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lazard

macrumors 68000
Jul 23, 2012
1,608
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Clearly, Samsung is worried about iPhone 5.

I don't care what phone people use, if it works for them? Great.

I do find it irritating when Android lovers pull the "people who buy iPhones buy them because they're trendy" and "they aren't tech-savvy enough to use Android" crap.

Puh-leeze.

I've been iPhone all the way since June 2007, updated every year, and ran mine jailbroken back when JB wasn't the least complex task to perform.

While there are tech savvy people who use the iPhone, the majority are clueless.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdIWKytq_q4
 

bunnicula

macrumors 68040
Jul 23, 2008
3,816
817
While there are tech savvy people who use the iPhone, the majority are clueless.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdIWKytq_q4

But, I'd argue that it didn't start out that way.

And that people cannot dismiss the folks who know their way around a computer simply because the iPhone became so popular amongst those who have no idea, because really?

It says something about this phone... it appeals to a wide market.

That is a GOOD thing.
 

jstrahan73

macrumors regular
Jun 17, 2009
110
3
Louisiana
checking email on my GS3 it has no clue what a tracking number. I touch on the number to track my iPhone5 and it sends me to phone instead of internet. how dumb
 

JGIGS

macrumors 68000
Jan 1, 2008
1,825
2,086
CANADA!
checking email on my GS3 it has no clue what a tracking number. I touch on the number to track my iPhone5 and it sends me to phone instead of internet. how dumb

My iphone and mac seem to assume the tracking number is US postal when its a Canada post number so I still have to copy and paste anyway. It isn't perfect either.
 

ReallyBigFeet

macrumors 68030
Apr 15, 2010
2,956
133
While there are tech savvy people who use the iPhone, the majority are clueless.

Important point.

I think the fan base might want to reconsider categorizing smartphone users as "clueless."

The reality is that most people use their phones for talking, texting and maybe the occasional web lookups via browser. So "clueless" is relative to context.

If smartphones are to be evaluated as laptop replacements...then perhaps the measurement for "best smartphone" would change. But until that's the use of smartphones by the masses....doesn't matter.
 

MACis122

macrumors regular
Jun 6, 2010
149
0
checking email on my GS3 it has no clue what a tracking number. I touch on the number to track my iPhone5 and it sends me to phone instead of internet. how dumb

I believe it did before, I think that was in the Apple vs Samsung lawsuit
 

JGIGS

macrumors 68000
Jan 1, 2008
1,825
2,086
CANADA!
I believe it did before, I think that was in the Apple vs Samsung lawsuit

Wow you can patent a link that tracks a package? Geez patents really are out of control. I think I'm going to patent breathing and become a kajillionaire.
 

cynics

macrumors G4
Jan 8, 2012
11,959
2,156
My iPhone thinks every number on it is a phone number or calender date.....its just as bad as anything I've seen on android....
 

KnightWRX

macrumors Pentium
Jan 28, 2009
15,046
4
Quebec, Canada
Why is it necessary to also do it on an Apple fan site?

Macrumors is not an Apple fan site. It's an Apple rumors site. We're not all Apple fans. Get over it.

You want Apple Insider.

And again, you're in the Alternatives to iOS section. Here, you're the one that's basically "trolling" and "astroturfing" if you're just here to put down the discussion. This section is for Mac/iOS users that want to discuss the alternatives. It's not a "bash the competition" sub-forum. If you're suggesting that non-fans of Apple who do use Apple products should leave this site, then at least have the decency to practice what you preach :

Leave this section now and never come back.
 

jstrahan73

macrumors regular
Jun 17, 2009
110
3
Louisiana
My iPhone thinks every number on it is a phone number or calender date.....its just as bad as anything I've seen on android....

just tried it on my wife's 4s. it loaded safari and went to FedEx. and when I had my i it always went to tracking info no matter who the carrier was
 

cynics

macrumors G4
Jan 8, 2012
11,959
2,156
just tried it on my wife's 4s. it loaded safari and went to FedEx. and when I had my i it always went to tracking info no matter who the carrier was

It gets tracking numbers right (assuming there is no gap in the number) but I'm talking about random numbers in emails. I have a web based email via John Hopkins and its a constant annoyance, its the same way with UMMC. I notice so often because I'll tap to zoom and it will activate phone or calendar... Its like, no iPhone don't call 40-123....lol
 

jstrahan73

macrumors regular
Jun 17, 2009
110
3
Louisiana
It gets tracking numbers right (assuming there is no gap in the number) but I'm talking about random numbers in emails. I have a web based email via John Hopkins and its a constant annoyance, its the same way with UMMC. I notice so often because I'll tap to zoom and it will activate phone or calendar... Its like, no iPhone don't call 40-123....lol

40-123...
hey that's my number. lol
 

jstrahan73

macrumors regular
Jun 17, 2009
110
3
Louisiana
2 years contract required:

Total IP5 cost = 24 * $80 + {$199, $299, $399} = {$2119, $2219, $2319}

TOTAL RIP-OFF... :eek:

so what smartphone doesnt have 24*$80 on contract and if you get it off contract its $650, $750, $850 and you still got $80 per month unless you go prepaid but then service area is limited
 

cynics

macrumors G4
Jan 8, 2012
11,959
2,156
2 years contract required:

Total IP5 cost = 24 * $80 + {$199, $299, $399} = {$2119, $2219, $2319}

TOTAL RIP-OFF... :eek:

Are you in the US? From what I've noticed (my employer buys my phones and contract) the price is the same regardless of contract or not, this is assuming you want a certain carrier....

For me, technically the iphone having a 40-50% profit margin makes it a "rip-off" to not buy under contract. Why pay 600-700+ for a 300-350 dollar phone when the carrier can absorb that cost?

This may vary outside the US though....not sure really..
 

Rogifan

macrumors Penryn
Nov 14, 2011
24,734
32,198
Macrumors is not an Apple fan site. It's an Apple rumors site. We're not all Apple fans. Get over it.

You want Apple Insider.

And again, you're in the Alternatives to iOS section. Here, you're the one that's basically "trolling" and "astroturfing" if you're just here to put down the discussion. This section is for Mac/iOS users that want to discuss the alternatives. It's not a "bash the competition" sub-forum. If you're suggesting that non-fans of Apple who do use Apple products should leave this site, then at least have the decency to practice what you preach :

Leave this section now and never come back.
No it's not a bash the competition sub-forum. It's a bash Apple sub forum on an Apple fan site. :rolleyes:
 

sofianito

macrumors 65816
Jan 14, 2011
1,207
2
Spain
Are you in the US? From what I've noticed (my employer buys my phones and contract) the price is the same regardless of contract or not, this is assuming you want a certain carrier....

For me, technically the iphone having a 40-50% profit margin makes it a "rip-off" to not buy under contract. Why pay 600-700+ for a 300-350 dollar phone when the carrier can absorb that cost?

This may vary outside the US though....not sure really..

I live in spain, and I can tell you things are worse here in all aspects... :D. Network carriers in spain do not subsidy iphone. They sell it to you at the price of a free-unlocked one, but it is locked and they require you a 1 year permanent contract in order to provide you the unlocking code... :rolleyes:
 

cynics

macrumors G4
Jan 8, 2012
11,959
2,156
No it's not a bash the competition sub-forum. It's a bash Apple sub forum on an Apple fan site. :rolleyes:

Do you think there would be more or less bashing if these topics or kept PURELY to alternatives to iOS? Essentially there would be no arguments or bashing in this section if everyone kept iOS out of it. And to be less abstract iOS is only really brought up by the iOS only members.

I can appreciate both. I enjoy both. I dont see the problem with either. But if I mention a benefit of Android over iOS here people jump down my throat. The same applies for Android forums, if someone goes on about something dumb and I correct them all of a sudden I'm a apple fanboy....

Personally I like both and I think my problem is I cant understand why someone would actually hate the opposing OS. That is almost as foreign to me as racism, you dont like it because its.....whaaaaa?
 

KnightWRX

macrumors Pentium
Jan 28, 2009
15,046
4
Quebec, Canada
No it's not a bash the competition sub-forum. It's a bash Apple sub forum on an Apple fan site. :rolleyes:

Why can't you accept that you're wrong ?

- This section is not a "bash Apple sub forum". Mac users use alternatives to iOS. iOS users use iOS alternatives too. This is a place to discuss them and in fact, with other Mac/iOS user, maybe to get tips on integration, etc..

- This is not an Apple fan site. Get that out of your head. CultofMac, Apple Insider, those are Apple fan sites. Macrumors is not.

I don't know how this can be more clear. Now stop posting here just to flame and get responses. That's poor conduct. If you don't like this sub-forum, leave it. If you can't discuss the topics here without resorting to useless Apple cheerleading and bashing the people that are trying to hold conversations about the topics of Alternatives to iOS, leave the sub-forum. If you can't tolerate that not everyone is a big Apple fan, go to another site where only big Apple fans hang out.
 

sam.dg

macrumors newbie
Sep 16, 2012
10
0
I'm under this impression that most of the iphone buyers buy iPhone not because they find it the better smartphone for their use, but because the brand Apple and the product iPhone sounds smarter than the others!

I might be wrong, of course! :p
 

bobob

macrumors 68040
Jan 11, 2008
3,437
2,520
2 years contract required:

Total IP5 cost = 24 * $80 + {$199, $299, $399} = {$2119, $2219, $2319}

TOTAL RIP-OFF... :eek:

Without the contract an unlocked Samsung S3 only costs $50 less - and that's for a 6 month old phone.
 

JGIGS

macrumors 68000
Jan 1, 2008
1,825
2,086
CANADA!
Without the contract an unlocked Samsung S3 only costs $50 less - and that's for a 6 month old phone.

In Canada the cost difference off ontract is $100. 16gb iphone 5 $699 vs 16 gb SG3 $600. The big difference starts to come in when you want more storage. You can buy a $20 32 GB micro SD card and have 48 gigs on an SG3 for 620 vs $799 (-$180) and 16 extra gig. Then if you want at least 64 gb it goes to 899 - 650 (-250) + an extra 16GB.

Expandable memory is handy!
 

yeah

macrumors 65816
Jul 12, 2011
1,001
378
That Samsung list is not long enough. :p

IP5 missing ALL of following:

HARDWARE
- bigger 4.8in + AMOLED screen
- storage upto 96GB (32Gb + 64Gb external)
- removable battery
- better 2MP front camera + more functional camera app
- USB To Go (direct connect to portable drive, keyboard, game controller, usb-hub etc)
- unrestricted Bluetooth
- Wifi-Direct
- DLNA / Allshare / AllCast
- NFC - direct share/beam, automate phone tasks with TecTiles/tags, NFC payment
- HDMI out (video and UI)
- standard USB-port (no need for proprietary and expensive adapters/cables)

PHONE
- One touch dial/sms (via desktop shortcuts) + Speed dial with phone keypad
- Picture contact/log (incl. grid view) and unlimited call log
- contact sync/integration with fb,tw,skype,g+ etc
- 3G-standard video call
- Motion: Flip to silent, Pick-to-call, Touch for missed call/sms, Tilt to zoom, double-tap to scroll
- multi-purpose LED indicator
- Smart Stay (keep screen on via face detection)
- Built-in call-blocker (to keep away unwanted calls)
- Unrestricted internal storage access via USB (or other connectivity methods)
- File-system
- Full email attachment support

UI
- various desktop launcher UI to cater to any taste
- Widgets (one-glance for essential info)
- Live Wallpaper (aesthetic)
- Lock Screen direct launch
- Quick Toggles in Notification
- Full Multi-Tasking
- Back button for easier back navigation (+ reduces screen space wastage)
- Replaceable keyboard (swype/T9/variants etc)
- Non-centralized settings :p
- Various media format support (avi, divx, mkv etc) - no need for tedious itunes conversion
- Popup-Play
- Web-broswer text reflow (+Flash support)
- UI Font Type/Size selection

APPS (not possible for IOS due to limitations/restrictions)
- Side-loading of apps + browser-based app installation
- Better Google-based services/apps
- Free 50GB drop-box storage
- Plug-and-Play (seamlessly replace built-in apps with 3rd party)
- Intents (manually choose which installed app to launch based on content-type)
- Automation-type apps e.g.
o automaticly switch phone settings (vol, bt, wifi etc) based on events/states/gps/nfc
o phone call recording
o NFC tasks (tectiles) - e.g. tap to call/sms directly (or change phone settings)
o schedule auto send sms/email based on events (birthday, meeting reminders etc)
o auto check-in, auto upload photos/info
o etc etc

Wow I just noticed something, Die-hard Android fanboys/girls really have the time to bash Apple and get nothing out of it :rolleyes:
 

monkeylui

macrumors 6502
Oct 11, 2011
403
0
A Galaxy far, far away
In Canada the cost difference off ontract is $100. 16gb iphone 5 $699 vs 16 gb SG3 $600. The big difference starts to come in when you want more storage. You can buy a $20 32 GB micro SD card and have 48 gigs on an SG3 for 620 vs $799 (-$180) and 16 extra gig. Then if you want at least 64 gb it goes to 899 - 650 (-250) + an extra 16GB.

Expandable memory is handy!

You can barely do anything with that memory card though. I have the S3 and the stupid phone always wants to install to the internal memory. I'd rather just have al of the memory on board like I had with my iPhone 4S. Everything works smoothly that way.
 
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