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Harthag

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This is how it looks generally when there is a white background. Like a reddish/pink hue. My eyes have adjusted to it but when comparing it to another device it’s quite noticeable. Apple will replace it, but very frustrating that Apple won’t send out a replacement phone until I’ve sent the faulty one back and they’ve received it.

Mine is a GVCH9200. Is that a Samsung screen?
Trash, send that back and demand better. LG seems to have more QC issues than Samsung from what I've seen.
 
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Jnkinnear

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Trash, send that back and demand better. LG seems to have more QC issues than Samsung from what I've seen.
Really frustrating, waited 3 weeks for delivery to receive a cheep faulty screen. Now have to send it back and wait weeks before another phone is sent to me which could have the same issue or be worse. Feel like just getting a full refund and leaving it or just give up and keep it which is less hassle. Apple should be doing a recall for all these faulty screens, it’s not good enough
 

Harthag

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I visited Apple store again to try again, as the unevenness on mine bothers me and I just can't settle. New one is G9N Samsung panel with good uniformity and virtually no off-axis shift. As far as I'm concerned, THIS is how all the displays should look.

@Jnkinnear - I would return it / exchange if you are able to use another phone in the meantime?

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Jnkinnear

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I visited Apple store again to try again, as the unevenness on mine bothers me and I just can't settle. New one is G9N Samsung panel with good uniformity and virtually no off-axis shift. As far as I'm concerned, THIS is how all the displays should look.

@Jnkinnear - I would return it / exchange if you are able to use another phone in the meantime?

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Have my 14 still but it’s just the lottery of what the screen is like on the replacement Apple send. Would be great if they send a fully tested Samsung screen with no faults. I don’t live near an Apple Store so i can’t pop in to just swap it.
 
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Harthag

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Have my 14 still but it’s just the lottery of what the screen is like on the replacement Apple send. Would be great if they send a fully tested Samsung screen with no faults. I don’t live near an Apple Store so i can’t pop in to just swap it.
Ah, that makes the decision more difficult. It depends on how you feel about it, it's your phone. I'd still say swapping is worth a try.
 

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I visited Apple store again to try again, as the unevenness on mine bothers me and I just can't settle. New one is G9N Samsung panel with good uniformity and virtually no off-axis shift. As far as I'm concerned, THIS is how all the displays should look.

@Jnkinnear - I would return it / exchange if you are able to use another phone in the meantime?

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That's how my G9P screen looks. Very happy!
 

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I visited Apple store again to try again, as the unevenness on mine bothers me and I just can't settle. New one is G9N Samsung panel with good uniformity and virtually no off-axis shift. As far as I'm concerned, THIS is how all the displays should look.

@Jnkinnear - I would return it / exchange if you are able to use another phone in the meantime?

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Looks perfect. That’s how my 16 Pro looks too after having exchanged it so many times due to bad displays. The lottery odds are bad this year but good units are still out there if you keep trying. It’s good you persevered! Congrats!
 

Harthag

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Looks pretty much like my good 16+

Woo

That's how my G9P screen looks. Very happy!

Looks perfect. That’s how my 16 Pro looks too after having exchanged it so many times due to bad displays. The lottery odds are bad this year but good units are still out there if you keep trying. It’s good you persevered! Congrats!
Yeah, it’s pathetic that it has come to this due to panel lottery. I agree, the displays seem to be worse overall this year, at least from what I’ve seen. I don’t expect perfection but the ones with excessive shift or uniformity issues are just not acceptable.
 

Niodoc

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Hi,
It seems that this year the standard & plus 16 have a better screen than pro & pro max. Checked this in the Apple Store and all Pros had a dimmer / less brighter screen and 100%.
Did anybody have similar experience?
 
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Pixels7

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After seeing this thread I’m scared to order an iPhone 16 😅

I want to upgrade to 16 from my iPhone 11 (with a perfect LCD IPS panel). I tried iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 12 mini, but returned them both because the screens had a greenish yellow blob in the middle of the screens when looking at them how you normally would, so straight on and not from an angle, when I tilted them slightly they would look perfect. It was pretty unusable!

My partner has an iPhone 12 and it also has the shifting problem but than different, it is shifting colours very badly when the phone is slightly tilted (with minimal body/hand movement while holding it). So you get ‘seasick’ from it. He doesn’t care though. He sees it and goes on with his day. Wish I could do that!
 
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Pudlo

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After seeing this thread I’m scared to order an iPhone 16 😅

I want to upgrade to 16 from my iPhone 11 (with a perfect LCD IPS panel). I tried iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 12 mini, but returned them both because the screens had a greenish yellow blob in the middle of the screens when looking at them how you normally would, so straight on and not from an angle, when I tilted them slightly they would look perfect. It was pretty unusable!

My partner has an iPhone 12 and it also has the shifting problem but than different, it is shifting colours very badly when the phone is slightly tilted (with minimal body/hand movement while holding it). So you get ‘seasick’ from it. He doesn’t care though. He sees it and goes on with his day. Wish I could do that!
out of 6 devices at the apple store, one was clearly ok with no color tint at all, all the others had a terrible blue tint. So yeah, if you decide to exchange a bit, there is a chance you will get a good one.
 
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Pixels7

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out of 6 devices at the apple store, one was clearly ok with no color tint at all, all the others had a terrible blue tint. So yeah, if you decide to exchange a bit, there is a chance you will get a good one.
Ugh yes I don’t have an Apple Store nearby (2 hours drive) and the stores where you can buy iPhones won’t let you exchange for something like this. Only one time within the two week timeframe. If you try to exchange more often, they just don’t sell you another one anymore.

I wanted to get one through my provider this time, because they have a great deal on iPhone 16. Maybe I wait for iPhone 17 😅

Edit: blue tint sounds better than a greenish yellow blob in the middle of the screen though. What do you mean with the blue tint? Screen calibrated too cool? Or shifting to blue with minor tilting?
 

Jim McN

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Received my 16 Pro and the screen has a reddish tint compared to my old standard 14. Would you say this is normal or worth returning?
TBH, your 16 pro screen looks good because it looks uniform, and from your pic the pink hue is quite subtle. If you compare screens you will almost always see differences (warmer, more "pinkish", colors a bit off, etc) but since the screen is uniform, then I would keep it, otherwise you will enter the panel lottery and be frustrated...
 

BorisDG

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Yeah, it’s pathetic that it has come to this due to panel lottery. I agree, the displays seem to be worse overall this year, at least from what I’ve seen. I don’t expect perfection but the ones with excessive shift or uniformity issues are just not acceptable.
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Harthag

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Ugh yes I don’t have an Apple Store nearby (2 hours drive) and the stores where you can buy iPhones won’t let you exchange for something like this. Only one time within the two week timeframe. If you try to exchange more often, they just don’t sell you another one anymore.

I wanted to get one through my provider this time, because they have a great deal on iPhone 16. Maybe I wait for iPhone 17 😅

Edit: blue tint sounds better than a greenish yellow blob in the middle of the screen though. What do you mean with the blue tint? Screen calibrated too cool? Or shifting to blue with minor tilting?
It will be infuriating to drive 2 hours each way only to get a bad screen. Maybe once could be worth it, but that’s a stretch.

Blue tint can be either the screen being tinted blue / too cool (rarely an issue) or off-axis shift- when you tilt the phone and view at an angle there can be strong blue or other tint that can range from barely anything to aggressive and disruptive. Personally, mild blue shift at an angle is OK with me and I prefer that to pink, etc.
Here is my screen
That looks perfect! 👌
 

Pixels7

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It will be infuriating to drive 2 hours each way only to get a bad screen. Maybe once could be worth it, but that’s a stretch.

Blue tint can be either the screen being tinted blue / too cool (rarely an issue) or off-axis shift- when you tilt the phone and view at an angle there can be strong blue or other tint that can range from barely anything to aggressive and disruptive. Personally, mild blue shift at an angle is OK with me and I prefer that to pink, etc.
yes blue shift I’m okay with as well. Unless it shifts already when you hold the phone in your hand and you take a deep breath and move your hand a tiny bit and then it shifts (that’s how bad my partner his iPhone 12 is! it makes me nauseous).

I’m really not okay with green tint. I’m a photographer and sometimes I edit a little bit on my iPhone with Lightroom mobile when i am waiting somewhere etc and I can’t edit the colours on a green tinted screen. I prefer a magenta tint if I have to choose between green and magenta/ pink. And even when I wouldn’t use my iPhone for editing, I just can’t look to a greenish screen! Skin tones look so ‘sickly’ then.

my iPhone 11 is a little bit on the cool/ blue side. But it’s very uniform. my iPad Pro 2022 lcd display is more warm. But colours are actually almost the same as on my colour calibrated panels. Only that screen is not uniform, it has yellow corners (and it seems like it’s getting worse). But I just kept it, because I’m never looking at the corners of my screen and I was afraid to get a worse display! It’s so annoying that it’s such a lottery!

luckily my Apple Watch s10 is perfect 🤩 That’s why I felt brave enough to consider upgrading to iPhone 16 and then I saw this thread LOL!
 
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Harthag

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yes blue shift I’m okay with as well. Unless it shifts already when you hold the phone in your hand and you take a deep breath and move your hand a tiny bit and then it shifts (that’s how bad my partner his iPhone 12 is! it makes me nauseous).

I’m really not okay with green tint. I’m a photographer and sometimes I edit a little bit on my iPhone with Lightroom mobile when i am waiting somewhere etc and I can’t edit the colours on a green tinted screen. I prefer a magenta tint if I have to choose between green and magenta/ pink. And even when I wouldn’t use my iPhone for editing, I just can’t look to a greenish screen! Skin tones look so ‘sickly’ then.

my iPhone 11 is a little bit on the cool/ blue side. But it’s very uniform. my iPad Pro 2022 lcd display is more warm. But colours are actually almost the same as on my colour calibrated panels. Only that screen is not uniform, it has yellow corners (and it seems like it’s getting worse). But I just kept it, because I’m never looking at the corners of my screen and I was afraid to get a worse display! It’s so annoying that it’s such a lottery!

luckily my Apple Watch s10 is perfect 🤩 That’s why I felt brave enough to consider upgrading to iPhone 16 and then I saw this thread LOL!
It sounds like you described above a couple of posts, you can also get one that looks yellow head-on, and then when you turn the phone slightly it looks perfect. I got stuck with one of those before, and returned that as well.
 
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Pixels7

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It sounds like you described above a couple of posts, you can also get one that looks yellow head-on, and then when you turn the phone slightly it looks perfect. I got stuck with one of those before, and returned that as well.
Yes I had an iPhone 12 mini indeed like that, so I went back to my iPhone 7 and a few months later tried an 11 pro. Same problem as the 12 mini. So then I got the LCD iPhone 11, because my 7 needed to be on the charger 16 hours a day (that’s how it felt!).

For me that is the most awful display problem. Also because the yellow/ green tint was like a ‘blob’ in the middle of the screen and the top and bottom looked normal + with a slight movement of the phone, the ‘blob’ danced over the whole screen. Then you tilted it more and the screen was perfect! And I had this with a 12mini and 11 pro so I was afraid it was an oled problem.

And that’s why I am still typing this on my LCD 11 😄
 

Pudlo

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I visited Apple store again to try again, as the unevenness on mine bothers me and I just can't settle. New one is G9N Samsung panel with good uniformity and virtually no off-axis shift. As far as I'm concerned, THIS is how all the displays should look.

@Jnkinnear - I would return it / exchange if you are able to use another phone in the meantime?

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exactly what I'm talking about, from 6 or eight units on the display only one was like that, all the others with just a slight shift of axis, showed a terrible blue tint. Like I can understand that people can get used to that tint and not notice without comparision but if you happen to see the display with no shift just like the one on those pictures, all the other iphones (which are 1k$ phones keep in mind) look almost like a cheap Chinese toys and a second category product. Like I can't really unseen that and it made me rethink buying iphone 16 max, I don't want to be left with a display where only when looking at perfect angle colors are accurate. And why the hell I would have to pay full price for a product which is broken. It is crystal clear if you happen to see the correct one and compare it to a blue tinted one. I had both in my hands, I saw it, I can't unseen it.
 
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Pixels7

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(which are 1k$ phones keep in mind)
yes exactly, this is the big problem for me. Here the normal iPhone 16 is almost €1000,- it’s a lot of money. And I always keep my phones for years, I can’t imagine looking at such a screen for years. But most people don’t notice such things. My partner does notice it, but doesn’t care. But he always get refurbished old iPhone models, so max €300,-, maybe it hurts less then. And he is not working with colours the whole day like I am.
 

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As another data point, mine looks perfect so far at about 40% brightness. The shifts off axis look improved vs. 14 Pro Max, as in, it’s “only” appearing less bright, rather than overly blue like said old phone.
 
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thatJohann

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Picked up a case yesterday for my 16 Pro at an Apple Store and checked out the 16 Pro Max demo units. And every single one had the terrible screens with massive blue shift. While the regular 16 and 16 Plus did not. I don’t know why this hasn’t been a bigger issue picked up by tech sites. I guess most people don’t mind this lol

It’s crazy cause my friend has tried 3 times to get a 16 Pro Max with a good screen and all three times he got busted screens. He just gave up and will try next year. Baffled.
 
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