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ian87w

macrumors G3
Feb 22, 2020
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Really tempted by these Samsung tabs as a laptop replacement. The inclusion of the S pen is a nice bonus. At this point, an Android tab is more than capable in doing basic things like Word processing and basic spreadsheets.

My only reservation is the longevity. Even if Samsung promises 3 years of updates, that's not good enough for a "laptop replacement" for me, as I don't buy laptops that often. I'm using a laptop from 2013, and it's running the latest Windows 10 with all the latest patches.
 

Awesomesince86

macrumors 68020
Sep 18, 2016
2,482
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Really tempted by these Samsung tabs as a laptop replacement. The inclusion of the S pen is a nice bonus. At this point, an Android tab is more than capable in doing basic things like Word processing and basic spreadsheets.

My only reservation is the longevity. Even if Samsung promises 3 years of updates, that's not good enough for a "laptop replacement" for me, as I don't buy laptops that often. I'm using a laptop from 2013, and it's running the latest Windows 10 with all the latest patches.

Honestly that was my biggest concern as well. I keep tablets longer than I would a phone. So 3 years of major OS updates really isnt enough. But considering how much cheaper it is then a comparable Ipad Pro, maybe thats a tradeoff thats worth making.
 

Infinite Vortex

macrumors 6502a
Mar 6, 2015
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My only reservation is the longevity. Even if Samsung promises 3 years of updates, that's not good enough for a "laptop replacement" for me, as I don't buy laptops that often. I'm using a laptop from 2013, and it's running the latest Windows 10 with all the latest patches.

Part of me likes the Apple way of 5 years of updates and part of me prefers the Android, more specifically the Samsung, way.

Yes its great to get updates for 5 years but when I really really look at those updates, for the most part the real changes are only for the new phones. A new look and a few teaks here and there don't change how I overall use my phone. Like Apple hasn't turned around and given me better photos at night on my iPhone XS when the changes for that are predominantly software. And one can't make the argument of the performance of the A12 processor when Google can do it really well on a Pixel 3a. So yeah, those updates only mean so much to me. By years 4 and onwards I don't feel I'm getting much of anything but a slower device. You can argue the home screen improvements with iOS 14 but this far from a regular thing.

On the flip side, what I get with those 5 years of updates is a phone that is further and further away from what I bought especially when it comes to have well it does what it from the beginning. There's no value for me in getting things that never originally came with the phone if all those things I do with my phone, all those things I needed when I bought it, do it slower.

If there was the ability to downgrade software, and no-one really seems to give that, then that would be different but there isn't.

Samsung and their typical 2 years of support does mean that my device will continue to perform reasonably closely to how I originally bought it. For me that's a big plus given I always want to maintain performance for what it does today rather than what it may or may not do for me tomorrow. I didn't buy it for what I might get, but rather, what I do get today. And the significantly less "you have an update" BS for me is fabulous!

Although this has its flip side too. For instance, Samsung has tweaked a few things with that tablet software since Android 9 on my S5e such that its a significantly better tablet for me today in 2020 than when I bought it. Simple little things like better rotation lock support that came with an Android 9 update or being able to have multiple instances of the same widget that came with Android 10 do matter. Without having bought my device at the right time there is a greater chance I would miss out on that.

So I guess my point is that if I feel Im getting real value from updates past 3 years I'm glad to have them. If on the other hand I feel the only thing I'm essentially getting is a slower device past 3 years I'm really not interested. Having to change a device due to performance issues simply because of the updates applied to it definitely rubs me up the wrong way especially when I think that had it been left alone it would be performing fine. So for everyone the milage varies depending on what they're looking for in those updates.
 

ian87w

macrumors G3
Feb 22, 2020
8,704
12,638
Indonesia
Part of me likes the Apple way of 5 years of updates and part of me prefers the Android, more specifically the Samsung, way.

Yes its great to get updates for 5 years but when I really really look at those updates, for the most part the real changes are only for the new phones. A new look and a few teaks here and there don't change how I overall use my phone. Like Apple hasn't turned around and given me better photos at night on my iPhone XS when the changes for that are predominantly software. And one can't make the argument of the performance of the A12 processor when Google can do it really well on a Pixel 3a. So yeah, those updates only mean so much to me. By years 4 and onwards I don't feel I'm getting much of anything but a slower device. You can argue the home screen improvements with iOS 14 but this far from a regular thing.

On the flip side, what I get with those 5 years of updates is a phone that is further and further away from what I bought especially when it comes to have well it does what it from the beginning. There's no value for me in getting things that never originally came with the phone if all those things I do with my phone, all those things I needed when I bought it, do it slower.

If there was the ability to downgrade software, and no-one really seems to give that, then that would be different but there isn't.

Samsung and their typical 2 years of support does mean that my device will continue to perform reasonably closely to how I originally bought it. For me that's a big plus given I always want to maintain performance for what it does today rather than what it may or may not do for me tomorrow. I didn't buy it for what I might get, but rather, what I do get today. And the significantly less "you have an update" BS for me is fabulous!

Although this has its flip side too. For instance, Samsung has tweaked a few things with that tablet software since Android 9 on my S5e such that its a significantly better tablet for me today in 2020 than when I bought it. Simple little things like better rotation lock support that came with an Android 9 update or being able to have multiple instances of the same widget that came with Android 10 do matter. Without having bought my device at the right time there is a greater chance I would miss out on that.

So I guess my point is that if I feel Im getting real value from updates past 3 years I'm glad to have them. If on the other hand I feel the only thing I'm essentially getting is a slower device past 3 years I'm really not interested. Having to change a device due to performance issues simply because of the updates applied to it definitely rubs me up the wrong way especially when I think that had it been left alone it would be performing fine. So for everyone the milage varies depending on what they're looking for in those updates.
I couldn’t care less about features. As Samsung One UI matures, I’m sure the differences between One UI 2.1 and One UI 6.0 would not be that big of a deal from my perspective. I do have concerns about security patches. If this thing becomes my laptop replacement, it has to have the same security assurance as a laptop. Right now, I can be using a 10 year old laptop, but it’s running the latest Windows 10 with the latest patches. It’s more and more difficult to excuse the short software and security support on a device that can still do the job for longer than that.
 

michael9891

Cancelled
Sep 26, 2016
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I have a 2020 IPP 12.9 and I ordered the S7+, better to go with the 256 GB version since it comes with 8GB RAM compared to 6GB on the 128 model (which is kind of stupid they really should offer 8GB across all configurations)
What region are you in? Here in the UK, we only get one storage/ram configuration.
 

michael9891

Cancelled
Sep 26, 2016
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3,945
dam that sucks sorry to hear that, I am in the USA and we can choose 6GB/128,8/256 or 8/512

I wonder why Samsung is not offering the 8GB ram models
They seem to get a kick out of offering Europe less. lol At least they all have the 865+, forums would be full of complaints if some regions had an Exynos chip.
 

The Game 161

macrumors Nehalem
Original poster
Dec 15, 2010
30,980
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UK
Multitasking King.. Yes I know its busy but nice to do when needed
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TAJones99

macrumors regular
Apr 26, 2009
241
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Orange Park, FL
I just got my Tab S7 Plus today and have to say its awesome. I also have the 2020 iPad Pro Pro 12.9, and its definitely optimized better for some stuff, the Tab S7 and Tab S7 Plus are a step in the right direction for better developer support.
 
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LIVEFRMNYC

macrumors G3
Oct 27, 2009
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I just got my Tab S7 Plus today and have to say its awesome. I also have the 2020 iPad Pro Pro 12.9, and its definitely optimized better for some stuff, the Tab S7 and Tab S7 Plus are a step in the right direction for better developer support.

Same here, just got mines an hour ago. This is my first large tablet, and so far I'm impressed.

Now I just have to wait for my keyboard stand to be delivered which is a couple days behind.
 
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Awesomesince86

macrumors 68020
Sep 18, 2016
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Same here, just got mines an hour ago. This is my first large tablet, and so far I'm impressed.

Now I just have to wait for my keyboard stand to be delivered which is a couple days behind.

Look at you just going all in on the Samsung ecosystem. New Fold 2 and Tab S7, right?
 

Awesomesince86

macrumors 68020
Sep 18, 2016
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I just realized, with Google dropping the Pixels down into mid range territory and OnePlus doing the same for the most part, Samsung are now basically alone in the premier android phone market. At least in the US.
 

LIVEFRMNYC

macrumors G3
Oct 27, 2009
8,877
10,987
Look at you just going all in on the Samsung ecosystem. New Fold 2 and Tab S7, right?

Yup. Basically have everything to go full in on Samsung or Apple eco system.

Samsung ...
Fold 2
Tab S7+
Active Watch 2
Smart TV
I guess I can count my Windows Desktop, since it has "Your Phone" app built in.

Apple ...
MBP 2018
iPhone 11 Pro Max
AW S5
iPad Mini 5 w/ the first apple pencil
Apple TV 4K


One thing I have to get use to, is the Spen on the S7+ has a very thin tip. I already noticed a benefit in some areas, and a disadvantage in other areas, compared to the Apple pencil when drawing. But I'm far from a drawing artist, so that has little weight for me.

Time to set the S7+ up, and see how well the integration is.
 

Awesomesince86

macrumors 68020
Sep 18, 2016
2,482
3,302
Yup. Basically have everything to go full in on Samsung or Apple eco system.

Samsung ...
Fold 2
Tab S7+
Active Watch 2
Smart TV
I guess I can count my Windows Desktop, since it has "Your Phone" app built in.

Apple ...
MBP 2018
iPhone 11 Pro Max
AW S5
iPad Mini 5 w/ the first apple pencil
Apple TV 4K


One thing I have to get use to, is the Spen on the S7+ has a very thin tip. I already noticed a benefit in some areas, and a disadvantage in other areas, compared to the Apple pencil when drawing. But I'm far from a drawing artist, so that has little weight for me.

Time to set the S7+ up, and see how well the integration is.

As a tech guy, I'm jealous of your gear. Once you get some time with your Tab S7, let us know how you like it. Since I returned my Fold 2mi have some cash burning a hole in my pocket. Probably going towards a IPP or Tab S7 Plus. Everytime I get ready to pull the trigger on one of them I second guess it.
 

LIVEFRMNYC

macrumors G3
Oct 27, 2009
8,877
10,987
As a tech guy, I'm jealous of your gear. Once you get some time with your Tab S7, let us know how you like it. Since I returned my Fold 2mi have some cash burning a hole in my pocket. Probably going towards a IPP or Tab S7 Plus. Everytime I get ready to pull the trigger on one of them I second guess it.

I think I going to trade in my iPad Mini for the new Air. Don't know yet.


So far while setting this up. The integration of calls and texts are just as good as on Apple. The speakers are excellent.
The under display finger sensor is very good.

Again, I never had a tablet this big, so I'm waiting to see how all my apps pan out. I'm copying a lot of my apps now via smart sync.
 
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Awesomesince86

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Sep 18, 2016
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I think I going to trade in my iPad Mini for the new Air. Don't know yet.


So far while setting this up. The integration of calls and texts are just as good as on Apple. The speakers are excellent.
The under display finger sensor is very good.

Again, I never had a tablet this big, so I'm waiting to see how all my apps pan out. I'm copying a lot of my apps now via smart sync.

Yeah I currently use a ipad pro 10.5 and I'm not sure how much of an upgrade the Tab S7 plus would be other than obviously the display. Since Samsung have a free return policy I might just give it a try and see. It would be cheaper than buying a new iPad pro.
 

The Game 161

macrumors Nehalem
Original poster
Dec 15, 2010
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UK
Yup. Basically have everything to go full in on Samsung or Apple eco system.

Samsung ...
Fold 2
Tab S7+
Active Watch 2
Smart TV
I guess I can count my Windows Desktop, since it has "Your Phone" app built in.

Apple ...
MBP 2018
iPhone 11 Pro Max
AW S5
iPad Mini 5 w/ the first apple pencil
Apple TV 4K


One thing I have to get use to, is the Spen on the S7+ has a very thin tip. I already noticed a benefit in some areas, and a disadvantage in other areas, compared to the Apple pencil when drawing. But I'm far from a drawing artist, so that has little weight for me.

Time to set the S7+ up, and see how well the integration is.
How's using apple watch and active working out so far?
 

jamesrick80

macrumors 68030
Sep 12, 2014
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Depends on your needs. I don't use many apps on my ipad Pro anyway. Hardware wise the tab s7 plus I would say is very good and the screen is the best you can find on any tablet. It also runs 120hz at QHD so for films, shows, YouTube and gaming I would say this is a great option.

There's certainly a market for both that's for sure. Dex from a brief hands on is far better than I expected. Something ipad doesn't really have

Agree and as usual, I can be much more productive and allow myself more entertainment etc. on Samsung phones and tablets. iOS is nice for FaceTime and social purposes but ends there while Samsung completes the experience and gives me that and more.
 

LIVEFRMNYC

macrumors G3
Oct 27, 2009
8,877
10,987
How's using apple watch and active working out so far?


There's certainly a market for both that's for sure. Dex from a brief hands on is far better than I expected. Something ipad doesn't really have

You mean in comparison?

If so, there's superficial trade offs on both watches. Both are great watches, even though my use is simplistic.

I do prefer Samsung watches for the design, excellent sleep tracking, offline Spotify, and etc.


I used Dex without the keyboard cover (still waiting for it), and my experience was better than any other previous Dex experience. Dex with zero lag put a smile on my face. And it's very usable without a keyboard.
 

The Game 161

macrumors Nehalem
Original poster
Dec 15, 2010
30,980
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UK
You mean in comparison?

If so, there's superficial trade offs on both watches. Both are great watches, even though my use is simplistic.

I do prefer Samsung watches for the design, excellent sleep tracking, offline Spotify, and etc.


I used Dex without the keyboard cover (still waiting for it), and my experience was better than any other previous Dex experience. Dex with zero lag put a smile on my face. And it's very usable without a keyboard.
Do you do a flossy and wear galaxy active on one wrist and apple watch on the other lol
 
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