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50548

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Apple must be scared of Samsung if they are going to court against them in nearly every relevant country to try and ban sales of their phones.

That's what copycats deserve for blatantly and willfully infringing on patents. Do you see Apple suing MS, RIM or HP for that matter?

I am getting an iPhone 5 anyway, and couldn't care less about that buggy monstrosity called Galaxy.
 

r3m1

macrumors regular
Apr 7, 2012
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Man, lot of butt-hurt going on here. I think it's a pretty smart add and very effective. It's for the masses, remember? And it's the first real competition Apple has had. Get over it.

Agree -- people here should get over it. I remember the same kind of ads when Apple was up against Microsoft.

If it is not the Samsung S3, it is the Nokia --- within 6 months there will be better phone to beat them all.

The iPhone 5 is the phone they should have released 1 year ago to keep up with the Jonesses.
 

Winni

macrumors 68040
Oct 15, 2008
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This ad only shows that Samsung is kind of desperate…And they try to drive attention of the buyers to S3…But from how I see it, it will just move buyers toward iPhone 5 instead.

This type of marketing that involve comparison is usually not so good idea.

But hey this is just my 2cent

The world market leader is desperate? Now why would that be? Even if they might have to pay that billion dollars to Apple when the legal fight some day is finally over, "in the grand scheme of things, that is just a speeding ticket". They still out-sell Apple and everybody else in the smartphone market. And it doesn't take a genius to figure out why that is: They have GREAT products in all price segments.

Marketing that involves comparison is not a good idea? Maybe. It's illegal in many countries (including Germany where I live), but it's an American invention so you probably have to live with it. Apple is doing it all the time as well - on a very childish level, one might add - but I usually don't hear you guys complaining about it when Apple does it.

Technologically, the Galaxy S3 is superior to the iPhone 5 in every single aspect. The iPhone's aluminum body is nice, I give it that. But that doesn't change the fact that it represents last year's technology, lacks vision and innovation, is part of a walled garden ecosystem and still has a screen that's simply too small. The iPhone 5 might be a nice improvement for current iPhone users, but it certainly won't attract any Android customers.
 

Sheza

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Aug 14, 2010
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Couldn't Samsung be done for essentially leaking the amount of RAM the iPhone 5 has? Since they are the supplier, and I didn't think news would travel fast enough for them to make a national advert just moments after the part numbers pointed to 1GB RAM.
 

Winni

macrumors 68040
Oct 15, 2008
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Germany.
If it is not the Samsung S3, it is the Nokia --- within 6 months there will be better phone to beat them all.

At this point, this is whishful thinking. Windows Mobile has an almost non-existant ecosystem around it. But even if it will gain momentum - Samsung also sells Windows Mobile Phones RIGHT NOW, not in six months...
 

AppleTools

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Dec 12, 2009
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I think that more than trying to hurt iPhone sales, Samsung is trying to recover a little bit form the huge hit they just had in court. Not only economically but on their own ego and reputation.

Trying to make people think their product is better than Apple's is just a way to lessen the fact that they looked awful in front of the whole industry.
 

matttye

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Mar 25, 2009
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In related news, SamEsong apologises and would like to issue the following corrections to their ad:

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- Samsung had panoramic shots before the iPhone.
- Samsung Dive is a find-my-iPhone equivalent.
- Smart alert vibrates when you pick up the phone and you have notifications, it is nothing like Siri's geofencing alerts.
- NFC is really useful, but you probably don't know what it's capable of and therefore dismiss it as something you don't need. ;)
- "No stupid functions that will accidentally mute" - it can be turned off. It never accidentally muted for me anyway.
- FaceTime HD - Google Talk has video chat.
- iCloud tabs - Google Chrome had this before Apple announced it.
- The ability to root if you want moar.
- "Apps that make it functional, not crap you're stuck with" - WHAT?!?! Stocks, and other junk has been unremovable on the iPhone from day one. You might not be able to uninstall the bloatware apps on the Galaxy S3, but you can hide them from the app drawer.
- GPS and Maps that absolutely rock - Google Maps, you mean?
- "Storage that won't get lost" - the micro SD card is slotted in under the battery which is covered by a back cover. How exactly can you lose that unless you're a complete idiot?

Educate yourself. :rolleyes: You're just making the iOS-side look completely ignorant.
 

ppdix

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Jul 6, 2001
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I think that more than trying to hurt iPhone sales, Samsung is trying to recover a little bit form the huge hit they just had in court. Not only economically but on their own ego and reputation.

Trying to make people think their product is better than Apple's is just a way to lessen the fact that they looked awful in front of the whole industry.
Then they should invest in a better advertising campaign. One that doesn't make them look jealous and desperate.
 

NStocks

macrumors 68000
Apr 3, 2008
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Perhaps one of the dumbest things about this, is that none of those "features" the S3 or any other smartphone for that would be there if it wasn't for iPhone.

No matter what anyone claims to say, the iPhone started everything in this industry and in this decade. Sure touch-screens where apparently a Microsoft thing a couple of decades ago, but nobody made them smart enough to even use. Only Apple decided to revolutionise the touch screen to work in a ordinary daily object.

What about the App Store,iTunes Store and Cloud services? Samsung selectively left them out as they have no competition against them.
 

ihuman:D

macrumors 6502a
Jul 11, 2012
925
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Ireland
A lot of butt-hurt fan kiddies today. Who gives a shlt about the add. It's just an add that forces people to see the facts. Nothing more, nothing less. So stop crying like Sammy just took your lunch money. Enjoy your new longPhone and don't worry about what any other person or Corporation thinks about your fruity little out dated phone. Seriously, just enjoy it. You feelin' me?

At least ours can fit in our pockets...
 

SilenceBe

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Oct 5, 2009
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Belgium
The ironic thing is that a lot of normal people don't understand half of the technical "mumbo jumbo" and they will NEED (in their POV) a genius to explain what every feature does... .

Samsung suffers the general sickness of the industry, thinking that it is all about features and not about UX. You can take a big group of people by waving features, but it is the worst (especially if you don't implement it right) to build up a long standing customer relationship.

It seems they don't have any geniuses working in their marketing department.

The inmates are also running the Asylum within Samsung. Yes, they do fine but that is mostly because they are having hundreds smartphones in the range of 100 to 700 euro's (without a contract)
 

SpyderBite

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Oct 4, 2011
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Regardless of the purpose of the ad.. Very few of the people who still read a print version of a newspaper care about most of those featured much less even know what they mean or how to use them. XD
 

AppleTools

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Dec 12, 2009
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They still out-sell Apple and everybody else in the smartphone market. And it doesn't take a genius to figure out why that is: They have GREAT products in all price segments.

Technologically, the Galaxy S3 is superior to the iPhone 5 in every single aspect. The iPhone's aluminum body is nice, I give it that. But that doesn't change the fact that it represents last year's technology, lacks vision and innovation, is part of a walled garden ecosystem and still has a screen that's simply too small. The iPhone 5 might be a nice improvement for current iPhone users, but it certainly won't attract any Android customers.

You can't measure quality by sales. McDonald's outsells all the best restaurants in the world, together! I rather drive my BMW than a Toyota Camry even though Toyota sells a million kazillion more cars than BMW.

A bigger screen and more RAM does not make a technology device better than another. It is the OS and the way they work together what makes the difference.

It is nice to have a walled ecosystem when it has a trillion Apps! It's like living in NY but without the crime!

Small screen? I bet you'd buy an iPad if you could make a phone call with it!!! :D

I though Samsung were trying to attract iPhone users with that add and not the opposite...

Samsung is indeed desperate to roll an ad like this.
 

SpyderBite

macrumors 65816
Oct 4, 2011
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Correct me if i'm wrong, but since the iPhone pictured is an Apple product, doesn't Samsung need permission to use it in whatever campaign...:confused:

Not anymore. The big Pepsi vs. Coke court war in the 80s made it legal to use a competitors product name & likeness in advertising as long as they are not lying directly about the product. Eg it would have been illegal for Samsung to state that the iPhone explodes in people's hands causing physical damage or that it dropped more calls by a specific percentage without mentioning it varies by carrier and coverage.
 

bushido

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Mar 26, 2008
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well, i think both phones r awesome and im glad customers have the choice to buy either.

first people faught over religion, now they fight over smartphones. pathetic, just get what suits ur needs.
 

macs4nw

macrumors 601
Maybe they should add a line:
Apple: Not found by a court to be infringing design patents.
Samsung: Found by a court to be infringing design patents.

Samsung needs to compare themselves to other android devices, not the iPhone, because most iPhone owners don't give a *****.

Looks like an angry 12-year-old made that ad. I love the end of the Galaxy list. They could've put anything and it would've sounded equally stupid.
Galaxy SIII:
Purple
Monkey
Bananas
THE NEXT BIG THING IS ALREADY HERE!

Free advertising for Apple :D

I think everything that needs to be said about this has pretty well already been said in the almost 700 above posts. It just occurred to me that SAMSUNG must be feeling pretty insecure/vulnerable about the iPhone to launch such an attack ad. At least one of their assertions is highly doubtful, ie their claim of "up to 790 hrs stand-by time"; that's almost 33 days. Not that it would sway most people one way or the other. I'm guessing, not THAT many people don't use their phone for a month, and then expect it to instantly spring to life.

Consumers of high-tech gadgetry are pretty sophisticated nowadays and the iPhone's performance will speak for itself. We don't have to rush out and dump our APPL stock just yet. :)

neilmacd summed it up perfectly: Free advertising for Apple.
 

Abazigal

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Jul 18, 2011
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Apple has just stopped in it's path of innovation. Their latest models have absolutely nothing "new" compared to older models. It's just about "more hardware". No new feature, no new radical change in the landscape. It's the same old plain, dull, boring UI conceived 6 years back.

In apple's defense, I would argue that the initial design was so refined that there is a limit to how well it can be further improved. If there was a problem, it was only because Apple virtually got it right the first time round!

IOS is like the kid who scored near full marks for his first test at the start of the year. Doesn't leave him a lot of room for improvements. Conversely, when gingerbread stank, it isn't hard to come out with improvements when everything is a problem.

Take the ipad. It is essentially a giant screen with an equally huge battery. What can you possibly do to improve on it, barring spec upgrades (which was basically what the ipad2 was). Improving its resolution seemed like the only step.

Same for the iphone. The unibody is the redesign. It admitably doesn't look like much, and were it not for this article explaining what it does, I probably wouldn't know any better. But it works by allowing for a thinner, lighter yet stronger phone. Better than some cheap plastic casing at any rate.

But isn't this the beauty of apple? So many improvements to its iphone are entirely under the hood. How hard would it be to simply add some purely aesthetic improvements that convey the illusion of a massively new redesign, but Apple steadfastly resisted that siren's call.
 

chaosbringer

macrumors member
Mar 3, 2009
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Lisboa, Portugal
Not anymore. The big Pepsi vs. Coke court war in the 80s made it legal to use a competitors product name & likeness in advertising as long as they are not lying directly about the product. Eg it would have been illegal for Samsung to state that the iPhone explodes in people's hands causing physical damage or that it dropped more calls by a specific percentage without mentioning it varies by carrier and coverage.

Didn't know that, thanks! ;)

Regardless, don't like these kind of ads, always tell only one side of the story with incomplete data and only tech specs, a product is much more then [incomplete] specs, regardless of who makes them. :(
 

Geckotek

macrumors G3
Jul 22, 2008
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I'm not buying an iPhone 5. I'll stick with my 3GS. Why? Well iPhone 5 is missing some features I want, like wireless charging. Will I buy an Andriod? Not on your life. I find the operating system clunky and hard to use and it would not easily work with my new Mac and my iPad. On the other hand, iOS is intuitive and all my devices easily work together.

I don't care that the galaxy has a bigger screen, or a micro SD slot, or slightly higher screen resolution. Make it an iOS device and I might be interested. Oh wait, you can't.

Roll on iPhone 6 (or an iPhone 5 if I drop and smash my 3GS in the next 2 years). Naff off Samsung.

Good luck, we've already heard why they think inductive charging is pointless. And while I kind of wanted it, they make a very good point. It adds almost no real value over just being neat.
 
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