See Samsung's Sunday newspaper ad about the iPhone 5. Whats your thoughts? (merged)

[Macist]

Those 'Apple users are sheep' ads were stupid - just kept Apple in peoples' minds.

The Apple lawsuit was, on balance, bad for Apple - made them look like they were denying consumers their choice.

See, people don't like negativity, especially when it comes to consumer tat no one really needs anyway.

Just sell your products. Let the other guys sell theirs.

 

[northernbaldy]

How childish

 

[matttye]

To people who commented on first page.. Feel free to edit your post with this image.

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No lag on my S3 with 1GB RAM. Didn't really lag with ICS, but definitely doesn't with Jelly Bean.

 

[MMOTotal]

Samsung must be scared of the iPhone 5 if they are going to this length to advertise the GS3.

Not everything has to be about specs either. It's all about the user experience.

 

[AppleTools]

Leaving all the seriousness of the Apple vs Samsung fight behind... Does anyone remember the Snail and Toasted Apple ads?

They were actually really direct and insulting on the competition... The difference is that they never said anything that was inaccurate. Intel tried to sue Apple at the time but they couldn't prove that Apple wasn't telling the truth!

The irony of course is that we are all typing over Intel processors today!!!

Well, At least I am since I'm at my Mac. The way things are I think we will have some "A#" branded chips in Macs pretty soon...

 

[Dangerous Theory]

I own an S3 and it is an iPhone competitor, but that long list of features Samsung tacked on without mention of iOS features is stupid and childish. They are really petty, useless gimmicks or rarely used. iOS has a much better music and videos app, iCloud, and more sensible settings menu just to name a few. Also the comparison of S voice to Siri is just comparing one really crap feature with a crap feature.

 

[AppleTools]

Those 'Apple users are sheep' ads were stupid - just kept Apple in peoples' minds.

The Apple lawsuit was, on balance, bad for Apple - made them look like they were denying consumers their choice.

See, people don't like negativity, especially when it comes to consumer tat no one really needs anyway.

Just sell your products. Let the other guys sell theirs.

"Those 'Apple users are sheep' ads were stupid - just kept Apple in peoples' minds"

AGREE.

"The Apple lawsuit was, on balance, bad for Apple - made them look like they were denying consumers their choice."

AGREE

"See, people don't like negativity, especially when it comes to consumer tat no one really needs anyway"

AGREE

"Just sell your products. Let the other guys sell theirs"

Can you tell me the secret formula for Pepsi or Coke? I'd love to sell that!

 

[matttye]

:d

S3 equivalents:

iMessage and FaceTime - Google Talk
Elastic bounce back (Samsung got sued for this, cheap shot ) - blue glow overscroll effect
Good scrolling physics - with Jelly Bean update, scrolling rivals iOS.
Siri - Google Now (with Jelly Bean update)

There's a lot of misinformation in this thread.

 

[TheRainKing]

I just imagine Samsung pulling this face as they created that ad.

It looks like they're in full rage mode at the moment.

 

[M87]

Not gonna lie, I was disappointed with the iPhone 5 announcement to the point that I went to the store to get a Samedung Plasticy SIII. And actually comparing it with my year-old 4S the Samedung seemed like a laughable downgrade. The funny thing is, I wasn't excited in the least about the iPhone 5 until that awful experience with the SIII.

 

[yegon]

Also the comparison of S voice to Siri is just comparing one really crap feature with a crap feature.

Lol nice

Experiencing Siri for the first time at the mo, bunged the ios6 GM on my iPad (I skipped the 4S). Wow, I won't be using it much!

 

[organerito]

Sales doesn't automatically make it a better phone.

If that was the case, the Ford Fiesta is the best car in the world.

And,
Mcdonald's would be the best food in the world.

 

[iphonefan74]

Samsung must be scared of the iPhone 5 if they are going to this length to advertise the GS3.

Apple must be scared of Samsung if they are going to court against them in nearly every relevant country to try and ban sales of their phones.

 

[Dogface]

Samsung make nice looking tvs. Maybe they should stick to that.

 

[hot spare]

Apple has just stopped in it's path of innovation. Their latest models have absolutely nothing "new" compared to older models. It's just about "more hardware". No new feature, no new radical change in the landscape. It's the same old plain, dull, boring UI conceived 6 years back.

To give a proof: What's the difference between iPad 2 and 3? Absolutely nothing apart from screen and better GPU to drive extra pixels. Fundamentally there is not a single new stuff in new iPad or the new iPhone.

That's why people are starting to believe that they have become stagnant. They are a reflection of MS of early 2000s.

This article truly says what's not happening at Apple now. It's not bad stuff, it that they are not exciting stuffs. They will sell in millions, but they are the most boring stuffs I could ever think of.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19557497

To use a car analogy, six years ago the iPhone was like a sexy new flagship model from BMW or Porsche. Today it's a Toyota Camry. Safe, reliable, boring. The car your mom drives. The car that's so popular that its maker doesn't dare mess with the formula.

Verge also had a similar article recently:

http://www.theverge.com/2012/9/13/3323082/iphone-5-predictable-73-degrees-sunny

Some of that old Microsoftian "don’t mess with success" myopia seems to have affected Apple, though. Success and innovation are not the same thing, and once a company stops driving for continuous innovation, it can be a difficult trait to rekindle should business ever slow

What is even funnier is that Apple is actually suing a Polish grocery store. You heard that right, they have dragged a grocery store to court just because it's name is a.pl (pl as in Polish domain). I never thought they would stoop that low.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2409669,00.asp

 

[matttye]

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Apple just implemented these features that were present in other devices first: -

- Panorama
- Taking a picture whilst recording video
- Maps with navigation
- Do Not Disturb ('call reject' in Android supports blacklist based call rejection with auto-text message response). Samsung has admittedly kinda copied Apple with 'Blocking Mode' in Jelly Bean which supports whitelist based call-acceptance. You can also set 'Blocking Mode' to only run from certain times
- Pull down notification bar
- Facebook and Twitter integration
- Larger screen
- LTE
- Thinner

Who copied who?

 

[canesalato]

Lol nice

Experiencing Siri for the first time at the mo, bunged the ios6 GM on my iPad (I skipped the 4S). Wow, I won't be using it much!

I don't know how it is in english, but in italian it just sucks

 

[iphonefan74]

Apple has just stopped in it's path of innovation. Their latest models have absolutely nothing "new" compared to older models. It's just about "more hardware". No new feature, no new radical change in the landscape. It's the same old plain, dull, boring UI conceived 6 years back.

To give a proof: What's the difference between iPad 2 and 3? Absolutely nothing apart from screen and better GPU to drive extra pixels. Fundamentally there is not a single new stuff in new iPad or the new iPhone.

That's why people are starting to believe that they have become stagnant. They are a reflection of MS of early 2000s.

This article truly says what's not happening at Apple now. It's not bad stuff, it that they are not exciting stuffs. They will sell in millions, but they are the most boring stuffs I could ever think of.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19557497



Verge also had a similar article recently:

http://www.theverge.com/2012/9/13/3323082/iphone-5-predictable-73-degrees-sunny



What is even funnier is that Apple is actually suing a Polish grocery store. You heard that right, they have dragged a grocery store to court just because it's name is a.pl (pl as in Polish domain). I never thought they would stoop that low.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2409669,00.asp

Funny and so true

 

[Morgenland]

This ad would be forbidden in Germany, (even we are a free country)

They are not forbidden at all, however, what they say must be 100% true and accurate....as a result, most companies never take the risk since falsehoods can cause more than good. However this sort of advertising is entirely legal in Europe.

Again. No place for disussions. Any court in Germany would definitively stop such ads.
Wikipedia: "Vergleichende Werbung bedeutet, dass in einer Werbung die Leistung eines oder mehrerer Wettbewerber mit dem eigenen Angebot verglichen wird. In Deutschland ist die vergleichende Werbung seit dem 14. Juli 2000 aufgrund einer EG-Richtlinie unter bestimmten Vorgaben erlaubt und im Gesetz gegen den unlauteren Wettbewerb (UWG) geregelt. Beispielsweise müssen die getroffenen Aussagen auch objektiv nachprüfbar sein und der Wahrheit entsprechen. Außerdem darf (vergleichende) Werbung nicht irreführend sein und ******Wettbewerber nicht verunglimpfen***** oder herabsetzen. Vorher war vergleichende Werbung in Deutschland mit Unkenntlichmachung des Konkurrenzproduktes erlaubt" [http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vergleichende_Werbung]

thats the fact.....

 

[macnerd93]

All I have to say is...


Welcome,
Samsung.
Seriously.



Apple should have re-done one of their old classics. when Samsung started copying the iPhone xD

 

[AppleTools]

To use a car analogy, six years ago the iPhone was like a sexy new flagship model from BMW or Porsche. Today it's a Toyota Camry. Safe, reliable, boring. The car your mom drives. The car that's so popular that its maker doesn't dare mess with the formula.

It is funny that you mention cars, specially Porsche because the 911 for example, was introduced in 1963 and the design has been kept the same all these years until today. Just got improved. Why? Because it is a great design. And if you tell me a 1963 911 is a dull car to drive you have never driven one...

The design of the iPhone changes in what it needs to be changed. If you have a great design you might be able to improve it but the changes will not be that noticeable. If you change your designs very often that clearly means there was something wrong with them...

 

[Jimrod]

It's a fair ad as many companies would make.

I've got my iPhone 5 on pre-order but I can see for the first time that no-one else will be playing catch-up to it. Every other iPhone has been ahead of the pack and left them clamouring to get one up on it, now they don't need to as they're already ahead. If the Android system can keep being refined the phone market is going to be far more competitive from now on.

As with most I'm not that impressed with the 5, it's kinda "meh" but we're into the eco system now so that's why it will be so popular (and why I've ordered one). I just wish Jony Ive hadn't abandoned his principals with the horrible size ratio - it's not golden that's for sure and there's no way he truly thinks that's the best work they've ever done.

 

[subsonix]

Apple has just stopped in it's path of innovation. Their latest models have absolutely nothing "new" compared to older models. It's just about "more hardware". No new feature, no new radical change in the landscape. It's the same old plain, dull, boring UI conceived 6 years back.

So you would prefer superficial design changes for it's own sake over substantial internal changes? Do they change the looks of Macs between every other model? Adding features in order to fill bullet point lists, without real use ends up being gimmicks.

 

[Jimrod]

It is funny that you mention cars, specially Porsche because the 911 for example, was introduced in 1963 and the design has been kept the same all these years until today. Just got improved. Why? Because it is a great design. And if you tell me a 1963 911 is a dull car to drive you have never driven one...

The design of the iPhone changes in what it needs to be changed. If you have a great design you might be able to improve it but the changes will not be that noticeable. If you change your designs very often that clearly means there was something wrong with them...

The iPhone 5 is the equivalent of going from the 993 to the 996 911's in terms of design though, it's not as good and not many like it as much as the older form factor - it won't stop it being popular but it is disappointing. Notice how Porsche reverted the next gen 911 a lot closer to the older style?

 

[matttye]

So you would prefer superficial design changes for it's own sake over substantial internal changes? Do they change the looks of Macs between every other model? Adding features in order to fill bullet point lists, without real use ends up being gimmicks.

Here's what I'd like to see: -

1. Widgets, or at least shortcuts to common settings like Bluetooth/WiFi.
2. Decent sharing API, not just sharing to Twitter and Facebook.
3. File system access.

iOS is just too basic without at least those basic features.