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Jimrod

macrumors 65816
Jun 24, 2010
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Here's what I'd like to see: -

1. Widgets, or at least shortcuts to common settings like Bluetooth/WiFi.
2. Decent sharing API, not just sharing to Twitter and Facebook.
3. File system access.

iOS is just too basic without at least those basic features.

I think iOS is generally fine as it is but we should now have the option to remove ALL apps we don't want and add our own for any feature. They could also allow us to double up the dock (or place one in the extra row at the top) so we could pin more regularly used apps.
 

macnerd93

macrumors 6502a
Nov 28, 2009
712
192
United Kingdom
Here's what I'd like to see: -

1. Widgets, or at least shortcuts to common settings like Bluetooth/WiFi.
2. Decent sharing API, not just sharing to Twitter and Facebook.
3. File system access.

iOS is just too basic without at least those basic features.

1. iOS 6 has short cuts to bluetooth and Wifi. A lot more accessible the bluetooth now on the settings page.

2. What other social networking sites are there thats as popular as Facebook & Twitter? They are pretty much king & queen at the moment. Btw You can also share photos direct with flickr too.

3. What end user wants to deal with a file system on a phone? Other than hackers, well thats why we have Jailbreaking :p
 

cviddy

macrumors newbie
Sep 16, 2012
1
0
The obvious thought...

This ad is being run through the newspapers. Newspapers. Come on now, Samsung. Learn to advertise to the right demographics.
 

Gooberton

macrumors 65816
Jun 20, 2010
1,280
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cool what is the market share please explain the little pie that you look at and thinks those numbers are correct.... It's called marketing..... Just like every network says the same thing on all their adds the largest network in the nation bla bla bla.....
but the fact is everywhere you go you see people with iphone and a few with androids but when you ask do you like android they say it's ok ...... you ask the same question to an iphone customer different response... it's great...... also as a developer for multiple games and apps ask the same questions to app developer, which is much better to code for and they all say the same thing iphone is much better..... It just works

Most true thing ive ever read on mac rumors, where are all these people with androids essp gs3. i see multiple people with iphones every day, and ive literally never hear a bad word from an iphone owner, ever, but android owners..." yea its good, just buggy
 

Sensation

macrumors regular
Apr 4, 2012
150
0
I like it , good advert. The whole genius naming is a stupid idea because potential customers may think you need to be a genius to use an Apple product.
 

ihuman:D

macrumors 6502a
Jul 11, 2012
925
1
Ireland
Looks like an angry 12-year-old made that ad. I love the end of the Galaxy list. They could've put anything and it would've sounded equally stupid.

Galaxy SIII:

Purple
Monkey
Bananas

THE NEXT BIG THING IS ALREADY HERE!

Excuse me!? Lol. They're too busy fighting against the iPhone that they're letting their guard down, look at the Lumia 920, it has the hardware, design and software(?) to kick the S3 to the curb and look at the camera :eek: ! I'd say it could beat a standard 12mp with the technology it has.
 

Jimrod

macrumors 65816
Jun 24, 2010
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I like it , good advert. The whole genius naming is a stupid idea because potential customers may think you need to be a genius to use an Apple product.

I think the whole "Genius" thing wreaks of smugness on Apple's part and they should have changed it long ago. People should go into Apple stores and ask "I've got this small problem with my quantum mechanics theory, I've heard you're a genius, if I buy a phone can you help me with it?
 

sasasule

macrumors member
Feb 25, 2011
98
4
Netherlands
This ad only shows that Samsung is kind of desperate…And they try to drive attention of the buyers to S3…But from how I see it, it will just move buyers toward iPhone 5 instead.

This type of marketing that involve comparison is usually not so good idea.

But hey this is just my 2cent
 

AppleTools

macrumors member
Dec 12, 2009
76
12
The iPhone 5 is the equivalent of going from the 993 to the 996 911's in terms of design though, it's not as good and not many like it as much as the older form factor - it won't stop it being popular but it is disappointing. Notice how Porsche reverted the next gen 911 a lot closer to the older style?

The iPhone 5 would be the equivalent of the 991 911 which is the latest model if you 'd like to compare specifically to Porsche. But the point is that the basic design remains the same when it is a good design. You can go up and down with small things but not a whole makeover. Like the lights on the 911 models you mention (I didn't like them either) so they got back to the original idea.

Look at the aluminum back on the iPhone for example. The first one had one but the construction at that time wasn't completely developed. Now it has an aluminum unibody housing that actually does the job and it makes the phone sturdier and thiner. Do I like the glass back better? May be. I'll wait until I have the new iPhone in my hands to decide.

The point is, the iPhone design is pretty much the same because it is a great design. Simple and easy to use. Time doesn't make a design obsolete. Just a better design can make a design obsolete and so far everybody is copying the iPhone's design so until I see something better I think Apple should keep it like that and make the necessary improvements without changing the whole recipe.
 

Gooberton

macrumors 65816
Jun 20, 2010
1,280
672
Let's be honest, the only reason the iPhone even sells is because of iTunes. It doesn't sell for the use of syncing between it and a Mac computer since the vast majority of people in the US own PCs. It doesn't sell for the screen size or the specs because there are larger phones out there with better specs. The only reason it sells is because too many people think itunes is the only way to get multimedia to their phones and they are heavily invested in it. The iPod got everyone tied into iTunes and the iPhone just followed right along. If it weren't for people being so attached to iTunes, iPhone with the small screen and inferior specs wouldn't even be in the top 5 selling smartphones.
ahh, have you owned an iphone? first off your looking for the word ecosystem, and yes thats a big deal, it should not be downplayed but dont be foolish, iphone sells due to the OS and design of the phone, ONLY FANDROIDS AND KIDS WANT A HUGE SCREEN, who cares, its a phone in your pocket, if you want a huge scren go home and log on your computer!
 

QEin

macrumors newbie
Sep 8, 2012
9
0
I'm not buying an iPhone 5. I'll stick with my 3GS. Why? Well iPhone 5 is missing some features I want, like wireless charging. Will I buy an Andriod? Not on your life. I find the operating system clunky and hard to use and it would not easily work with my new Mac and my iPad. On the other hand, iOS is intuitive and all my devices easily work together.

I don't care that the galaxy has a bigger screen, or a micro SD slot, or slightly higher screen resolution. Make it an iOS device and I might be interested. Oh wait, you can't.

Roll on iPhone 6 (or an iPhone 5 if I drop and smash my 3GS in the next 2 years). Naff off Samsung.
 

matttye

macrumors 601
Mar 25, 2009
4,957
32
Lincoln, England
1. iOS 6 has short cuts to bluetooth and Wifi. A lot more accessible the bluetooth now Right on the settings page.

2. What other social networking sites are there thats as popular as Facebook & Twitter? They are pretty much king & queen at the moment. Btw You can also share photos direct with flickr too.

3. What end user wants to deal with a file system on a phone? Other than hackers, well thats why we have Jailbreaking :p

1. I have to enable/disable those settings multiple times a day. I'd rather just drag down the notification bar or have a widget right on the home screen. What about other settings people want to change too?

2. Not just to social networking sites. Here's a list of services my Android phone can share to: -

a. Group Cast (friends who are connected to the same WiFi network)
b. Dropbox
c. Picasa
d. Google+
e. S Memo (a memo/note taking app in my phone)
f. Bluetooth
g. Wi-Fi Direct (similar to sharing a file over Bluetooth, but uses WiFi)
h. Messaging
i. ChatON
j. Flipboard
k. Email
l. Facebook
m. Facebook Messenger
n. Twitter
o. BBC News
p. Skype
q. Evernote (a different note creating app)
r. Any other app you install that implements the sharing API.​

3. If you don't want to deal with it you wouldn't have to. I rarely use the file system on my Android phone. You can access files using the gallery, music, word processing apps etc as you normally would. The file system isn't forced on you, it's just there when you need it (like when you want to attach a file to an email).

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I think iOS is generally fine as it is but we should now have the option to remove ALL apps we don't want and add our own for any feature. They could also allow us to double up the dock (or place one in the extra row at the top) so we could pin more regularly used apps.

Agreed.
 

iKream

macrumors newbie
Sep 17, 2011
9
0
Wow, Samsung...

You know you're getting desperate when you're advertising that your phone can take screenshots...
 

AppleTools

macrumors member
Dec 12, 2009
76
12
I think the whole "Genius" thing wreaks of smugness on Apple's part and they should have changed it long ago. People should go into Apple stores and ask "I've got this small problem with my quantum mechanics theory, I've heard you're a genius, if I buy a phone can you help me with it?

hahahaha! I totally agree!

I often have to interrupt and correct them. Apple should change the name to Apple Fellows or Buddies... :D

But then, the average user tends to ask average questions so if no quantum mechanics are involved they are pretty much ok on their answers... :D
 

Sedrick

macrumors 68030
Nov 10, 2010
2,596
26
Man, lot of butt-hurt going on here. I think it's a pretty smart add and very effective. It's for the masses, remember? And it's the first real competition Apple has had. Get over it.
 

macchiato2009

macrumors 65816
Aug 14, 2009
1,258
1
I don't like to defend Apple because i just really don't care

but Samsung's move is really stupid

they seems desperate

their last tv commercials over the past months were anti-Apple and this ad is the ultimate troll


when you are a multinational company making great products, you just need to promote your own products the best way to make them appealing, not putting all your efforts and energy into criticizing the rival...

same goes for politics if you see what i mean
 

theanimaster

macrumors 6502
Oct 7, 2005
322
15
In related news, SamEsong apologises and would like to issue the following corrections to their ad:

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Jimrod

macrumors 65816
Jun 24, 2010
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The iPhone 5 would be the equivalent of the 991 911 which is the latest model if you 'd like to compare specifically to Porsche. But the point is that the basic design remains the same when it is a good design. You can go up and down with small things but not a whole makeover. Like the lights on the 911 models you mention (I didn't like them either) so they got back to the original idea.

(Just trimmed the quote to show what I'm referencing without taking up a page!)

I generally agree that the iPhone is a very smart, well constructed and evolved design. The latest version does indeed refine and improve many aspects of the previous one (I've ordered one after all!).

My, and many other's main criticism is the actual size/shape/ratio - it's just not nice or appealing. They should have made the phone wider as well as taller, it wouldn't have to be much, a few mm, but as it is the gains from the taller only screen are minimal in daily portrait orientation usage for a far uglier shape.

Apple can say they want you to be able reach it all with a thumb but that's just marketing - it's easier to put your thumb across than up and as I said it wouldn't have to be much wider in any case. There's a lot of blank space at the top and bottom that doesn't work with the elongated design and minimal space at the sides.

It'll be interesting to see if Apple stick with their "best ever design" for the iPhone 6.
 

daveathall

macrumors 68020
Aug 6, 2010
2,379
1,410
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After losing to Apple in court recently, one would have thought that Samsung's lawyers would have been consulted before such an ad was released, one would have thought that Samsung would err on the side of caution, one would have thought that all the facts on the ad will have been checked and double checked for accuracy, if they are in any way inaccurate one would have thought that Apple would take Samsung to court. We will see.
 

hot spare

macrumors 6502
Aug 22, 2011
340
66
Samsung is "right" to use such commercial. Ok, now I don't mean "right" as in law terms, but as in terms of marketing.

The success of Samsung can to some extent be attributed to the recognition they got as a iPhone alternative. When people ask what alternatives do they have for iPhone, Galaxy S-series phones come to mind. One thing to note here is that those youtube "barista" commercials and these iPhone comparison was meant only for US, not for rest of the world. You may want to look at the reason for this. US is the "hometurf" for Apple. Everywhere else in the world, Samsung is the clear market leader. Samsung is till the underdog in US as Apple has been able to get the attention of major part of the population. Samsung needs attention of the common people in US to increase their sales. This straight comparison is a method of sending a message to customers that there are devices apart from Apple which are just as good. And this is doing exactly what they expected. This is generating news, getting page hits and creating a buzz or a controversy.

In terms of objective, this ad managed to do what is expected - raise customer awareness about Samsung product. Corporates love this. Fanboy-ish fight in the forums is least of Samsung's concern...
 
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