other than a better camera the 22 Ultra would be very much like my previous Note 10+ and I remember multiwindow was a tight squeeze on that display. Android and iOS both have their advantages but the extra flexibility and customization of Android fits me better. I am going to keep the Fold 4 (hopefully for a few years) and decided to ditch the S Pen and find a slimmer, lighter case. Reality is I don't use the S Pen very much, which is another reason going to a 22 Ultra would be pointless.
I’m liking the 14 Pro. I miss several aspects of Android, especially the ability to customize much deeper. I miss the sheer cool factor of the Fold 4, too. However, the iPhone is where I’m the happiest at the moment. Without a doubt I’ll be tempted by the Pixel 7 and / or the S23, might try them out for a bit. Who knows.
 
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aggie99

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I’m liking the 14 Pro. I miss several aspects of Android, especially the ability to customize much deeper. I miss the sheer cool factor of the Fold 4, too. However, the iPhone is where I’m the happiest at the moment. Without a doubt I’ll be tempted by the Pixel 7 and / or the S23, might try them out for a bit. Who knows.
Im kinda with you here. I LOVE the Fold 4. It's my favorite device by a mile. I still use it tethered by hotspot to my 14PM. But the camera on the 14PM is the best I've used and I've mentioned many times on this forum my need for iMessage due to my circle all being on iPhones. Also the ecosystem. I am in love with the Watch Ultra and I also recently bought a MacBook Air M2 which is my first MacBook since like 2008 and it has just been a joy to use. I love how the iPhone and MacBook work together. I can get that with my Fold and Tab s8 ultra as well but its not quite as polished.
 
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Zito Abroad

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This one's for the people that enjoy speed tests. I personally don't think much of them, but to each his own.

 
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SteveJUAE

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This one's for the people that enjoy speed tests. I personally don't think much of them, but to each his own.

I guess we can presume they are slightly better/representative than straight synthetic benchmarks :)

I have never let these influence my decisions or even worried about Snapdragon vs Exynos
 

NeonNights

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This one's for the people that enjoy speed tests. I personally don't think much of them, but to each his own.

Thanks for sharing and interesting test. Surprised that the Fold 4 won, not that it really matters as phones even 2-3 years ago perform fine today. We simply have more power than we know what to do with. That is probably why I grew bored of the iPhone. It wasn't due to slowness, each iteration just didn't seem like much of an upgrade anymore.
 
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kasakka

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Thanks for sharing and interesting test. Surprised that the Fold 4 won, not that it really matters as phones even 2-3 years ago perform fine today. We simply have more power than we know what to do with. That is probably why I grew bored of the iPhone. It wasn't due to slowness, each iteration just didn't seem like much of an upgrade anymore.
Agreed. The Apple phones I've had recently have been the iPhone XS and iPhone 12 Mini and the only relevant difference is the form factor. Both run fast and smooth. Unless you are an avid photo-/videographer or have very big hands then I just don't see any point in buying the more expensive iPhone Pro models when they don't really change the experience in any meaningful way.

I picked a Fold 4 a few days ago and while I am still in the "honeymoon phase", it feels like true innovation. Even just in software it has so many small things that let you make it more to your liking. The physical device is just right and Samsung actually considered the challenges of the form factor and figured out software solutions for them.

The split keyboard (and the sheer amount of configurability for it), having separate home screens for cover vs inner display, the ability to determine which apps continue when you fold the phone or not, all the ways to use the different cameras, Bigsby Routines seem like it can do a whole lot more relevant stuff than what you can do with Apple Shortcuts, one handed mode options, ability to control aspect ratio of apps, multitasking that puts iPadOS to shame and more.

While Android will never have quite the seamless integration of hardware and software, I feel that it's gotten a lot better over the years. Setting up the Fold 4 and the Galaxy Watch 4 I got as a bundle deal, I still saw a few too many "downloading updates", "restart phone" or "install this companion app" prompts but the flip side is that they are more flexible in expanding the capabilities whereas Apple relies on their 1st party software more and often puts limitations on 3rd party ones. I can't say how much more security this approach provides in reality or if it's just to avoid people falling for scam apps and whatnot.

For Samsung's built in apps the problem is more that there isn't a good tutorial for what does what. There's a whole pile of apps that might have functionality that you find useful but since many of them are not clearly named you have to try it to find out.
 
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