See Samsung's Sunday newspaper ad about the iPhone 5. Whats your thoughts? (merged)

[kiljoy616]

Exactly. The population in general is stupid. I'd guess 80%+ do not know how to download an app in order to solve a technical issue on their own. For those other 20%, yes, they should go with a galaxy and solve all the problems without any help. But thats why apple is still doing so well, because they make their products simple, easy to use, and as well built in the inside AND outside to give the consumer the least amount of grief. This is true not only with the iPhone, but ALL of their products. I have yet to see a popup blue kernel screen on a mac. On the PC I got good enough to be able to fix them on my own when I was younger, but not everyone can do that. If you ever owned a PC, you have seen that blue screen....guaranteed.

It not that we all need to get better because we don't. I work in the IT field but as I tell other, MS makes turd garbage I deal with it every day. When your degree is medicine wtf do you need to also learn useless lame computer troubleshooting? Same for every field that has absolutely nothing to do with troubleshooting computers.

People in 2012 should not have to figure out again and again how to deal with stupid DLL corruptions or system failures do to bloated software. No they should be able to plug and play and if something does go wrong be able to get a quick resolution. MS of course never really cared about the consumer since their whole push was always corp and IT departments who pay for professionals to deal with mindless numbing problems day in and day out.

 

[machestnut]

Ummm..what about thw I'm a Mac, I'm a PC ads?

Short term memory here?

Painting PC users as boring dull people. Well it also painted Mac users as pretentious hipsters d***bags you just want to punch right in the face.

oops I forgot the Mac/PC ads, you're correct!

 

[kiljoy616]

lolwut?

What you could not read?

 

[Windlasher]

What about Microsoft in an Apple ad?

Apple said: I'm a Mac and I'm a PC.

PC: Everyone out there, platform, not manufacturer.

 

[kiljoy616]

Why should I, as a consumer, care about Apple's stock price? Why do you, as a consumer, care about Apple's stock price?

Apple charge more for their devices and accessories, hence why they have a higher profit margin.

Because some people here own stocks kid. Apple charges more because we expect the best when it comes to user satisfaction. Dell could care less and MS is not better. Your just use to turd dropping in the PC side so garbage is fine as long as you can get at least half your work done.

 

[dudemac]

Samsung is so petty.

Apple has plenty of features that Samsung/Google don't mention in that ad, such as iCloud, which is FAR more integrated and reliable than Google.

Plus, "tilt to zoom", are you kidding me?

******** ad, and it shouldn't take a genius to realize that

I am switching because of iCloud. I don't know what services that you are referring to as reliable. But I have had nothing but issues.
And this is coming from a person who has used .Mac/.me/.icloud since 2002.
Has 3 iphones, a couple of itouchs, and lots of ipods. The only thing that seems to work right is iTunes and music in the cloud. The rest of it is pretty much crap. HTML 5 is great but I fee like Apple is abusing it and we have reverted back to 1997 when the web had all kinds of things to make your trasition from paper to the screen more visiually freindly. Someone might want to tell them that it is 2012 and having leather on the screen does not make anything more functional or eligant its just ugly. Just look at the iCloud version of the notes app. There is almost 2" of the list covered with a leather looking corner. And the highighting is with a red circle.......
I must have gotten lucky the last time around with the mobile me transition because for the most part I had no issues. But when you pay for something for so long and then it just to go away with no real solution like getting your calendars and tasks to show up on your non upgradeable snow leopard. I finally got mail to work, but the amount of searching for the solution was not cool. Why not just release a control panel for the new service. That way even if somethings will not work, at least you would not have to pull your hair out trying to get your email.
And I don't know but this seems to have carried over from mobile me. Duplicate contacts. Especially ones that have not been changed in years. How is it possible to end up with 23 for Apple alone. Anyway, restarting the sync helps for a while and we will see if it holds this time, but it is pretty annoying.
And as for why I would like to use Mail on snow leopard as opposed to the web client, I have been using mail for enough years and have lots of rules. And since icloud the rules doen't sync between clients anymore, and don't show up in the rules on the web interface? Who let this crap go is what I want to know. It might be easier to take if they would show us the road map and at least let us know if some of this is coming back.

As for the phones. I just picked up a Gnex unlocked. So far it's great and everything is working really well. Transition was easier than I though it would be. NFC is pretty cool. Using at the grocery store, and Home Depot to pay. And as a old time palm user, I hope more things get the NFC beam to share function.

 

[matttye]

Yes, but what % of consumers know how to do things like us?

15%....20%?

Apple is doing so well because they are creating products for the majority. They know their customer base and know how to market products well. Thats why they are a force to be reckoned with - because no other company does this. They just put out product after product and hope that one will match up with apple's.

I agree with what you're saying, but what I'm saying is that for the technology literate among us I think that Android is a better OS. It can do a lot more than iOS can, it just needs a little more work from the user to make it work as they want it to.

There's an app for Android called "Tasker" that can automate EVERYTHING. When it gets to 11pm on a worknight, my phone silences itself. It turns the volume back on at 7am. Between 8:30am and 5pm on workdays, it silences itself. When I connect my phone to my car's bluetooth, it launches Spotify for me. When I connect to my bluetooth speaker at home, it launches Spotify for me.

I have an NFC tag by the door to my house that toggles WiFi on/off, so I just have to scan my phone on my way in/out.

If I want to enable bluetooth/WiFi at any other time, I just pull down the notification bar and use the shortcuts that are kept there.

I have my agenda on my home screen so I can see it at a glance. I can add to it, read what I've got to it or cross things off that I've done. I can make decent use of the real estate on my home screens because my apps are confined to the app drawer. They don't use up all of my valuable home screen space.

I can attach ANY file to an email as I have access to the file system. I can share files to any service that supports the Android sharing API, not just ones that the manufacturer chooses for me.

With Jelly Bean, I can read bigger previews of emails, messages and other notifications by dragging them down with two fingers to expand the content. I can reply, share etc directly from the notification itself. The OS is very smooth, comparable to iOS now. Google Now and voice search are very fluid and respond quickly.

If I don't like a particular app with my S3, I can hide the application from the app drawer so that I don't have to see it.

I can expand the storage available to me by using a MicroSD card.

I can use WiFi direct or S-Beam to quickly transfer files to those around me.

It can just do more. A lot more.

 

[Windlasher]

Hilarious to see apple fanboys butthurt over this seeing how Apple's been doing this same thing for YEARS against microsoft and the whole PC industry.

I guess everyone forgot about the 'I'm a Mac, I'm a PC' ads, huh?

Apple said: I'm a Mac and I'm a PC.

PC = Everyone out there, platform, not manufacturer or specific product.

 

[flameproof]

If Apple added inductive charging they'd make less profits....

Nope, they would make more profits. For sure the wireless charger would NOT be included in the sales pack and sold separately. Wireless charging would be an optional feature.

And I wouldn't use it. I have a cable at home, in the office, in the car. I would not pay $200 for 3 chargers. BTW, I don't find connecting the cable to the phone is a big technical challenge.

 

[daveathall]

I get the impression that most here think that unless one goes deep into settings and make huge alterations to the operating system then an S3 will not work properly, it's simply untrue, I am not technically minded, but straight from the box my S3 worked quite easily, I didn't need to read instructions, I didn't need to uninstall bloatware, I didn't need to go into settings to make the phone work. It just did. Over the following month's I then did more and more to customise the phone as I like it. I had that choice. Guess what? It still works flawlessly, no lag, no jerkiness, no crashes and still as fast as my 3GS, 4 and 4S ever worked.

 

[matttye]

Because some people here own stocks kid. Apple charges more because we expect the best when it comes to user satisfaction. Dell could care less and MS is not better. Your just use to turd dropping in the PC side so garbage is fine as long as you can get at least half your work done.

Even if you own stocks, why use that in an argument with a consumer about why Apple is better? Seems like a pretty stupid argument to me.

I couldn't give two hoots about Apple's stock price.

 

[cynics]

Android fans needs to look at Apples Stock Price. Enough said on who is winning the battle. The battle was over in 2007. Sorry Android

Because this is important to the end consumer that doesn't own stock.

Apple enthusiast should never bring up Apples $$$$. They have so much of it because they have such an incredibly high profit margin (40-50%). Half of the price of the phone is purely for a bank account. When I did sales 40-50% profit was grimy salesman ripping off old ladies tactics.

Only redeeming things are, 1. If you buy on contract the carrier absorbs most of that cost. 2. Very high resale so you can recoup the loss.

I own Apple stock.

 

[Steviejobz]

It's disingenuous to call the Galaxy a pos as many in this thread have. Reeks of fanboism. That said, having used the S3 it is a pretty sweet phone, fast operating system, and some nifty, albeit novelty, features. However for my taste and perhaps for many iPhone owners, it is too big and the switching costs (from purchased apps to the ecosystem) are too high given these marginal (at best) features. Maybe from those moving from a Nokia or Blackberry there can be a reasonable debate. But very few iPhone owners it is a non-starter.

 

[Hezzaa]

"Palm touch to mute/pause:
Mute or pause sounds by covering screen with your hand while playing media with the screen on"

Uhm? Ok, why would I need to do that?

 

[matttye]

"Palm touch to mute/pause:
Mute or pause sounds by covering screen with your hand while playing media with the screen on"

Uhm? Ok, why would I need to do that?

Samsung's usual example is if your phone rings in the middle of a meeting and you need to quickly silence it, but I think most people would have the foresight to mute the phone before going into a meeting.

 

[NumberNine]

I agree with what you're saying, but what I'm saying is that for the technology literate among us I think that Android is a better OS. It can do a lot more than iOS can, it just needs a little more work from the user to make it work as they want it to.

There's an app for Android called "Tasker" that can automate EVERYTHING. When it gets to 11pm on a worknight, my phone silences itself. It turns the volume back on at 7am. Between 8:30am and 5pm on workdays, it silences itself. When I connect my phone to my car's bluetooth, it launches Spotify for me. When I connect to my bluetooth speaker at home, it launches Spotify for me.

I have an NFC tag by the door to my house that toggles WiFi on/off, so I just have to scan my phone on my way in/out.

If I want to enable bluetooth/WiFi at any other time, I just pull down the notification bar and use the shortcuts that are kept there.

I have my agenda on my home screen so I can see it at a glance. I can add to it, read what I've got to it or cross things off that I've done. I can make decent use of the real estate on my home screens because my apps are confined to the app drawer. They don't use up all of my valuable home screen space.

I can attach ANY file to an email as I have access to the file system. I can share files to any service that supports the Android sharing API, not just ones that the manufacturer chooses for me.

With Jelly Bean, I can read bigger previews of emails, messages and other notifications by dragging them down with two fingers to expand the content. I can reply, share etc directly from the notification itself. The OS is very smooth, comparable to iOS now. Google Now and voice search are very fluid and respond quickly.

If I don't like a particular app with my S3, I can hide the application from the app drawer so that I don't have to see it.

I can expand the storage available to me by using a MicroSD card.

I can use WiFi direct or S-Beam to quickly transfer files to those around me.

It can just do more. A lot more.

This^

Android is so far ahead of iOS.

 

[Hezzaa]

Samsung's usual example is if your phone rings in the middle of a meeting and you need to quickly silence it, but I think most people would have the foresight to mute the phone before going into a meeting.

But isn't flip to mute for that? I assume you would've be watching movies or playing music in the middle of a meeting?

 

[mixel]

What an awful and comically dishonest ad. I don't think anyone will be fooled by such a crazy breakdown.. Even the biggest iNewbie uses a lot of iOS specific features that could've just as easily be used as bullet-points in the iPhone's favour. Many of which are a lot more useful than "tilt to scroll" and "turn over to mute"

I DO like the S3, but I think Samsung need some new marketing ideas.

 

[sammich]

"Palm touch to mute/pause:
Mute or pause sounds by covering screen with your hand while playing media with the screen on"

Uhm? Ok, why would I need to do that?

Because reaching over and hitting a volume button is too hard.

 

[matttye]

But isn't flip to mute for that? I assume you would've be watching movies or playing music in the middle of a meeting?

They've just added multiple ways of accomplishing the same thing. Just like how you can take a screenshot either by holding home+power, or by swiping sideways across the screen.

Palm touch mutes phone calls too, but I guess it is more made for media.

 

[gr8hii]

They left off...

LTE voice +Data (Sprint/Verizon).... Still annoyed about this on the iPhone 5. I skipped the S on Verizon waiting in this very feature.

 

[pandamonia]

My girlfriend has it and it already stopped working after the last wireless update. Now she only gets 4 hours of usage out of it because there are hidden apps running in the background draining her memory which she has no control to stop. She also has to continually reset it because it freezes on her often.

Doesnt matter how good of specs your phone is. If you are running android, you know you've had some problems at some point. I have owned 4 iPhones now. At least each one gets better and better as apple only creates one device and one software, and perfects them. This past year I have owned the 4S, I have not had a single issue or had to reset my phone for any reason - and I use my phone ALL the time.

I don't really think the iPhone 5 is that great of an update. But one thing i'm sure of is that it will work!

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I call Bull Crap.

 

[Stella]

The responses on here from the insulted Apple users are far more entertaining than the ad itself!

Personally, I couldn't care less about that ad.. each phone has their strengths and weaknesses. People will buy what they prefer.

 

[bobob]

Android is so far ahead of iOS.

I agree if you're talking about the tweaker market.

However, for those of us who have other work to do than fine-tuning their phone, iOS remains far ahead.

 

[jca666us]

It just goes to show that Samsung is a lot more worried about the iPhone 5 than they are letting on. Comparative advertising is less effective since by definition it draws attention to the competition. Apple's "I'm a Mac" campaign was a little bit different since it was humorous and never actually went into a spec by spec comparison.

It also shows that Samsung learned nothing from the trial they LOST.

They see nothing special about the iPhone 5 - and they see nothing of blatantly copying whatever they want.