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thadoggfather

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No, each of those had an updated panel compared to the previous one, except for the SE2 which had the one from the 8. I wouldn’t expect the SE3 to actually have a different panel at all, too. I mean, for the price it should, but knowing Apple and looking at the Studio Display old panels are the latest rave.

if im not mistaken 6=6s
(sRGB)

panel wise 7=8=SE2=SE3
(DCI-P3)

Going off spec, any unit to unit variation is manufacturing, manufacturer, or both.
 
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Reggaenald

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if im not mistaken 6=6s
(sRGB)

panel wise 7=8=SE2=SE3
(DCI-P3)

Going off spec, any unit to unit variation is manufacturing, manufacturer, or both.
The color may be similar, but they definitely don’t have the same panels. Each keynote Apple notes that there were improvements to the display, looking at a 6 and 6s, the 6s is definitely better, same goes for the 7 and 8. Not the same panels. Color isn’t just defined by the profile the panel supports, but also brightness, glass and other factors. But thank you for your reply, anyway. Didn’t know these differences. ??
 

snipr125

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Check out this video comparing the SE2022 vs the SE2020:


very impressive, over 2 hours more screen on time in the battery drain test (Playing games, watching videos etc).
 
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HalfFullmoon

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Check out this video comparing the SE2022 vs the SE2020:


very impressive, over 2 hours more screen on time in the battery drain test (Playing games, watching videos etc).
Well, depends on the battery health of SE 2020. I don't think he bought a new SE 2020 or changed its battery just to test the SE 2022.
 

snipr125

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Well, depends on the battery health of SE 2020. I don't think he bought a new SE 2020 or changed its battery just to test the SE 2022.
At the beginning of the video the reviewer specifically states that the SE2020 battery health was supposed to be 100%, but it it had literally dropped to 99% the day he did this test. So it’s pretty fair I think you will agree. Either way by the end of it the SE2020 died at 5h 1 min and the SE2022 died at 7h 16 min, which to me means slightly better battery life than the 12 mini.
 
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HalfFullmoon

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At the beginning of the video the reviewer specifically states that the SE2020 battery health was supposed to be 100%, but it it had literally dropped to 99% the day he did this test. So it’s pretty fair I think you will agree. Either way by the end of it the SE2020 died at 5h 1 min and the SE2022 died at 7h 16 min.
Oh. Didn’t watch it with sound on. He should have shown it in video, like he showed brightness.

His tests supposedly shows that SE 2022 can get two hours more than SE 2020 regardless of what mode is being used. Apple claims only two more hours of video playback from previous version. So, I have doubts.
 
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jntdroid

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Oh. Didn’t watch it with sound on. He should have shown it in video, like he showed brightness.

His tests supposedly shows that SE 2022 can get two hours more than SE 2020 regardless of what mode is being used. Apple claims only two more hours of video playback from previous version. So, I have doubts.

He does also verbally disclose that neither phone was activated, so no cellular anything was happening. Just Wi-Fi. 5G will obviously bring the two closer together, but these results don't seem too far fetched given the two major factors vs. the 2020 SE:

#1 - the battery itself is physically just over 10% larger
#2 - the A15 is significantly more efficient than the A13

I would think on LTE only, the 2022 should still be more efficient with the Qualcomm hardware in there. But 5G will obviously drain it faster...

When comparing to the 12 Mini, the other thing to keep in mind is the screen. All else being the same, and doing the same activities, the 12 Mini's screen is going to draw more power every time due to the higher resolution and OLED panel (unless it was just all black all the time...). The 12 Mini's battery is only 10% larger than the SE 2022, with identical processor and RAM, but a more power hungry screen. So I think it's possible in certain use cases that the SE 2022 could actually match or slightly beat the 12 Mini.
 

HalfFullmoon

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He does also verbally disclose that neither phone was activated, so no cellular anything was happening. Just Wi-Fi. 5G will obviously bring the two closer together, but these results don't seem too far fetched given the two major factors vs. the 2020 SE:

#1 - the battery itself is physically just over 10% larger
#2 - the A15 is significantly more efficient than the A13

I would think on LTE only, the 2022 should still be more efficient with the Qualcomm hardware in there. But 5G will obviously drain it faster...

When comparing to the 12 Mini, the other thing to keep in mind is the screen. All else being the same, and doing the same activities, the 12 Mini's screen is going to draw more power every time due to the higher resolution and OLED panel (unless it was just all black all the time...). The 12 Mini's battery is only 10% larger than the SE 2022, with identical processor and RAM, but a more power hungry screen. So I think it's possible in certain use cases that the SE 2022 could actually match or slightly beat the 12 Mini.
I was just comparing Apple's claim of two hours gain on video plackback, vs. him showing the gain to be for almost anything, including using camera, web browsing, etc.
 

jntdroid

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I was just comparing Apple's claim of two hours gain on video plackback, vs. him showing the gain to be for almost anything, including using camera, web browsing, etc.

Oh I know. And I agree, 2 hours difference seems pretty significant. That's about 40% higher than his SE 2020. I was just trying to say there are some factors involved that could make that feasible. Keyword "Could"... ;)
 

snipr125

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He does also verbally disclose that neither phone was activated, so no cellular anything was happening. Just Wi-Fi. 5G will obviously bring the two closer together, but these results don't seem too far fetched given the two major factors vs. the 2020 SE:

#1 - the battery itself is physically just over 10% larger
#2 - the A15 is significantly more efficient than the A13

I would think on LTE only, the 2022 should still be more efficient with the Qualcomm hardware in there. But 5G will obviously drain it faster...

When comparing to the 12 Mini, the other thing to keep in mind is the screen. All else being the same, and doing the same activities, the 12 Mini's screen is going to draw more power every time due to the higher resolution and OLED panel (unless it was just all black all the time...). The 12 Mini's battery is only 10% larger than the SE 2022, with identical processor and RAM, but a more power hungry screen. So I think it's possible in certain use cases that the SE 2022 could actually match or slightly beat the 12 Mini.

I agree with what you say, but just a small correction in that the 12 mini uses the A14, not the more efficient A15 in the SE2022.
 

jntdroid

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I agree with what you say, but just a small correction in that the 12 mini uses the A14, not the more efficient A15 in the SE2022.

Sorry - for the top part of my post I was talking about the SE '22 vs '20, and not the 12 Mini. I should've clarified that better!
 
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Tunster

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I managed to get some 5G coverage in my local area and the speed was more than my vDSL broadband on download by almost double. Also, I did notice a battery drain more significantly on it vs 4G. Noting disastrous, but battery is holding for at least a full day's use with a good few hours of screen time.

With my new dBrand grip case, I'm super happy :).
 

LFC2020

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Check out this video comparing the SE2022 vs the SE2020:


very impressive, over 2 hours more screen on time in the battery drain test (Playing games, watching videos etc).
Why didn't he use Siri to set the brightness evenly on both phones. ?‍♂️

7h16m usage. ? Impressive, puts them android phones with 5000 mAh batteries to shame. ?

The A15 bionic is no joke.
 
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HalfFullmoon

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I agree with what you say, but just a small correction in that the 12 mini uses the A14, not the more efficient A15 in the SE2022.
While I am doing an idle battery test in the SE 2022 with Bluetooth off, I used iPhone 8 only on Wi-Fi. I got almost 6.5 hours of SOT using only Safari from battery level 100% to 20%. This is the original battery. Only thing I changed was remove the SIM card and charge with 20W charger rather than the 10W charger. So, I think I can almost match the SE 2022 battery life with iPhone 8 by just replacing its battery.

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Tunster

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Sadly, plastic seems to be a dirty word for tech reviewers.

My old Nokia 3310 was a tank compared to modern smartphones.
Most of us had a 3310 at school (aged 14-15). Even had a competitions on school trips to try destroy them. Nope. Case might pop off and you put it back on again. I want a hybrid plastic/glass phone. That's thicker than the average smartphone so we can have 2-3 days battery life.
 

HalfFullmoon

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Dec 29, 2021
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This is ridiculous battery life on the new iPhone SE 2022. Using Wi-Fi. I have to also mention that my routine to turn off the smart plug at 100% failed twice this week. It never failed with the iPhone 8. So, it is something I have to keep watch over.



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HalfFullmoon

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Dec 29, 2021
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Shortcut automation to power off smart plug when charging reached 100% failed again, for the third time. After unplugging manually, I tested the smart plug and I can still turn off/on the smart plug via control panel without issues. If you recall, I had Wi-Fi issues when the phone was plugged into the charger. Now I will test if this is a smart plug issue by charging the iPhone 8. Have to do it Monday though.



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