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jamesrick80

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It's needs 6 GB ram and I'm in...I have been waiting forever for Samsung to increase the ram for the U.S. versions........
 

widgeteer

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It's needs 6 GB ram and I'm in...I have been waiting forever for Samsung to increase the ram for the U.S. versions........

Maybe. Sammy's ram management is more aggressive than the other OEM's. 6gb won't make a difference if their software doesn't accommodate.
 

shyam09

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I might get a gear s4 to complement the Note 8 if I like what the Gear S4 is about.
 

widgeteer

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This video says otherwise.


That video doesn't really tell us anything, quite frankly. It's entirely possible they tweaked RAM management for that 6gb device. The fact that it's 6 vs 4 isn't the difference. 4gb of RAM is plenty for everything you could throw at a modern day smartphone. S8 Plus's RAM management is different than the Pixel's, and you can see it when switching apps. Also, the model in that video uses the Exynos chip vs S835. That may contribute to the difference in management as one of the reasons you try to control RAM is to avoid overheating the battery. Exynos probably does a better job on its own in that regard.

I personally haven't had an issue with it because my own needs don't require a billion apps open any given session but I know it's a sore point for some users. Bottom line: I wouldn't assume 6gb automatically means RAM management flies. It *should* but it all depends on how Sammy leverages it.
 

shyam09

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Off-topic, but has there been any rumors regarding the S4? I assume one is coming eventually, I just haven't heard anything. I'm loving my Gear S3 Frontier!
They announce one every year around IFA (end of August / beginning of Sept) I think. There have been a few patents here and there but nothing in the rumor department.
 
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Fernandez21

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That video doesn't really tell us anything, quite frankly. It's entirely possible they tweaked RAM management for that 6gb device. The fact that it's 6 vs 4 isn't the difference. 4gb of RAM is plenty for everything you could throw at a modern day smartphone. S8 Plus's RAM management is different than the Pixel's, and you can see it when switching apps. Also, the model in that video uses the Exynos chip vs S835. That may contribute to the difference in management as one of the reasons you try to control RAM is to avoid overheating the battery. Exynos probably does a better job on its own in that regard.

I personally haven't had an issue with it because my own needs don't require a billion apps open any given session but I know it's a sore point for some users. Bottom line: I wouldn't assume 6gb automatically means RAM management flies. It *should* but it all depends on how Sammy leverages it.

The video shows what Samsung can do with 6gb ram. I too haven't any problems with 4gb, but there is quite a difference in how Samsung was able to optimize touchwiz for 6gb ram compare to 4gb.
 
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epicrayban

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Off-topic, but has there been any rumors regarding the S4? I assume one is coming eventually, I just haven't heard anything. I'm loving my Gear S3 Frontier!

The S3 was the first time I was truly interested in a smartwatch, but never pulled the trigger. The S4 could be it. Interested in its reveal, too.

Back to Note 8...
 

spinedoc77

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So here's something I'm wondering. I believe that the S8 Plus is the first S line with a screen bigger than 5.5". So that being the case, will that phone cannibalize sales of the Note and vice versa? It would seem the chief differentiator between the two will be the stylus.

IMO probably not, mainly because of the bezel sizes we now have smaller "big" phones. The Note 8 with it's 6.3" screen will still probably be smaller than the ip7+. It seems like we continue to shift into needing larger screens, not everyone but certainly a large consumer base as both the 7+ and the S8+ outsold their smaller brothers.
 

jamezr

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IMO probably not, mainly because of the bezel sizes we now have smaller "big" phones. The Note 8 with it's 6.3" screen will still probably be smaller than the ip7+. It seems like we continue to shift into needing larger screens, not everyone but certainly a large consumer base as both the 7+ and the S8+ outsold their smaller brothers.
part of the problem with the new ratios is it makes for a very narrow phone. The smaller the screen size the harder ti gets to operate a phone that size. If they kept the screen size 5.5 with aspect ratios of the S8(+) it gets to be a very small phone and harder to use imho
 

mib1800

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part of the problem with the new ratios is it makes for a very narrow phone. The smaller the screen size the harder ti gets to operate a phone that size. If they kept the screen size 5.5 with aspect ratios of the S8(+) it gets to be a very small phone and harder to use imho

Size is a moot point if you use with both hands. If you use single handed, big size is not an issue if you work around it. I use something like button savior that shows a non intrusive vertical floating nav bar that contains home,back,task and notification. With this I can grab the phone more towards the middle of the phone and those buttons are right next to my thumb.
 

jamezr

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Size is a moot point if you use with both hands. If you use single handed, big size is not an issue if you work around it. I use something like button savior that shows a non intrusive vertical floating nav bar that contains home,back,task and notification. With this I can grab the phone more towards the middle of the phone and those buttons are right next to my thumb.
I was talking about two hands. The phone becomes to small and narrow to hold and use.
 

Sevanw

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I give you the Galaxy Note 8 in Midnight Black, my next phone. Courtesy of evleaks.

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mib1800

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I was talking about two hands. The phone becomes to small and narrow to hold and use.

I think no one is gonna come out with 4.7in screen in 18.5 ratio. I think they will work backward starting with the designed phone width/height. Then the screen is fitted into the space.

So the old 4.7/5.5 inch become 5/5.8 inch using new aspect ratio.
 

TheRealAlex

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IMO probably not, mainly because of the bezel sizes we now have smaller "big" phones. The Note 8 with it's 6.3" screen will still probably be smaller than the ip7+. It seems like we continue to shift into needing larger screens, not everyone but certainly a large consumer base as both the 7+ and the S8+ outsold their smaller brothers.

I just got the Samsung S8+ Today 6.2" vs the Upcoming Note 8 at 6.3" Did not seem that big a deal and After 2 year of Owning the Note 5 I can do without a Stylus. Plus look at the details.

Galaxy S8+ 6.2" 3,500mah battery
Galaxy Note 8 6.3" 3,300mah battery

What is Samsung drinking, I guess they had to make Room for the Stylus Somewhere.

I was gonna wait but No money down free upgrade an $19.80 a Month Sure beats paying $35.00 a month and a $100 VISA gift card.
 

jamezr

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Here it is side by side with the S8 and Note 8.
Does seem a little tall to me but probably just as tall as the S8+

gs8-note-8.jpg
 

widgeteer

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I just got the Samsung S8+ Today 6.2" vs the Upcoming Note 8 at 6.3" Did not seem that big a deal and After 2 year of Owning the Note 5 I can do without a Stylus. Plus look at the details.

Galaxy S8+ 6.2" 3,500mah battery
Galaxy Note 8 6.3" 3,300mah battery

What is Samsung drinking, I guess they had to make Room for the Stylus Somewhere.

I was gonna wait but No money down free upgrade an $19.80 a Month Sure beats paying $35.00 a month and a $100 VISA gift card.

I didn't realize the battery was smaller. Hmmm. I kinda don't understand the play here. Unless the Note has a bunch of features specific to it (other than the S pen).
 

Sevanw

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Here it is side by side with the S8 and Note 8.
Does seem a little tall to me but probably just as tall as the S8+

View attachment 711008

Yup, and I'm guessing the only reason the Note will be 6.3 vs the 6.2 of the S8+ is because of the Note being a little more rectangular. So overall footprint of the two will be very much the same.
 

LIVEFRMNYC

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I just got the Samsung S8+ Today 6.2" vs the Upcoming Note 8 at 6.3" Did not seem that big a deal and After 2 year of Owning the Note 5 I can do without a Stylus. Plus look at the details.

Galaxy S8+ 6.2" 3,500mah battery
Galaxy Note 8 6.3" 3,300mah battery

What is Samsung drinking, I guess they had to make Room for the Stylus Somewhere.

I was gonna wait but No money down free upgrade an $19.80 a Month Sure beats paying $35.00 a month and a $100 VISA gift card.


It's strongly rumored that the Note 8 will have a Snapdragon 836, along with the LG V30 and Pixel 2. That and more optimization(which happens every cycle) might curb the 200 mAh loss. So I wouldn't make a big deal out of it. Especially since both the S8 (3000mAh) and the S8+(3500mAh) already has great battery life.
 

jamesrick80

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Any idea if the Note 8 will still work with the Dex dock..thats a definite requirement for me as well. Also, if the note 8 battery is actually smaller than the plus..it would be very hard for me to even want to switch.
 

LIVEFRMNYC

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Any idea if the Note 8 will still work with the Dex dock..thats a definite requirement for me as well. Also, if the note 8 battery is actually smaller than the plus..it would be very hard for me to even want to switch.

Don't focus on the numbers. The Note 7 had 100mAh less than the S7 Edge, and I had slightly longer on screen life on the Note 7. Both were on SD820. The Note 8 will most likely have a 836 vs the 835 on the S8+. I truly think the battery life will be no different or be slightly better on the Note 8.
 

Shanghaichica

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IMO probably not, mainly because of the bezel sizes we now have smaller "big" phones. The Note 8 with it's 6.3" screen will still probably be smaller than the ip7+. It seems like we continue to shift into needing larger screens, not everyone but certainly a large consumer base as both the 7+ and the S8+ outsold their smaller brothers.
I don't know about the S8+ but the 7+ did not outsell the 7.
 
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