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See Samsung's Sunday newspaper ad about the iPhone 5. Whats your thoughts? (merged)

wikus said:
it omits the LG Prada as well... that argument has been debunked many times, im tired of people even still making it.
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But the iPhone was first in a touch phone. Those samsung phones (pre iphone) OS was not like they are today. Samsung completely copy the look of iOS and the iPhone
 
Chris CA said:
Right. Because as you just inferred, Samsung will steal ("Samsung taking their market share using any means") whatever they can from Apple.
Apple has to continuously innovate and Samsung can simple not innovate and steal from Apple.

Far from it. Perhaps you should do a bit of simple research. Apple is the largest publicly traded company (but not private) by market cap (shares outanding times market price).

There are plenty of companies that have a larger income, more employees, more profit, etc.
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Here's a list of the largest quarterly profits in history. Apple comes in 4th and is the only company on the list that's not oil or gas.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...gest_Corporate_Quarterly_Earnings_of_All_Time

In this list there are only 6 companies with higher annual profits than Apple recorded in FY11.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_corporate_profits_and_losses

Sure there are lots of companies with more employees and more revenue. But when it comes to profit, cash and market cap Apple is top dog right now.
 
wikus said:
I wasnt talking about Samsung in this comment.
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Of course you did, the context was the wall paper from Samsung's ad, the lawsuit with Samsung and slide to unlock.

wikus said:
What difference does it make if it was good or bad? It clearly shows that Apple didnt innovate.
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No it didn't, it shows that someone found an obscure phone who had something that was vaguely similar. Are you saying that iPhone is just like an LG Prada? If so how come the LG Prada was a huge failure. That is my point, both phones used a touch screen, that does not mean that Apple copied LG or that LG did any meaningful innovation that had any consequences for the phones that followed, quite the contrary, it's a phone that quickly disappeared and everyone forgot about.

Neo node was more of an experiment, that looked like a prototype. Apple managed to make a slide to unlock that is very appealing and well executed, Samsung took that idea. Anyone with a pair of eyes and any kind of design sense can see that.
 
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TigerWoodsIV said:
I'm also only offended by this ad because it's so bad and Samsung probably puts a TON of money into marketing. So I'm offended by how bad a job they did with this, not that they'd do it. The genius line is the only part that was clever.
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Your offended by an ad? I'm offended by the fact that USA illegally invaded a Middle East country under false pretextes so they can steal their natural resources and implement permanent military bases to start more series of conflicts so they could implement a third world war to create a planetary fascist police state...

But no, its Samsungs ad that offends others. :rolleyes:
 
wikus said:
Strongest case to counter your argument is the LG Prada, which renders your case invalid.
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and Apple had a single button, touchscreen, full screen iPhone prototype in August 2005, 16 months before the Prada was announced. (Samsung attempted to use this argument but it got tossed out)
 
Moshe1010 said:
Apple lost in Japan and Korea (Korean judge said that both companies used others patents). It was clear that Apple, which is based in the US, would win in US court over Korean based company - Samsung. Anyway, Apple hasn't won yet, they need to go through courts of appeals, which can take years.
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Samsung is also a Korean company... So your argument goes both ways. It's pretty obvious no matter what the case, the end product is a blatant copy of an iPhone. I'm sure they both try and use each others patents as much as possible without going overboard and getting sued, but come on Samsung, it's pretty obvious in this case.
 
wikus said:
Your offended by an ad? I'm offended by the fact that USA illegally invaded a Middle East country under false pretextes so they can steal their natural resources and implement permanent military bases to start more series of conflicts so they could implement a third world war to create a planetary fascist police state...

But no, its Samsungs ad that offends others. :rolleyes:
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Wow, really? So because there are worse things in life we can't be offended by anything else? Get a grip man.

Not that I'm offended by the ad...but your argument sucks.
 
alexxxhp said:
I think android should be in competition with the food industry if they see these numbers they will want to sue......

if they put and android stand selling phones in a supermarket they would own the market industry. They sound delicious.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_version_history
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How can a "Jelly Bean" be an upgrade over an "Ice Cream Sandwich"?
If I was google 4.0 should of been Jelly Bean then 4.1 should of been name Ice Cream Sandwich.
 
macosxuser01 said:
But the iPhone was first in a touch phone. Those samsung phones (pre iphone) OS was not like they are today. Samsung completely copy the look of iOS and the iPhone
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Wrong.

The LG Prada was the first touch screen phone. Heres a 5 year old video before the iPhone was around:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mo7Ab6ZcJ4

Why is it that apple fans believe apple invented basically everything??
 
TigerWoodsIV said:
I'm sure they both try and use each others patents as much as possible without going overboard and getting sued.
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Using someone else's idea? Not so much of a problem. Just innovate that idea so it is unique.
Using someone else's patent? Definitely a problem!
 
macosxuser01 said:
How can a "Jelly Bean" be an upgrade over an "Ice Cream Sandwich"?
If I was google 4.0 should of been Jelly Bean then 4.1 should of been name Ice Cream Sandwich.
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Eclair should be the update not ICE CREAM SANDWICH like everything else android does backwards they eat the sweets then have dinner
 
Chris CA said:
and Apple had a single button, touchscreen, full screen iPhone prototype in August 2005, 16 months before the Prada was announced. (Samsung attempted to use this argument but it got tossed out)
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And that counts for what exactly? If it wasn't in the public domain, it might as well have never existed. (Samsung didn't and it wasn't!)

I also had similar device in my bedroom back in 1991....I didn't tell anyone about it though...:rolleyes:
 
Geckotek said:
Wow, really? So because there are worse things in life we can't be offended by anything else? Get a grip man.

Not that I'm offended by the ad...but your argument sucks.
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My argument sucks? Your priorities are out of wack. So what if youre offended by an advertisement? Grow up, youre an adult, deal with it. Nothing happens if youre offended by that ad. Your precious iPhone isnt going to be taken away by the existence of some ad.

But apparently being offended by the slaughter of innocent men, women, children and american soldiers who were lied to only to be murdered by this war is illegitimate? I swear to god I cannot believe how insanely ignorant that is.
 
Chris CA said:
and Apple had a single button, touchscreen, full screen iPhone prototype in August 2005, 16 months before the Prada was announced. (Samsung attempted to use this argument but it got tossed out)
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Wrong again.

The LG Prada was the first touch screen phone. Heres a 5 year old video before the iPhone was around:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mo7Ab6ZcJ4

Why is it that apple fans believe apple invented basically everything?? I feel like I'm constantly repeating myself in this thread.
 
wikus said:
So? The LG Prada was first announced on December 12, 2006 nearly a month before the iPhone.
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So you are suggesting that, apple made the iPhone in one month after they copied LG Prada? Sorry, but that is ridiculous.
 
wikus said:
My argument sucks? Your priorities are out of wack. So what if youre offended by an advertisement? Grow up, youre an adult, deal with it. Nothing happens if youre offended by that ad. Your precious iPhone isnt going to be taken away by the existence of some ad.

But apparently being offended by the slaughter of innocent men, women, children and american soldiers who were lied to only to be murdered by this war is illegitimate? I swear to god I cannot believe how insanely ignorant that is.
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Seriously, you can't say my priorities are out of whack because you have no clue what my priorities are. Anything you can deduce from me being on this forum is equally true of you. Outside this forum, we know nothing about each other.

Nobody here is saying being offended by the slaughter of innocent people is illegitmate. It's completely stupid that you even infer that. But perhaps you have reading comprehension issues.

So, is there nothing you are offended about other than the US invasion of Middle Eastern countries? Of course there are. Being worried about things that are bigger than ourselves doesn't preclude us from being bothered by smaller things. The entire idea is ludicrous.

By your logic, if that situation is so worth all of our attention and we can't be offended by anything else, then you and anyone else so worried about it should be off this forum and out fighting it. But that is also a ludicrous statement.

There's no reason we can't be upset by small things in life. Get over it.
 
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