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nim81

macrumors member
Feb 16, 2010
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Yawn. Not sure why that enormous screen became a "feature". Quite personally I'd have preferred the iPhone to keep the same size screen as the 4S, never mind that monstrosity on the Samsung.

And stupid to compare the resolutions like that since the Samsung will need a bigger resolution to look the same on its massive screen.

The Galaxy is a good phone, but these wars of specs are retarded and its only geeks that care about them - normal people only care about if it works the way they want to.
 

nba1341

macrumors regular
Dec 27, 2007
173
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mib1800 said:
That Samsung list is not long enough.

IP5 missing ALL of following:

HARDWARE
- bigger 4.8in + AMOLED screen
- storage upto 96GB (32Gb + 64Gb external)
- removable battery
- better 2MP front camera + more functional camera app
- USB To Go (direct connect to portable drive, keyboard, game controller, usb-hub etc)
- unrestricted Bluetooth
- Wifi-Direct
- DLNA / Allshare / AllCast
- NFC - direct share/beam, automate phone tasks with TecTiles/tags, NFC payment
- HDMI out (video and UI)
- standard USB-port (no need for proprietary and expensive adapters/cables)

PHONE
- One touch dial/sms (via desktop shortcuts) + Speed dial with phone keypad
- Picture contact/log (incl. grid view) and unlimited call log
- contact sync/integration with fb,tw,skype,g+ etc
- 3G-standard video call
- Motion: Flip to silent, Pick-to-call, Touch for missed call/sms, Tilt to zoom, double-tap to scroll
- multi-purpose LED indicator
- Smart Stay (keep screen on via face detection)
- Built-in call-blocker (to keep away unwanted calls)
- Unrestricted internal storage access via USB (or other connectivity methods)
- File-system
- Full email attachment support

UI
- various desktop launcher UI to cater to any taste
- Widgets (one-glance for essential info)
- Live Wallpaper (aesthetic)
- Lock Screen direct launch
- Quick Toggles in Notification
- Full Multi-Tasking
- Back button for easier back navigation (+ reduces screen space wastage)
- Replaceable keyboard (swype/T9/variants etc)
- Non-centralized settings
- Various media format support (avi, divx, mkv etc) - no need for tedious itunes conversion
- Popup-Play
- Web-broswer text reflow (+Flash support)
- UI Font Type/Size selection

APPS (not possible for IOS due to limitations/restrictions)
- Side-loading of apps + browser-based app installation
- Better Google-based services/apps
- Free 50GB drop-box storage
- Plug-and-Play (seamlessly replace built-in apps with 3rd party)
- Intents (manually choose which installed app to launch based on content-type)
- Automation-type apps e.g.
o automaticly switch phone settings (vol, bt, wifi etc) based on events/states/gps/nfc
o phone call recording
o NFC tasks (tectiles) - e.g. tap to call/sms directly (or change phone settings)
o schedule auto send sms/email based on events (birthday, meeting reminders etc)
o auto check-in, auto upload photos/info
o etc etc
LMFAO - the fact that you took all this time trying to compile this list shows exactly what Samsung Galaxy S3 owners are missing... A life!

That is a red herring. You did not address the previous quoted post at all you just issued a personal attack instead.
 

nedman

macrumors newbie
Sep 28, 2011
28
0
Sorry but this sums up this advert for me,

Apple: A totally different "plug"
Samsung: Standard mini usb "plug"

And here is me thinking it was a "connector"

Come on you bunch of samsung marketing clowns. If your going to insult your biggest competitor at least try and not sound like a bunch of angry 5 year olds!
 

flameproof

macrumors 6502a
Jan 14, 2011
615
18
Quad Core? - seems ip5 only have 2 cores (likely an updated exynos dual core used in S2/Note)

IMHO the number of cores are totally irrelevant. It says nothing about how hardware and software are working together. Same for RAM.

Can only say that the iPhone 4 is getting sluggish when i.e. the camera is open in the background.
 

KPOM

macrumors P6
Oct 23, 2010
18,311
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Too bad you wouldnt mention that only applies in USA where Apple got awarded patents they never should have. Anywhere else in the world, apples been laughed out of court.

They have won lawsuits in Germany and the Netherlands as well. Where they have lost is in countries like the UK where trespassing isn't even a crime and squatter's rights are sacrosanct (i.e. there is less overall protection for property rights).

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They disserviced (I know not a real word) themselves. The jury has already proven they had no idea what they were doing. Judge found they ignored crucial evidence and made hasty decisions which then led to a decrease in the fine. They have made Samsung's appeal infinitely easier by opening their mouths post trial.

The judge has made no such determinations and hasn't even heard Samsung's requests to review the ruling. The judge allowed Samsung to review the verdict form for consistency, and they found two minor items that reduced the $1.05 billion by a whopping $200,000. Most, if not all of this will be upheld on appeal. None of what came out after the trial has any bearing on the validity of the verdict. It isn't as if they came out with evidence of tampering.

But why let facts get in the way of a story?
 

Elit3

macrumors regular
Sep 17, 2012
177
0
Awesome Facts, Could you elaborate?

Done being angry about your phone yet?
Honestly not paying attention to all your replies so now I'm lost. Why are you on this site again? Reading all the awesome facts of the new iPhone?!
What awesome facts? I like the design (exterior look), the black looks MUCH better than the SGS3. But the specs don't appeal. I am going to go through a few 'new awesome features' of the iPhone 5 and give my opinion:
LTE: PFFFFT, Android has had that for a WHILE.
Panorama Mode: Again Android has had that for a few years.
Apple Maps: Will not compare to Google Maps. It just can't, google have been at it for a while. Google Maps you can now download, to use offline. :O
Getting rid of YouTube App: I hated that app when I had my iOS devices (but still bad)
EarPods: Amazing, good cheap option.
Quad-Core A6: Um....Nice it's quad-core, again android has had that since the One X, oh and isn't it manufactured by Samsung, the creators of the SGS3, hahahhaha
Thinnest Smartphone ever: It's funny no one brings that up, IT'S A LIE! The thinnest smartphone ever is the 'ZTE Athena'. Sorry, but that's called false advertising.
New Plug: I have a different opinion on this. FINALLY! The got a smaller plug it was annoying :p
Screen Size: PLEASE, you can get from 3.5" to 5.5" with android.
Screen Resolution: 1136 x 640? WHAT why didn't they go all the way to HD? o_O
Siri: Is DEFINITELY better than S-Voice. BUT Google Voice Search is much better. Siri is that $2 toy that you always wanted and then throw away 2 days after you get it. S-Voice is that crap toy no one ever wants. And Google Voice Search is a reliable, fast, fun toy, that you will always use.
1 GB Ram: Okay this is normal, actually good. The International version (the better sgs3 version) has this (the Korean version had 2GB and a quad-core).
Lack of NFC: Just disappointing Apple.
Nano Sim: AWESOME, but a pain to switch.
STILL NOT OPEN SOURCE: This is for geeks basically, but come on, it would make much better apps.
I believe I have covered it.
 

szw-mapple fan

macrumors 68040
Jul 28, 2012
3,625
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They are just acting out of spite.
The screen size comparison is just ridiculous. iPhone has definitely got a screen size just right for one handed use.
 

Prallethrin

macrumors regular
Jun 8, 2011
104
0
We should just ignore them. You know the old saying, "Don't feed the trolls.".

Apple is in the limelight now, Samsung is desperate for some of it. Don't give them what they want.
 

Elit3

macrumors regular
Sep 17, 2012
177
0
We should just ignore them. You know the old saying, "Don't feed the trolls.".

Apple is in the limelight now, Samsung is desperate for some of it. Don't give them what they want.

o_O You do realise that 48% of phones sold are now Samsung *facepalm*

Oh and Putting an iPhone is there advert is COMPLETELY legal, actually it's stupid. Samsung are being arrogant and in doing so giving Apple free Advertising.
 

KnightWRX

macrumors Pentium
Jan 28, 2009
15,046
4
Quebec, Canada
They have won lawsuits in Germany and the Netherlands as well.

They lost big in the Netherlands. You'd have to apply a pretty big spin job to say they "won" (a single patent held up, and Samsung issued a patch and got the injunction lifted before it even began). They also lost many patents in the Netherlands, not to mention all their design claims.

There has been no decision as far as I know in Germany yet. Only a preliminary injunction.

So please.
 

Rogifan

macrumors Penryn
Nov 14, 2011
24,735
32,200
Cell Phones & Wireless Service: Apple’s Debut Changes the Game

Starting this year, the ACSI has expanded its coverage of the cell phone industry, adding another four companies to the roster of cell phone firms. Customer satisfaction with the cell phone industry (part of the manufacturing/durable goods sector) slips 1.3% to 74, while wireless service drops 1.4% to 70.

For many users, the advent of smartphone technology has dramatically changed what they look for in a cell phone device. Two smartphones makers, Apple and Research in Motion (RIM), enter the ACSI with very different results. At 83, Apple (iPhone) leads the field by a long shot, while RIM (Blackberry) lags behind as the least satisfying at 69.

“Companies with weak customer satisfaction often have weak stock performance,” notes Fornell. “RIM’s sales are slumping amid a bevy of problems, from hardware and software issues to server lapses that have caused email and messaging outages. Over the past year, share price for RIM has virtually collapsed.”

At 83, Apple’s iPhone is a game changer when it comes to customer satisfaction. No other cell phone company has ever broken into the 80s. Apple’s nearest competitors this year are three companies tied at 75: Nokia (+3%) and ACSI newcomers LG and HTC.

Motorola declines 5% to 73 and ties the aggregate of smaller manufacturers (-1%). This may be unwelcome news for Google as it hopes to make the most of its Motorola acquisition and widen the user base for its Android operating system. Samsung, another company that relies heavily on Android, backtracks 4% to a below-average score of 71.

On the service side, the aggregation of smaller carriers (such as TracFone and U.S. Cellular) maintains a strong lead at 76, despite a small downturn (-1%). All companies show modest ACSI declines except for AT&T Mobility. Last year, customer satisfaction for AT&T and T-Mobile tumbled amid merger talks. This year, AT&T recoups its loss (+5%), but only to tie T-Mobile (-1%) at 69. On the other hand, AT&T is now close to rival Verizon (-3% to 70), whose score has dwindled over three years. At 71, Sprint Nextel nominally grabs first place among the big carriers and holds nearly steady (-1%) following three years of swift ACSI progress (up from 56 in 2008).


iPhone tops J.D. Power's satisfaction list for the 7th time

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seaneji

macrumors newbie
Sep 17, 2012
2
0
Norway
Samsung is Good

IMO
1. Samsung is good at manufacturing in bulk. Just show them how to make it one unit, they will make billions of units. You don't need much intelligence to do that. Thats why Apple outsourcing their components to Samsung.
2. But Samsung wants to be like Apple, but they cannot. If Samsung is good enough people will accept it. Apple came to telephone market in 2007 only. But samsung was in the market well before. Why they weren't famous in the telephone industry before 2007 like NOKIA? Suddenly Samsung engineers became genius after 2007 :)
3. Putting more spec is waste of resource, if you don't get the performance according to that. If SGS3 cannot give double speed and smooth than iPhone 4S (some people claims SGS3 is a beast ), there is no point in spec argument. Quality is more important than quantity. All big things are not the best!
4. If you support Android because it is open source, read what google is doing, http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-19601341
Google is as evil as both MS and Apple.
 

Amazing Iceman

macrumors 603
Nov 8, 2008
5,838
4,650
Florida, U.S.A.
They need to add under the ram portion "2gb of ram but lags like hell anyway"

That's the main reason I am switching from the S3 to the iPhone5.

That lag issue could be solved easily. We just need to hope the fellows at XDA feel like porting iOS to the S3. :D

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Sorry but this sums up this advert for me,

Apple: A totally different "plug"
Samsung: Standard mini usb "plug"

And here is me thinking it was a "connector"

Come on you bunch of samsung marketing clowns. If your going to insult your biggest competitor at least try and not sound like a bunch of angry 5 year olds!

That's because most of their clients act like a bunch of angry 5 year olds!
 

KPOM

macrumors P6
Oct 23, 2010
18,311
8,324
They lost big in the Netherlands. You'd have to apply a pretty big spin job to say they "won" (a single patent held up, and Samsung issued a patch and got the injunction lifted before it even began). They also lost many patents in the Netherlands, not to mention all their design claims.

There has been no decision as far as I know in Germany yet. Only a preliminary injunction.

So please.

Courts generally won't issue a preliminary injunction unless they think the broader case is probable of holding up.
 

alfistas

macrumors regular
Jun 28, 2012
191
0
Helios Prime
What awesome facts? I like the design (exterior look), the black looks MUCH better than the SGS3. But the specs don't appeal. I am going to go through a few 'new awesome features' of the iPhone 5 and give my opinion:
LTE: PFFFFT, Android has had that for a WHILE.
Panorama Mode: Again Android has had that for a few years.
Apple Maps: Will not compare to Google Maps. It just can't, google have been at it for a while. Google Maps you can now download, to use offline. :O
Getting rid of YouTube App: I hated that app when I had my iOS devices (but still bad)
EarPods: Amazing, good cheap option.
Quad-Core A6: Um....Nice it's quad-core, again android has had that since the One X, oh and isn't it manufactured by Samsung, the creators of the SGS3, hahahhaha
Thinnest Smartphone ever: It's funny no one brings that up, IT'S A LIE! The thinnest smartphone ever is the 'ZTE Athena'. Sorry, but that's called false advertising.
New Plug: I have a different opinion on this. FINALLY! The got a smaller plug it was annoying :p
Screen Size: PLEASE, you can get from 3.5" to 5.5" with android.
Screen Resolution: 1136 x 640? WHAT why didn't they go all the way to HD? o_O
Siri: Is DEFINITELY better than S-Voice. BUT Google Voice Search is much better. Siri is that $2 toy that you always wanted and then throw away 2 days after you get it. S-Voice is that crap toy no one ever wants. And Google Voice Search is a reliable, fast, fun toy, that you will always use.
1 GB Ram: Okay this is normal, actually good. The International version (the better sgs3 version) has this (the Korean version had 2GB and a quad-core).
Lack of NFC: Just disappointing Apple.
Nano Sim: AWESOME, but a pain to switch.
STILL NOT OPEN SOURCE: This is for geeks basically, but come on, it would make much better apps.
I believe I have covered it.

Ehm,you describe all the "benefits" of android versus ios. What is your argument exactly? That you won't buy an ios device because you're a brainwashed android fanboy?? that makes no sense. Why did you even bother to come to this forum?

A lot of you fandroids don't get it. Android is a lost cause because there are no good apps for it. And that is YOUR FAULT! You like talking up your supposedly favorite mobile os but you don't prove it with your wallets!! No money No developers!!
 

69650

Suspended
Mar 23, 2006
3,367
1,876
England
Whether or not Samsung makes excellent products is what's in dispute. What is in dispute is did they make them on their own, or did they get the benefit of Apple's R&D without having to pay for it?

Hint: A jury found the latter (in spades - look up the word "willful" sometime) and that's the core issue.

A jury in the US found they did. But other courts around the world have found the opposite. It's not as black and white as you suggest. And a number of commentators have suggested the US verdict will go to appeal where it might be overturned. There is a long way to go in this patent battle. In the end I don't think anyone will win or lose in a clear cut manner. It will probably all end in one giant cross-licensing deal.

I think there is a big difference between copying someone's work and taking inspiration from it. Steve Jobs himself that "Good artists copy, great artists steal, and we intend to be great artists". Makes you think.
 

kdarling

macrumors P6
dgree03 said:
Please dont think for a second iOS is easier to use than Android.. they both have learning curves to a complete new user.

Absolutely. Users have to be shown the basics on any system. Even pinch-to-zoom isn't "intuitive" unless you've been told about it. As for all the "secret" modes mobile OSes have, don't get me started. E.g. the iOS wiggling icons mode. Lots of people never read instructions :)

Maybe you should have checked with these guys first.
(videos of babies and iPhones snipped)

Yep, kids can learn on anything.

As a touch developer, my house is full of touch devices. Before the iPhone was even a dream at Apple, my youngest daughter was using touchscreen Windows XP laptops and Windows CE handhelds. She exclusively used touch from one year old to about five, before switching to a kid-sized mouse.

Just as with anyone, she did have to be shown a few main gestures, especially what Back meant on a browser. Afterwards, using her own experimentation, she not only learned tons of menus and subactions, but even how to drag and drop items... on a resistive screen, no less. Heck, I can barely do that. Even better, the built-in stylus handwriting recognition on one handheld allowed her to learn to write the alphabet early on. (If she didn't write a letter well enough, it wouldn't recognize it.)

touchkid.jpg

(above: her second birthday, in 2004, using Flash based games on a touchscreen Panasonic Toughbook.)

Having grown up with multiple systems, she is totally at home using touch on Windows, OSX, iOS, and Android. Interestingly, while she prefers a Macbook now for social interaction, she prefers Android on tabets and phones because of the Back button to retrace her steps.
 
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