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Serious question about loyalty.
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I have done the math and you're wrong. Do this math - how many completely unnecessary $1000 external enclosures and $100 cables will you need to support 16TB of storage?
You need to find a new vendor for your computer gear, you're getting cheated on pricing.
A single Pegasus2 4 bay will get you 16TB of raw storage for $699 (if you buy from Apple and don't shop around at all). It will be just as fast as your internal storage, and TB2 is not a bottleneck for that number of drives. And it comes with the cable.
But you knew that already.
As another Epic owner, I do have use for the new MP. Although I won´t by one just yet, the Dragon upgrade is where my money will go first.
Right now I´m using a PC with 2 internal RAIDs made out of 4TB enterprise drives. Althoug that is very handy right now, it will take a lot of time to move the 10TB project and all its files when we have finished our last project and I´m starting to think that it actually would have been nice if they were on external raids as I could have just unhooked the RAID and hooked up another one and be instantly ready to start a new project.
Dependswhat you do if CUDA is really important to your workflow or not. Adobe is already supporting the new double GPU set up in the new MP and support will probably just get better.
TB2 isn´t really a bottleneck for R3D files as far as I´m aware, where do you have this information from?
Premiere is a good question, how does it handle the dual GPUs in the nMP?
But the Apple software issue is a fair one.. that's one of the reasons I'm using Lightroom instead of Aperture..
I'm pretty sure announcing a new modular/expandable version of the old MP case would GET Tim Cook canned.
BTW, either development of the nMP started under Steve Jobs, in which case he's to "blame" or it started under Tim Cook, which would mean Steve abandoned pretty much abandoned the MP entirely.
If Apple is not stupid CoreImage and CoreVideo will soon utilize multiple gpus so every App using these APIs will be using the DualGPUs without any need to change them.
Of course, that does require chaining oneself to Adobe CC... I'll live with Lightroom with the updates for now..
Of course, that does require chaining oneself to Adobe CC... I'll live with Lightroom with the updates for now..
True, I was also talking about Premiere, not photoshop. Not sure about photoshop.
I refused to get CC personally and is stuck with CS5.5, but we have it at our small office.
Yeah, I do most of my work in LR, and that's where I really need the speed. PS 5.5 is fine for working single files, but with piles of D800 files, need more speed in LR.
I'll hold out with 5.5 as long as it runs on the nMP and whatever the current OS is.
Whats your source on the meaning of "professional" - Wiki?
I sent your opinion to Tim Cook and he replied - "Art who?".
I sent your opinion to Tim Cook and he replied - "Art who?".
Yeah I always wonder why the guys from Hollywood look so down at other computer using professions...
They have actually taken a post they put in that thread. Made it longer and then created a entirely new thread for it.
If you got that information from here http://www.theverge.com/2013/12/23/5234574/apple-mac-pro-review-2013 you forgot to mention the cost was straight out of the the $8,099 dollar box!
Lucrative as could be!! Glad you asked. But, don't be mislead, I'm not a video editor any longer. (I'm a photo editor for a wedding photographer in Hawaii.) Since you asked, our video pals are raking in the loot! All the while we're surrounded by happy, pleasant people, enjoying a love-filled celebration. And I'll take that over hanging out with a bunch of chest-puffing, tech pedants, any old day of the week. Your blatant self-righteousness is disgusting and your condescending attitude is something I will certainly never miss about the "industry". Ugh!
Since we're inquiring, let me turn the tables and ask: How's the Reality TV show business? These banal, vapid shows would certainly fall under your exalted moniker of "the entertainment industry". No? There are so many TV shows and movies that come out in a years time that are utter garbage. I wouldn't be proud to be involved with these productionsI'd be embarrassed! So if you're going to throw stones at one sector of post-production (wedding folks) why aren't you disparaging your colleagues, the poor souls that got stuck scouring over Honey Boo Boo, frame-by-frame. Intervention? The Kardashians. The Bachelor. ...These empty turds are actually the popular ones. This list doesn't even start to scratch the surface of the trash heap that is contemporary "entertainment". Bravo! Be sure to hoist your trophy to the heavens, oh master of "Film &/or Television Production." We praise you.
If you're so smart, why didn't you see the writing on the wall years ago? If we're going to view Apple's decisions, as a move away from the real Pro sector, it definitely didn't start with the release of the new Mac Pro. It happened a long time ago. Where have you been? If you were paying attention to the industry you would've fixed the impending problem before it was a problem. Plenty of other "loyalists" have moved on. You should too. And see if you can find someone to hug on the way out the door. You're bitter.
As defined, strictly, by you.
Professional is defined by your behavior, not your toolset.
Yep, if he is the representative of the film/broadcast industry, we'd be better off without them...
Um, you seem to be changing it to pricing of external enclosures, trying to avoid the bottleneck statement you made.
Just install Red Rocket in 5.1 and you can do more than on new Mac Pro mini with RED cameras
http://www.red.com/products/red-rocket
"Optimized for the 6K RED DRAGON® sensor, this product is designed to accelerate the process of your R3D workflow, regardless of resolution. Using Dual DisplayPort + Dual HD-SDI 1.5G/3G for video output, RED ROCKET-X provides real time 4K playback directly to your 4K display or projector.
Compared to the previous RED ROCKET, RED ROCKET-X processes and transcodes files up to 5x faster. The RED ROCKET-X supports Stereo 3D video output. A redesigned chassis works to protect the card, which uses a Full-length PCIe x16 requiring external 6-pin (75W) PCIe power for installation in your Mac or PC. The new RED ROCKET-X no longer requires or supports the Breakout Box."
Wonder if you could install that in nMP Mini
I have to say from my perspective as a Hollywood Post Person (patent pending) everyone in our studio is VERY excited about the New Mac Pro.
We're all Avid based and even though media composer is a bit behind with this new technology, it is still a great sign of things to come in portability and use both on and off location.
We're stoked to use them with our Reds and with our VFX crews.
I've also had talks with some at Apple that realize that they've lost the pro market the past few years and they are making a push to try and reclaim them back. They know that they have to 'earn' this and it will be an uphill battle.
Obviously others may think what they may but we'll run our television shows (all NON reality) and features through these machines and hope for the best.
To each their own but that's my take on things.
We're all Avid based and even though media composer is a bit behind with this new technology, it is still a great sign of things to come in portability and use both on and off location.
We're stoked to use them with our Reds and with our VFX crews.
I've also had talks with some at Apple that realize that they've lost the pro market the past few years and they are making a push to try and reclaim them back. They know that they have to 'earn' this and it will be an uphill battle.
Obviously others may think what they may but we'll run our television shows (all NON reality) and features through these machines and hope for the best.
To each their own but that's my take on things.
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