I thought the same thing about Siri when I first got my 4S. But the more I used it the more useful it became. It DOES have a nice "Raise to Speak" feature that you just lift the phone to your ear and it launches Siri, no need ot hold the home button. I use it to make appointments (MUCH faster than launching app, going to the date and typing it in), send texts, play music, create notes, add items to lists etc. it's actually quite useful.
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See Samsung's Sunday newspaper ad about the iPhone 5. Whats your thoughts? (merged)
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I thought the same thing about Siri when I first got my 4S. But the more I used it the more useful it became. It DOES have a nice "Raise to Speak" feature that you just lift the phone to your ear and it launches Siri, no need ot hold the home button. I use it to make appointments (MUCH faster than launching app, going to the date and typing it in), send texts, play music, create notes, add items to lists etc. it's actually quite useful.
True but if there are faster processors and larger ram available prior to the release of a new iphone does it hurt to put it in the iphone regardless? It would also help future proof it longer. Just ask iphone, 3g, 3gs and iphone 4 users if they wish apple would have put more mhz into the phone so they could have siri, 3d maps and turn by turn nav. Oh wait I am an iphone 4 user and would have appreciated it.
Oh but then if I can use those features on my 4 I don't need to upgrade to a 4s or a 5. Interrrrrresting
But you see, Apple would have never ran an ad like this... Furthermore, even if they ran a similar "comparison ad" like the mac vs pc ads, they wouldn't bring up trivial features as a competitive advantage. About the only two samsung features that I think are "decent" and that I would like to have on the iPhone are NFC and SmartStay. There are many more features that make iOS and iPhone better or more appealing in my opinion that Samsung cleverly managed to leave out.
However, I'm not that upset about not having NFC due to passbook and the fact that theft over NFC is becoming increasingly common and a more serious threat.
If you look at mac vs pc ads, some highlighted how they were better then windows (such as not getting viruses, etc). But the majority of the ads focused on how they aimed at different things. With them even recognizing that windows pc is "good for businesses with math and numbers" but mac is great for personal with more creative apps and higher reliability.
Is Apple a perfect company? Of course not, but I believe they have such a massive and loyal following for the same reason Mercedes-Benz makes great vehicles and keeps shattering sales records with some of the most loyal customers.
Mercedes vehicles aren't always the fastest, nor do they have the latest technology or the best value. However, they are great at innovating (safety features, heck, creation of the automobile) and the overall package they provide is very refined, controlled and not to mention, luxurious/premium.
That depends. What are the pro's and cons to adding a faster processor, more ram etc? Does it raise costs/lower profits? Will it make a noticeable difference (other than for marketing purposes)? Will it decrease battery life? Then there's the inevitable "will it keep repeat customers from buying our next release sooner"? One of the main reasons, i believe at least, that cars, washing machines, toaster ovens etc. don't last as long as they used to.
NFC isn't just for sending things between two phones you don't even have to use that feature if you are worried about getting a virus but most people are sending pics and vids then made and contacts on the phone so I think the risk is low for that stuff.
You can use NFC tags that change your setting say when you get to the office and put your phone down and lauch apps. Not a real necessarry function but hand so people in the office don't yell at you if your phone starts ringing and you not at your desk beacause you forgot to put your phone on silent. (past experience)
I'm not sure but I think you can associate a credit card to google wallet and use at places that have tap and go credit card functions? I might be wrong about that one. (probably am lol)
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If other smartphone makers who use os's that require more resources can use fast processors and maintain decent battery life I'm sure Apple can figure it out. As a consumer what do I care about Apples profit margin? Last time I checked they are not suffering and I'm certain there markup very healthy.
Ummm yes the main point of my post was they put inferior processors to make sure you buy the next iphone.
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It's called planned obsolecense my friend. But with the same step. Even if there were faster processesors available back when the 3GS, iPhone 4, etc were made as well as more ram. It doesn't mean that it woudl be a good idea to include the very best.
The power consumption and battery life would have been horrible, the equivalent of a Hummer sucking down gas. Not to mention, that they would definitely not have been offered at the price point they had, as it would need to be much more expensive.
So in the end, even if they had "future proofed" the devices, like you have said. It would have created for an expensive, energy sucking experience that most likely still wouldn't have been nearly as good as the devices today, since even the very best processors years ago can't hold a match to the stuff we have today.
Lastly, my 32GB iPhone 4 is worth the same as the iPhone 5 32GB if I sell it used. So essentially, I haven't ever had to pay for a phone. Its more like I pay an upfront cost and then get the money back when I sell it.
No their profit margin might not matter to you, but to them it's important. They are in business to make money. Just like Nokia, MS, Samsung, Google...
And I'm not sure it's an inferior processor, the new A6 is supposedly a take on the ARM15 processor which is pretty good. If I'm not mistaken, the iPhone 4 was released back in June of 2010... 2 and a half years ago, and it still pretty much can run iOS 5 (and now 6) pretty well. Technology is changing fast, so naturally after iPhone 5 is released, few months later a newer/faster chip will be available, making the 5 outdated.
I'm not an android user, but can someone tell me how well 2.5 year old android phone runs Jelly Bean? Probably no different than the iPhone 4 runs the latest iOS I would guess.
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It is kind of a good ad making the s3 look better than what it is. I recently got the s3 but I am pretty sure that I am going back to iPhone. I like the s3 but android annoys me somewhat. I miss iMessage quite a lot since I am in buildings that have horrible cell coverage. I liked game center. iTunes is so much better and I like the genius playlists. The iPhone has a better battery than any android. I miss the mute button on the iPhone. If apple made an ad like this they could make a list of all the features that the s3 doesn't have
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I haven't tried that one, a few of my friends have different androids and they are always having to charge their phone.
So basically when Samsung does something, they are the devil. When Apple does something, they are the angels.
They are friggin' products people! Again, you guys didn't have a problem with the Mac vs PC ads. Those adds couldn't be shown in certain countries or had to be changed siginficantly because it would be offensive. And let's not forget the criticism:
In an article for Slate magazine, Seth Stevenson criticized the campaign as being too "mean spirited", suggesting, "isn't smug superiority (no matter how affable and casually dressed) a bit off-putting as a brand strategy?
Again, Apple's campaign was offensive to many.
They are friggin' products people! Again, you guys didn't have a problem with the Mac vs PC ads. Those adds couldn't be shown in certain countries or had to be changed siginficantly because it would be offensive. And let's not forget the criticism:
In an article for Slate magazine, Seth Stevenson criticized the campaign as being too "mean spirited", suggesting, "isn't smug superiority (no matter how affable and casually dressed) a bit off-putting as a brand strategy?
Again, Apple's campaign was offensive to many.
The problem with the Samsung ad is that its misleading to some degree, but what really ticks me off is the "doesn't take a genius" phrase. The fact that Samsung is basically calling all iPhone users idiots for not choosing their product. Tell me why in the heck am I going to switch to a galaxy universe solar system 3 yada yada yada phone when they put potential customers down? It's illogical an insulting. That's why the apple fans get on the defensive.
I don't see it as offensive apple users its more of pun directed at the fact that apple calls there employees geniuses. That and the fact that the recent apple genius commercials where a huge flop.
Oh and the mac vs. pc commercials couldn't be considered offensive to pc users? The pc was a bumbling idiot lol. Its advertising take it for what it is and don't take it seriously.
The "I'm a Mac" ads were VERY offensive to me because of the way it portrayed the PC. Maybe what's why most people are still on WINDOWS computers.
Stop being a whiny brat. Seriously it's just a damn phone. They aren't threatening you're life for not buying an S3!
I'm about to go on the same adventure and I'm sure I'm going to miss iMessage because I like being able to send messages to peoples phone but use my macbook to do it.
To bad apple won't let a third party mighty text provide there app so we could have a multi platform solution. Or if I could send what's up messages on my keyboard ahhh well.
I think my provider has the rogers 1 thing that might let me type sms messages from my computer. I guess I'll look into that.
If apple pimps up and does a nice refresh to ios (widgets etc) I'll be running back with a fist full of dollars! Book it!
Heck, that's nothing in comparison to Apple's recent ads that basically called their own users idiots, for not knowing how to do common creative actions on the expensive products they bought.
Not to mention Apple showing iPhone users talking to their devices as if they had no real people to converse with, and even asking their phone it was raining... while they stand at a window. (*)
Taking offense is easy. It's seeing the humor in it all, that takes a bit of wisdom and maturity.
(*) Mind you, Zooey can do that all day long, as far as I'm concerned
I doubt Apple will ever allow for expandable storage. They could no longer effectively price gouge for the next "model" up (16, 32, 64 GB).
This are installed file size. Like dead trigger was a 20 meg file then like you said the additional content was the other 140 meg.
I never had any stability issues. But I only use Nexus devices.
That would be sweet if there was cross platform iMessage built right into texting.
I really believe that iOS 7 will be the start of a new looking iOS. There isn't a whole lot more they can do with ios without changing some things around so I think it will be gradual but we will start to see some new fresh features in ios. Like instead of five rows of icons, use one row for some type of widget.
+1, I got to the point that I don't want almost none of apple services or devises. They're getting too big for their own good. Hate using iTunes, they used to be plain and simple to use, now its like mixed bowl of what ever. I really used to love apple for their simple and just works approach, no so now
Maybe you need to stick to the non-Alternatives subforums if it upsets you so much.I wonder when they're going to change the name of this site to SamsungFans.com. I've never seen so many Samsung defenders on an Apple fan site