See Samsung's Sunday newspaper ad about the iPhone 5. Whats your thoughts? (merged)

[Chris CA]

Sorry, but every company "has to" innovate

And Samsung innovates by stealing (which has been proven) from Apple?

The only reason Samsung got busted is because they didn't buy the licensing

Except there was no licensing that would have happened for what they stole from Apple.

I believe he was talking about Apple being the largest tech company,

They aren't. Samsung revenue is about 3 to 1 vs Apple. And Apple is still behind AT&T, HP and Hitachi. They are 6th according to revenue (Wikipedia - 2011 stats)

 

[ShinySteelRobot]

According to Samsung's logic, nobody should buy a Porsche 911, because a Ford Mustang GT has more horsepower, therefore the Mustang GT must be way better, right Samsung?

An oversized subwoofer in a lowrider car gets much louder than my Bang & Olufsen stereo, therefore that car's audio sounds much better, right Samsung?

Sorry Samsung...it's 2012 and people don't buy products based on specs alone anymore.

AFAICT, the only meaningful difference between the iPhone 5 and the Samsung Galaxy 3s is the screen. And those huge screens don't fit in your pocket as well as an iPhone does. Not to mention the ginormous Android screens are really easy to crack due to sheer size. Going by personal experience, several of my friends have cracked their giant Android screens but only one friend has cracked an iPhone screen.

 

[thasan]

Right. Because as you just inferred, Samsung will steal ("Samsung taking their market share using any means") whatever they can from Apple.
Apple has to continuously innovate and Samsung can simple not innovate and steal from Apple.

Far from it. Perhaps you should do a bit of simple research. Apple is the largest publicly traded company (but not private) by market cap (shares outanding times market price).

There are plenty of companies that have a larger income, more employees, more profit, etc.

Can I get an example? I know Chinese army or dod are big in terms of number of employees, but they aren't private... Well, north Korean army maybe considered as private company but honestly, I am just curious to find out bigger companies, not hedge funds etc.

 

[WakeUpDrunk]

Youre reasoning is that of a follower; because the sales are due to others buying, it means you must have one too?

Interesting.

You must have quoted the wrong person because I have no clue how you could have gotten anything you said from my post.

 

[lordofthereef]

You should buy a plastic car, it would probably save you a lot of gas due to the lighter weight.

It might. It it would have to be designed that way. Otherwise aerodynamics would be off. Simply converting any standard car off the road to plastic just wouldn't work at all.

Anyway the iPhone 5 is lighter than all of the plastic competitors, so I am not even sure where the poster you originally quoted was goon with this one!

 

[AzN1337c0d3r]

You should buy a plastic car, it would probably save you a lot of gas due to the lighter weight.

That's about the dumbest thing I've read all day.

The case of a phone isn't safety critical and doesn't bear any loads.

The structural components of a car however...

 

[HangmanSwingset]

Shake to Update?? WHERE CAN I BUY ONE!?

No man, "Palm Touch Mute Pause" has got to be the bestest feature EVAR!


But in all seriousness, that sounds like they took random smartphone keywords out of a hat just to put it on the list as another feature.

 

[alexxxhp]

?

 

[iPadPublisher]

No man, "Palm Touch Mute Pause" has got to be the bestest feature EVAR!


But in all seriousness, that sounds like they took random smartphone keywords out of a hat just to put it on the list as another feature.

No kidding. Maybe I'm not smart but what does a palm mute kick start even do?

 

[AzN1337c0d3r]

Anyway the iPhone 5 is lighter than all of the plastic competitors, so I am not even sure where the poster you originally quoted was goon with this one!

It's only lighter because its smaller. If you scale down the Galaxy S3 weight with respect to the iPhone 5 volume, the Galaxy S3 will be lighter.

 

[lordofthereef]

And Samsung innovates by stealing (which has been proven)

I am counting the days before this argument overtakes the "this would have never happened under Job's watch" posts.

The patent system is incredibly flawed, at least in the US. There are plenty of countries where Apple v Samsung lawsuits got thrown out (in your terms it was "proven" they did NOT copy). I am not saying they did or they didn't, just that the patent system in the US is really, REALLY effed up. In many ways I am glad there are suites like this happening. Eventually try will lead to reform (I hope).

 

[janderson0719]

This ad does nothing more but make me laugh.

Oh Samsung, .

 

[wikus]

Right. Because as you just inferred, Samsung will steal ("Samsung taking their market share using any means") whatever they can from Apple.
Apple has to continuously innovate and Samsung can simple not innovate and steal from Apple.

Far from it. Perhaps you should do a bit of simple research. Apple is the largest publicly traded company (but not private) by market cap (shares outanding times market price).

There are plenty of companies that have a larger income, more employees, more profit, etc.

I think other forum members would take you seriously if you didnt exhibit such a strong case of bias.

Proof:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QU9ZUiy2pAI

 

[alexxxhp]

and remove the

Palm Touch Mute Pause

the palm makes it heavy.

 

[verniesgarden]

No man, "Palm Touch Mute Pause" has got to be the bestest feature EVAR!


But in all seriousness, that sounds like they took random smartphone keywords out of a hat just to put it on the list as another feature.

it reminds me of an episode of the office where BJ Novaks character is just throwing out buzzwords

 

[lordofthereef]

It's only lighter because its smaller. If you scale down the Galaxy S3 weight with respect to the iPhone 5 volume, the Galaxy S3 will be lighter.

That's fine and dandy. We are talking about weight. It's a lighter phone. Te phone is already under 4oz. Not sure how much lighter people want/need the thing to be.

For the record, I don't think I'll be gettin one, so I have nothing invested in protecting the iPhone 5.

 

[Chris CA]

Can I get an example?

-> Top 50 IT companies ranked by annual revenue (not market capitalization)

 

[macsmurf]

Samsung is so petty.

Apple has plenty of features that Samsung/Google don't mention in that ad, such as iCloud, which is FAR more integrated and reliable than Google.

Plus, "tilt to zoom", are you kidding me?

******** ad, and it shouldn't take a genius to realize that

Well, apparently Apple already patented to obvious ways to zoom (doubletap and pinch) and apprently these patents are enforceable. What to do?

 

[Chris CA]

I think other forum members would take you seriously if you didnt exhibit such a strong case of bias.

Proof:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QU9ZUiy2pAI

Well, there you go. I have definitely changed my mind.
Anyone want to buy a 6 month old iPhone 4S?
Or trade for an equal GalaxyIII?

Obviously, you have absolutely no idea what he (or Pablo Picasso) meant by, "Good artists copy. Great artists steal".

 

[Reach9]

And Samsung innovates by stealing (which has been proven) from Apple?

Except there was no licensing that would have happened for what they stole from Apple.

They aren't. Samsung revenue is about 3 to 1 vs Apple. And Apple is still behind AT&T, HP and Hitachi. They are 6th according to revenue (Wikipedia - 2011 stats)

Correct me if i'm wrong, but i believe Apple approached Samsung with an option for licensing, and Samsung declined. So actually there was licensing possibilities.

Again, we were talking in terms of market cap. Here

 

[janderson0719]

Thanks for wallpaper Samsung.

 

[subsonix]

Thanks for wallpaper Samsung.

Slide to unlock, right on that list puts the icing on the cake.

 

[mentaluproar]

This is childish.

 

[Chris CA]

Correct me if i'm wrong, but i believe Apple approached Samsung with an option for licensing, and Samsung declined

Apple approached Samsung and said they were copying Apple patents (not FRAND) and should stop. Samsung declined.
Apple also approached Samsung in reference to Apple licensing FRAND patents Samsung holds but Samsung declined to license them.
The very nature of FRAND (fair, reasonable and non-discriminatory) means you cannot deny a license to anyone.

 

[joekun]

The next big thing is already here, it runs a year old operating system that you better get used to. You'll be running it for the duration of that two year contract you're going to sign.