Your points are valid but you forgot the way better multitasking, much more RAM, S-Pen and removable battery etc on the Note 4.
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Your points are valid but you forgot the way better multitasking, much more RAM, S-Pen and removable battery etc on the Note 4.
RAM makes a big difference on Android, not on iOS. What's up with the RAM praise? The OSes handle the RAM differently!
I've had the Note 4 a month, and at no point do I ever wish I got the 6+.
Well, I did when I had a bad camera, but once it was replaced, I have been very happy.
The Note 4 is such a well performing, feature rich device, that I can't see, at the moment, how I would be better served by the 6+.
That said, I am watching out for the 6S+ this year,
Well, I did when I had a bad camera, but once it was replaced, I have been very happy.
The Note 4 is such a well performing, feature rich device, that I can't see, at the moment, how I would be better served by the 6+.
That said, I am watching out for the 6S+ this year,
That is exactly how I feel about my oneplus versus my iPhone 6.
Going back to the 6 just feels like I'm losing too many features.
Ya kidding me? My 6+ is crying out for 2 or 3GB of RAM. Apps and web pages reload way less frequently on my 1.5GB Android tablet than they do on my 6+. I can only imagine how much better 3GB of RAM would be on the Note 4 or especially Nexus 6 (which doesn't have Touchwiz robbing any memory).
I decided to get the Note 4. I'll get the 6S next year because undoubtedly it will have more RAM then.
I'll have my Note 4 Thursday, paid for over night shipping.
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I left a friends page open on Facebook all day on my Nexus 4 while I did other things on it. Late that night, opened FB again and the page was right there waiting for me to respond to the message. I can't do that on my iPhone. Apps reload after so long.
I'll have my Note 4 Thursday, paid for over night shipping.
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I left a friends page open on Facebook all day on my Nexus 4 while I did other things on it. Late that night, opened FB again and the page was right there waiting for me to respond to the message. I can't do that on my iPhone. Apps reload after so long.
Ram is a big reason I am passing on Apple this year too. And iOS 8 features aren't well supported yet either.
Extensions seem so promising, but there really hasnt been much of anything interesting released
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I wager ram will have a large effect on how ios 9 and 10 performs, pushing many current 6 and 6+ users to upgrade. Assuming the next iPhone is upgraded to 2 GB ram
Same reason why I use my Note 4 A LOT MORE than my iPad. With my iPad I find apps reloading a lot especially in iOS 8. I leave apps open all the time on my Note, often leave Facebook in an article I'm reading same with Twitter, I have +/-10 tabs open in Chrome and Opera Mini, usually leave the S Note app going to.
I just feel so much more productive with my Note 4
Yah but you already know what you are getting in the 6s, what surprises could there really be? Maybe a slightly faster processor/gpu, maybe maybe 2gb ram, otherwise I can't see them adding much. Apple fans have become accustomed to piecemeal updates. Personally I'll be looking forward to the Note 5.
A few concerns:
Devs actually supporting iOS 8 features, stability improvements, and RAM.
And I don't know that I am getting a 6S+, but it is on my radar. Just depends
I'll be watching out for the Note 5 as well. There are no other phones I am considering in 2015. Note 5, 6S+, that's it.
No no....bigger number = better.
That's all you need to know.
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Part of the reason for that is that iOS is refreshing the content for you....
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Personally, what are you expecting in the Note 5 that isn't "piecemeal"?
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Any specifics? Functions mean tasks to me. I want to know what I cannot do on my iPhone 6+. Not that I can't do a certain task a certain way.
Note 5 should be a complete redesign, otherwise I don't see Samsung competing. As for functionality, where do I start? S-pen, multi window, true multitasking, replaceable battery, etc etc. And those are only the things the iPhone can't do, not even the things it can do but the Note 4 does better.
I like the iPhone 6+, I liked it a lot and think it's a great phone. But the Note 4 is just so far ahead of it in functionality IMO, once again with the caveat that I'm talking about MY needs.
So if I have a 40gb of SSD and you have 4 terabytes of HDD your configuration is better?
I don't really know what to explain anymore, iOS and Android manage the RAM totally different. At least up until iOS 8.
Got my phone setup just now. I am really liking the screen on this. The fingerprint sensor seems to be a bit more difficult to setup then on the iPhone. It took me a few tries to get my prints scanned in. Otherwise, I am so impressed with the quality of this phone. The speed on this thing is amazing. Of course Google makes it easy by downloading all my apps that I purchased on my previous Android phone and even restored the passwords.
Battery was at 62% when installed.
One thing I love so much about Android is the freedom. I can connect it to my computer and drag whole folders of pictures and music to it without needing an app. My Surface Pro 3 is great at this or I can swap the SD card between the two.
Coming from using a Nexus 4 (the iPhone 5S is not comparable to this phone), there are a few minor changes in how TW does things but none of that is annoying. The speed of this phone is lightning fast!
UPS sucks and left the package at my door without ringing the doorbell as usual.
Battery was at 62% when installed.
One thing I love so much about Android is the freedom. I can connect it to my computer and drag whole folders of pictures and music to it without needing an app. My Surface Pro 3 is great at this or I can swap the SD card between the two.
Coming from using a Nexus 4 (the iPhone 5S is not comparable to this phone), there are a few minor changes in how TW does things but none of that is annoying. The speed of this phone is lightning fast!
UPS sucks and left the package at my door without ringing the doorbell as usual.
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One thing you have to consider is the removable battery advantage Note 4 has over several other flagships including iPhone 6 Plus. Also Samsung could very well go the metal route like the A-series and the next Note may not have removable battery anymore. Almost all my phones since iPhone 2G have a non removable one.
For me, I gotten used to it and change every year anyway. But my M7 which is only 20 months old has a battery which degraded by almost 1/3. I get 4 hrs SOT instead of the usual 6 hrs SOT. Even my iPhone 4 didn't degrade that fast. I can't easily just remove it and have to go to an expensive service center where they would keep my phone for awhile.
My gf wants me to use my AT&T upgrade to get her a Note 4. She wants to keep it beyond THREE years. Last year, she wanted only HTC One mini and iPhone 5s. She didn't want a large device. Now she changed her mind and wants a phablet. That removal battery is an advantage better for the LONGER RUN. My next device could also be hitting phablet territory. But with 4 GB of RAM bare minimum. Removable battery, expandable memory, and more RAM all good advantages in the long term.
For me, I gotten used to it and change every year anyway. But my M7 which is only 20 months old has a battery which degraded by almost 1/3. I get 4 hrs SOT instead of the usual 6 hrs SOT. Even my iPhone 4 didn't degrade that fast. I can't easily just remove it and have to go to an expensive service center where they would keep my phone for awhile.
My gf wants me to use my AT&T upgrade to get her a Note 4. She wants to keep it beyond THREE years. Last year, she wanted only HTC One mini and iPhone 5s. She didn't want a large device. Now she changed her mind and wants a phablet. That removal battery is an advantage better for the LONGER RUN. My next device could also be hitting phablet territory. But with 4 GB of RAM bare minimum. Removable battery, expandable memory, and more RAM all good advantages in the long term.
This is one of those questions that will go on and on and on and on and on and on and on.........
I am glad the OP got some decent advice before the usual arguments.. But you really need to try the devices you are looking at and then test the specific features YOU want.
I want a new phone this year, but I want a 4.7" ish one with a very good camera. I'm hopeful this year will see a boost in the camera quality department.
I am glad the OP got some decent advice before the usual arguments.. But you really need to try the devices you are looking at and then test the specific features YOU want.
I want a new phone this year, but I want a 4.7" ish one with a very good camera. I'm hopeful this year will see a boost in the camera quality department.
Lol touché. For the record, I completely agree the whole RAM thing is overblown. Samsung devices still reload and struggle sometimes even with the extra RAM.
Memory management is equally as important.
Indeed. Last year the phone that I saw most reloads and problems with memory was in actuality the Galaxy S5.
Even compared to devices with less memory like the Moto G, the S5 could barely open 4 apps before it would have to reload/refresh for me. Thankfully it would refresh / reload quickly but it was still always felt hobbled.
People complain about the iPhone 6/6+ having 1gb but for me in use it handles backgrounded apps and memory management far better than the S5.
Would the iPhone benefit from more memory? Well it won't harm it.
But same token, would some android devices benefit from better memory management (more so than the iPhone would benefit from extra ram) ? Most definitely.
Whilst I'm delighted to hear Samsung may be redoing touchwiz on the S6, the fact that other rumours indicate 4gb ram - seems like a contradiction to that. If they optimise it as much as stock android then 2gb or 3gb is more than sufficient. So why 4gb?
I suspect either Touchwiz won't get the overhaul it truly needs and Samsung are going to muscle its way through again with ram and processor speed, or it will get the overhaul and we will see 2-3gb.
It's interesting to see how a non touchwiz ROM works on a Samsung device. Running CM12 on my Note 4 and it's unbelievable how much faster it is. As a past staunch defender of TW, I've definitely switched my stance after seeing the difference. I still prefer TW as it has many awesome features so I hope Samsung wakes up and streamlines it.
Samsung Note 4 or iPhone 6 Plus? Foot in Each Camp...
Well when I had my GS4 GPE it too was dramatic the difference between it and Touchwiz edition I had prior. So yeah the rom does indeed make a difference in the same hardware.
I like Touchwiz launcher myself (or at least many of the extras over stock), and just hope they do what is rumoured and streamline it - everyone benefits then. But the cynic in me thinks if you are streamlining something so dramatically why do you need to throw 4gb ram at it. So one of the rumours is wrong, and in this instance I hope they are wrong about the memory.
Out of interest, How much memory is free with Cyanogenmod installed on your Note with your usual apps all open in the background ? My Moto x always seems to have about 1gb free and that's with system using around 250-300 and my 10 open apps occupying 500-700mb. This is with a 2gb device only. It was a similar story on the HTC M8 with Sense 6. So I would assume the Note 4 would sit with well over 1.5gb free even with many apps open.
Hence again more of a reason why I don't see the point in 4gb rumours for the S6 currently.
Well when I had my GS4 GPE it too was dramatic the difference between it and Touchwiz edition I had prior. So yeah the rom does indeed make a difference in the same hardware.
I like Touchwiz launcher myself (or at least many of the extras over stock), and just hope they do what is rumoured and streamline it - everyone benefits then. But the cynic in me thinks if you are streamlining something so dramatically why do you need to throw 4gb ram at it. So one of the rumours is wrong, and in this instance I hope they are wrong about the memory.
Out of interest, How much memory is free with Cyanogenmod installed on your Note with your usual apps all open in the background ? My Moto x always seems to have about 1gb free and that's with system using around 250-300 and my 10 open apps occupying 500-700mb. This is with a 2gb device only. It was a similar story on the HTC M8 with Sense 6. So I would assume the Note 4 would sit with well over 1.5gb free even with many apps open.
Hence again more of a reason why I don't see the point in 4gb rumours for the S6 currently.
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