See Samsung's Sunday newspaper ad about the iPhone 5. Whats your thoughts? (merged)

[puke]

I like how Android-boys attack Apple because they sue... Ofcourse they do? If someone steal something that's patented, you all would sue.

Wake up goddamnit! The ones that wants an iPhone gets one. The ones that wants an Android-phone gets one of those... As easy as that.

I'm personally getting the iPhone 5, but that's simply because it has everything i would need. I dont have to hax around with android for 2 decades to get it to work like I want it to, aswell as having the "whole experience". Connecting to Apple TV, iCloud, seamlessly integrated and I only have to enter my username/password and everything is done. It's not laggy. iOS is made for 1 phone. Android is made for 134567865432 phones, and ofcourse it's laggy like hell, it's not optimized.

It's up to the user.

 

[AppleTools]

I think this Samsung hate is hilarious. Samsung bad...unless you are buying a rMBP (gotta get the Samsung display) or a MBA (gotta get a Samsung SSD and display). All companies market their products - I pick the one that works for my needs by researching and not from anyone's biased marketing...apple or Samsung or whoever.

Nobody hates Samsung, that's silly... we (I might be speaking for some of us) just think the ad is not very smart. They are just trying too hard...

And yep, we all know Apple buys a lot of Samsung's parts just like they do from Seagate, WD, Hynix, Sony, LG and so many others... Those parts work better on Apple products than they do on theirs... (and I am not referring only to Samsung's)

And Samsung does actually have great products. I have a very cool SamSung fridge which is great and is almost as big as the Galaxy SIII

 

[yegon]

I would imagine all those 3GS owners who started a 2 year contract last week might not agree when IOS 6 is released?

Hardly an argument, you're talking about an old old phone there.

 

[chatfan]

Can we just index all these arguments and just refer to them as numbers?
I mean this argument has been done and dusted about 20.000.000 times now. It might be easier to just do it like a chess game:

My move is insult:
C42-B2

Are you saying that phones with touch screens must be copies? Or, that it's the touch screen it self is the only thing defining a touch screen phone? That argument is a bit too simple to buy.

 

[Geckotek]

Nobody hates Samsung, that's silly... we (I might be speaking for some of us) just think the ad is not very smart. They are just trying too hard...

Nah, some people hate Samsung just as much as some people hate Apple. I don't hate either. I hate Sears though, they tried to screw me.

 

[canesalato]

I am curious how accurate or misleading it is when Samsung claims to have substantially longer standby time (790 vs. 225 hours) and longer talk time (11.4 vs. 8 hours) than Apple. I am suspicious of this and would like to see some real world numbers. It has seemed to me that Android phones, especially using 4G, just don't get good battery life at all. Does anyone have any thoughts on this? I've looked for articles that would explain these numbers and their reliability in the real world, but have had no luck.

Anandtech tells a different story (look for the galaxy siii review)

 

[ani4ani]

Those kind of competitive ads are forbidden by law in most european countries.
We know, why: Comparing products is just comparing apples with bananas. Maybe its just a missing competition-law in the US?!

They are not forbidden at all, however, what they say must be 100% true and accurate....as a result, most companies never take the risk since falsehoods can cause more than good. However this sort of advertising is entirely legal in Europe.

 

[iphonefan74]

The one big con with devices running Android is that their are many, many versions of Android, and not all versions will be able to run on your device because your device will have to have the particular hardware for it to run. This is not a problem for Apple devices though, Universally they all run the same hardware, and software for that matter!

Really? So an iPhone 3G can run iOS6? That would be a neat trick. Why was Siri not available for the 4 but only the 4s? Why is turn by turn navigation only available for the 4s and up? Why is Facetime over 3G only available for the 4 and up? Oh fragmentation irony. Pot meet kettle.

 

[matttye]

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Galaxy S3 has:

- 720p front facing camera
- Panorama
- FaceTime (Google Talk supports video chat and comes installed by default on Android ICS and later )
- iMessage competitor (again being Google Talk)
- PassWallet. Actually supports the exact same file format as PassBook and therefore the exact same passes. I'm surprised that Apple hasn't sued the developers yet actually.
- Maps. Doesn't have flyover but Google Maps has features that are actually useful such as walking directions, transit directions, bus/train/etc timetables, street view and you can walk around buildings in first person mode.

If you're going to do it, at least try and sell features that are unique to the iPhone, of which there are plenty.

 

[Stinger123]

Those kind of competitive ads are forbidden by law in most european countries.
We know, why: Comparing products is just comparing apples with bananas. Maybe its just a missing competition-law in the US?!

To my knowledge, it's fully legal to do ads like this in most free countries.
As long as you only tell facts and no slanter you can mention your competition by name.

The reason why so few companies does, is that there is a very fine line not to cross. And even one wrong word can turn the ad into slanter.

 

[ani4ani]

Hardly an argument, you're talking about an old old phone there.

Old tech, but a current model! It's a current model that can be purchased today, brand new and of last week directly from Apple?

 

[Geckotek]

Anandtech tells a different story (look for the galaxy siii review)

Doesn't seem all that great.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6022/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-review-att-and-tmobile-usa-variants/3

 

[subsonix]

This is a bit old but puts things into perspective.

 

[cRuNcHiE]

This. There's like over 200+ versions of Android. It's why its software is flaw because its not suitable for all the different type of hardware (Samsung, HTC, Asus,etc).
Think about the iPhone 3GS it will support iOS 6. A phone thats about 3 years old. Does any of Android phones that are 3 years old (Samsung, HTC,...) support the latest version of Jelly Bean?

The htc hd2 can run jelly bean and its from 2009. Mind you it can also run Linux and various other OS's too!

Apple is not perfect , they may still update the 3GS but not without blocking it from having all the features for sometimes no reason (turn by turn nav)

 

[Collected]

I swear since the iPhone 5 launch i've seen more Android phone users talking about it than I have iPhone users.

 

[Cankoda]

What about Microsoft in an Apple ad?

They never mentioned Microsoft, they mentioned the PC market in general, but no companies were named in those ads, as they just compared certain features at the time

 

[MrXiro]

I love when companies get into slap fights... Apple should post something like "Best in the world AND in the Galaxy; iPhone 5".

Followed by a "suck it Korea" but that might be going too far.

 

[AppleTools]

Originally Posted by alexxxhp
Love this version of the add.. Don't forget to mention the os called ice cream sandwich samsung left it out because people might think it's dairy queen add.

Does it matter what its called? No. It could be called '3 month old soggy goat milk' it still doesnt change the function of the product.

Just like the ridiculous 'retina' marketing term by apple.

At least Retina has relevancy to the eye and sight which is totally related to the feature in question... a high resolution LCD.

I don't see where an Ice Cream Sandwich (even though they are delicious) fits into a telephone OS...

The point is, you should have chosen the cat names on OS X if you wanted to actually make a point over that...

 

[matttye]

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I wonder if its too late to get my version to the WSJ

Galaxy S3 has:

- Take pictures whilst recording video since launch.
- Jelly Bean update has 'Blocking Mode' (Do Not Disturb) equivalent.
- Facebook and Twitter integration.
- PassWallet (PassBook equivalent).
- Google Talk (supports video chat over WiFi and cellular like FaceTime)
- Chrome supports tab syncing (default browser doesn't)

You guys aren't getting it, you're supposed to be listing features that are unique to the iPhone, or comparing features that the iPhone does better.

 

[iphonefan74]

Samsung copied loads of things like style of the phone and icons the way the software behaves even down to the charging adapter and product box.

I guess you have never used an Android phone because it behaves nothing like an iPhone. It's a completely different OS and how the blue hell does an Apple 30 pin charger look anything like the USB chargers Samsung uses? LOL How about Apple blatantly stealing Androids notification bar just last year? Pot meet kettle

 

[Icaras]

Nobody hates Samsung, that's silly...

Speak for yourself. I certainly hate Samsung.

 

[yegon]

Old tech, but a current model! It's a current model that can be purchased today, brand new and of last week directly from Apple?

Whilst true, it's a null argument IMO. iPhones get a minimum of two years of decent upgrades. A 3GS, whilst a painful experience for nerds like me and probably you, is still a passably decent phone that is reasonably comparable to modern phones and can probably run (not necessarily that well) lots of apps on the App Store.

Please show me an Android phone from 2009 that can do the same! (Don't factor in via custom roms, we're talking Joe Schmoe here).

I must stress, I'm largely neutral, own a Galaxy Note but would generally prefer iOS. However, I honestly feel in this area, regular upgrades, there is zero argument to be had, iPhones trounce android phones.

 

[canesalato]

They never mentioned Microsoft, they mentioned the PC market in general, but no companies were named in those ads, as they just compared certain features at the time

Even more. They mentioned microsoft, but only on a positive side. They promoted microsoft office, saying that the mac is able to run it. This is called being classy, which is not so easy to copy

 

[Nimrad]

Yeah, when you have only 100,000 devices in stock, you would be sold out in couple of hours; but if you'd make 1,000,000 devices on the first day (I'm just throwing the numbers as an example), it would take you longer to be sold out. Try to read about supply and demand and techniques in marketing, every company is doing it - some are more than others.

If you read a bit more about it you would've known it's not as simple as a marketing technique. Yes, there are some marketing principles, but companies selling out new products actually sell less. The bigger question is being early vs having just enough units to justify releasing. If it was all about selling out they would've released it simultaneously all over the world selling out in minutes and not delivering enough units for months. Also, they can not lose too much momentum after announcing the phone.

 

[Cankoda]

Really? So an iPhone 3G can run iOS6? That would be a neat trick. Why was Siri not available for the 4 but only the 4s? Why is turn by turn navigation only available for the 4s and up? Why is Facetime over 3G only available for the 4 and up? Oh fragmentation irony. Pot meet kettle.

For starters do you see a front camera ont the 3GS 0.o