See Samsung's Sunday newspaper ad about the iPhone 5. Whats your thoughts? (merged)

[314631]

-2GB Ram (misleading)

Android is far far worse of a resourse hog than the iPhone but either way few smartphones will ever make use of any ram above 1GB. There will be no performance difference between the two due to ram

Not really misleading. Both Android and iOS apps could theoretically reference at least 2.5GB RAM if the device had that much memory. And there is a difference on iOS devices with less RAM than current models. You'll find iOS apps are forced to quit inelegantly a lot more frequently on older devices containing less RAM than current models due to memory constraints.

I haven't tested Jelly Bean yet, and I may never get the chance of my current Android device, but definitely I agree ICS has serious performance issues that can lock up devices pretty bad.

- A totally different lightning plug vs Standard Micro USB plug. (meaningless)

It's just a plug, both will eventually terminate in a USB plug or a peripheral. The real difference would be what comes after the plug ie the cable, which people will mainly care about the price of the lightning stuff until someone releases a chinese versions for $0.50

Not meaningless. Being able to use a universal plug to connect a range of different devices is definitely a positive thing. Being able to connect a camera to a Mac without playing hunt the Panasonic proprietary plug is definitely a positive thing. More and more non-Apple devices have been getting on board the Micro USB standard, and that's a positive thing for consumers.

Lightning also has a much higher throughput than USB.

Not really. "The advantages are mostly passed on through hardware design — not necessarily around performance."

http://techcrunch.com/2012/09/12/apples-new-lightning-connector-what-it-does-and-doesnt-change/

- All the other marketing terms for their features. (very very misleading)

Almost all marketing is misleading by design. Even Apple marketing.

Each OS has thousands of features the other OS doesn't. To not list the many featurs iOS has while listing yours is and outright atempt to be misleading.

Their job is to sell Samsung devices not promote Apple's in a positive light. Advertising doesn't claim to be fair. They come up with the comparisons that are favorable to their device and advertise them. That's what any good company what do.

In any comparison between the features between the two it's worth noting that the iPhone 5 is made of better materials, has the Samsung Exynos 5 processor (Apple's version of) versus the SIII's Samsung Exynos 4 in the international Galaxy SIII. (The Us Galaxy SIII of course has different slower procesor than the SIII international version too). It's also thinner, has better microphones, has better call quality, has better cameras and better speakers.

It sounds like you been blessed with the opportunity to have tested the new iPhone 5 extensively having drawn so many positive conclusions about Apple's new phone.

 

[Atari5001]

Jesus Christ, Samsung - sour fricking grapes!!! Just be thankful for getting where you are with the help of some blatant, shameless thievery. Without Apple, you would've been nothing in the smartphone marketplace - NOTHING!

⬆True

 

[matttye]

True because you work at Apple? BS

Why is this place so damn cynical?

Apple didn't become the richest company in the world by making friends. They're ruthless. They always charge over the odds for their products, and they've made questionable decisions on a number of exclusions from their devices.

Flash - potentially takes away customers who would buy games, if they can just play Flash games.
Lack of external storage solutions (MicroSD) - they want people to buy a bigger iPhone.
MicroUSB - they don't want you to be able to use generic accessories that suit a myriad of products, they want you to use their over priced accessories.

Need I go on?

 

[canesalato]

Apple didn't become the richest company in the world by making friends. They're ruthless. They always charge over the odds for their products, and they've made questionable decisions on a number of exclusions from their devices.

Flash - potentially takes away customers who would buy games, if they can just play Flash games.
Lack of external storage solutions (MicroSD) - they want people to buy a bigger iPhone.
MicroUSB - they don't want you to be able to use generic accessories that suit a myriad of products, they want you to use their over priced accessories.

Need I go on?

Yes, please

 

[kokako]

samsung - what a company! what a truly pathetic ad campaign, if I stole all of my music then I probably wouldn't mind buying a phone that stole most of what went into it's brick design.

I suggest if you need something Apple doesn't make go Sony, they were an electronics company that invented tech rather then just stole.

You get what you get SAMSTOLE

 

[charlesdayton]

This ad is silly. It just gives the iPhone 5 more exposure. Seems like a desperate attempt that will backfire. People are not naive enough for this ad.

 

[pandamonia]

samsung - what a company! what a truly pathetic ad campaign, if I stole all of my music then I probably wouldn't mind buying a phone that stole most of what went into it's brick design.

I suggest if you need something Apple doesn't make go Sony, they were an electronics company that invented tech rather then just stole.

You get what you get SAMSTOLE

Apple Ran them vs PC for years and they weren't any better. Short memory Apple Fanboys have

 

[Cavalier777]

truth is there's not a good phone on the market.

 

[Theophany]

ITT:

It's an advert. It's designed to convince people to buy their product. It's actually quite disturbing that you're all going jihad over it. Have you all forgotten Apple's attack ads over the years?

Oh, and two words for everybody going on about Samsung being thieves:

XEROX PARC.

Jesus...

 

[darkslayer13]

The last line (which is the only line any smartphone user cares about) should read:

Apple - Simply works
Samsung - Simply buggy

 

[matttye]

Yes, please

- Withholding voice commands from the iPhone 3G.
- Withholding Siri from the iPhone 4/iPad 2.
- Withholding turn-by-turn and flyover from the iPhone 4.
- Withholding multitasking from the iPhone 3G.
- Withholding MMS from the original iPhone.

Too easy

 

[jamesryanbell]

Apple: Not found by a court to be infringing design patents.
Samsung: Found by a court to be infringing design patents.

 

[matttye]

The last line (which is the only line any smartphone user cares about) should read:

Apple - Simply works
Samsung - Simply buggy

My phone isn't buggy at all. Have you used one or are you going by what other Apple fans have said?

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Apple: Not found by a court to be infringing design patents.
Samsung: Found by a court to be infringing design patents.

Apple: Not found by a court to be infringing design patents. (but still thieves)
Samsung: Found by a court to be infringing design patents.

 

[kiljoy616]

More like

Apple: Sues over anything

And so they should if a company can only copy and make nothing of their own.

Your basically saying you and the rest of the haters don't want an iphone but they will buy a bloatware loaded copy ROFL.

 

[darkslayer13]

My phone isn't buggy at all. Have you used one or are you going by what other Apple fans have said?

My girlfriend has it and it already stopped working after the last wireless update. Now she only gets 4 hours of usage out of it because there are hidden apps running in the background draining her memory which she has no control to stop. She also has to continually reset it because it freezes on her often.

Doesnt matter how good of specs your phone is. If you are running android, you know you've had some problems at some point. I have owned 4 iPhones now. At least each one gets better and better as apple only creates one device and one software, and perfects them. This past year I have owned the 4S, I have not had a single issue or had to reset my phone for any reason - and I use my phone ALL the time.

I don't really think the iPhone 5 is that great of an update. But one thing i'm sure of is that it will work!

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My phone isn't buggy at all. Have you used one or are you going by what other Apple fans have said?
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Apple: Not found by a court to be infringing design patents. (but still thieves)
Samsung: Found by a court to be infringing design patents.

 

[driceman]

I'd like to know if those battery life statements are accurate. The 5 isn't out yet so I guess we'll have to wait and see, but who's gotten 11 hours of talk time on the Galaxy?

 

[kiljoy616]

If Samsung, MS, Sony, Google, Motorola or anyone else does sleazy marketing its petty and pathetic
If Apple does sleazy advertising its art

Its an ad and it does make a point whether we accept it or not so why the heck is anyone offended? Just because we prefer Apple products doesnt mean competition shouldnt exist.

Apple adds are smart and funny, only bad ones was those terrible adds with Genius which makes me wonder who came up with that lame excuse for an add.

 

[darkslayer13]

Lol, remember what phones were like before the iPhone, or are you still too young to remember flip phones....! Apple has invented smartphones and apps, and only tries to perfect that one thing. Every other company has just been trying to play catchup by copying its success.

Apple: Not found by a court to be infringing design patents. (but still thieves)
Samsung: Found by a court to be infringing design patents.

 

[MH01]

Both good phones.

Was hoping that Iphone 5 would KO the Samsung S3, though sadly as the ads shows, the iphone has just evolved from the 4, hardly innovation.

I have pre-ordered a 5, though as a Fan am disappointed that this is the least innovative major release. I was really hoping for a new design, tech specs are irrelevant to the average user.

In one way pissed off that Apple is suing everyone, and as a result we the end users see less innovation from them. The Iphone 5 is just another kid on the block, when he used to be THE kid. Also facepalmed when I saw the new ipod nano, especially after all this legal BS, just to have it look like the Lumina 900. Be good to see apple sack the lawyers and get some fresh blood to innovate.

Will wait to the 21st to compare it to the Iphone 4 I have, and make up my decsion if its enough of a jump or return it and stick with the 4. This is the first time ever I have considered not updating to a new model in a major release, sadly it still just looks like an Iphone 4, which i think is a brilliant design, and frankly I think the longer shape might be more awkward compared to the 4 which if bloody awesome. Next friday I will know.

 

[matttye]

My girlfriend has it and it already stopped working after the last wireless update. Now she only gets 4 hours of usage out of it because there are hidden apps running in the background draining her memory which she has no control to stop. She also has to continually reset it because it freezes on her often.

Doesnt matter how good of specs your phone is. If you are running android, you know you've had some problems at some point. I have owned 4 iPhones now. At least each one gets better and better as apple only creates one device and one software, and perfects them. This past year I have owned the 4S, I have not had a single issue or had to reset my phone for any reason - and I use my phone ALL the time.

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First of all, "hidden apps running in the background" CAN be stopped. Ask her to buy Better Battery Stats (cheap) or download one of the free alternatives from the Play Store. This will show her which wakelocks she's suffering from and advise her as to how to solve the issues. For example, there used to be a bug in Google Chrome that causes the gyroscope to constantly be in use and that drained the battery. Better Battery Stats told me how to fix the problem.

If her phone is constantly resetting then she should have it replaced under warranty as that's not normal. I don't know why people think that Android crashing, freezing and rebooting all the time is normal - if you experienced that with an iPhone you would get it replaced. My phone hardly ever freezes.

I've had one major issue with my phone since I got it in May, and that was only after I flashed some firmware on it using ODIN, so it was kinda my own fault.

Crashing and freezing is NOT normal, even for Android.

 

[Theophany]

Lol, remember what phones were like before the iPhone, or are you still too young to remember flip phones....! Apple has invented smartphones and apps, and only tries to perfect that one thing. Every other company has just been trying to play catchup by copying its success.

HP iPAQ, Nokia Communicator, Palm Treo... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smartphone

Clearly you were born in 2007. Your worldly wisdom is incredible.

 

[matttye]

Lol, remember what phones were like before the iPhone, or are you still too young to remember flip phones....! Apple has invented smartphones and apps, and only tries to perfect that one thing. Every other company has just been trying to play catchup by copying its success.

I agree that Apple reinvented the phone and made apps popular (they weren't the first with an app store - Ubuntu had one before Apple), but I think other companies have now surpassed Apple.

We owe a lot to Apple, but they're no longer the best.

 

[darkslayer13]

Lol, exactly. You shouldnt have to download apps to solve known problems with a device. Again, I leave you with:

Apple - works
Samsung - kinda works.

First of all, "hidden apps running in the background" CAN be stopped. Ask her to buy Better Battery Stats (cheap) or download one of the free alternatives from the Play Store. This will show her which wakelocks she's suffering from and advise her as to how to solve the issues. For example, there used to be a bug in Google Chrome that causes the gyroscope to constantly be in use and that drained the battery. Better Battery Stats told me how to fix the problem.

If her phone is constantly resetting then she should have it replaced under warranty as that's not normal. I don't know why people think that Android crashing, freezing and rebooting all the time is normal - if you experienced that with an iPhone you would get it replaced. My phone hardly ever freezes.

I've had one major issue with my phone since I got it in May, and that was only after I flashed some firmware on it using ODIN, so it was kinda my own fault.

Crashing and freezing is NOT normal, even for Android.

 

[machestnut]

Just shows you how much they Fear Apple!

 

[MH01]

Apple adds are smart and funny, only bad ones was those terrible adds with Genius which makes me wonder who came up with that lame excuse for an add.

The I am a PC, I am a MAC ads made out Apple users to be arrogant douchebags.

The least said about the use of the word Magical the better, only one company is arogant enough to claim a device is magical.

Though, Apple does not think these ads up, its the agencies they use, even 1984 was not an Apple idea, it was the agency. Brilliant Brilliant ad.

Agree with the current Genius ads, they went too far, making people out to be morons..... whoever approved that at Apple should be forced to play genius in a store for 6 months