It looks intriguing. My engineering geek is whispering in my ear. Oh, wait, my wife is whispering something more loudly in my other ear ...
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It looks intriguing. My engineering geek is whispering in my ear. Oh, wait, my wife is whispering something more loudly in my other ear ...
Do you see people wearing these widely? I honestly don’t…it would need to be more like regular glasses…
And that’s not even addressing $3.5k…
I'd give it 2 or 3 years... I could see it being used at a Starbucks, but I don't see it being as popular as wearing an Apple Watch. What had me pleasantly surprised was that its see through, so you can still interact with the outside world.
Not really "see thru"...
You are looking at what the cameras see...
And the part where others can "see" your eyes...?
They are actually seeing a digital representation of your face that you load to the system with initial setup...
My apology for using the term "see though." I understand that it's technically not "see through" as in wearing "eye glasses" where there's transparency. I was more making a point that most headsets do not provide this kind of feature.
Not something I'd wear outside, but at home/office, yeah, I think I could wear them. I can see somebody like my mom getting this to use instead of TV/monitor. She lives in a small apartment, this would let her have a big virtual TV while not taking up apartment space. Price is too high for that right now, but if the price comes down, yeah, I can see her using this.
Actually, I did read the entire post and it was littered with incendiary and extremely biased comments about the iPad and its supposed failings. Those comments, and similar ones made by others on this forum stem from the assumption that iPad is supposed to be a “skinny Mac”, but has failed miserably at doing so.
Look, I get that there are those who dream of iPad being that magical device that does everything in a slim and light form factor. I used to be one of them! For that notion I blame Tim Cook’s “why would you ever buy a PC?“ comment when the iPad Pro was first launched in 2015, as well as Apple’s pretentious MacBook-level pricing.
But the fact remains that Apple never intended iPad to be a Mac replacement (Tim Cook singled out “PCs”) despite it selling those (again, over-priced) laptop-ish keyboards. That’s why I find it odd that nerds, who have none of the responsibility for creating and marketing the products of a major international tech corporation, get so vexed when Apple doesn’t make the iPad what they think it should be.
We have to assume that a successful $1 trillion+ corporation whose products are beloved all over the world, knows what it’s doing, even if it’s not always what we want.
Will Apple create a tablet computer that runs a full desktop OS? Possibly, in the future. Will it be the iPad? Perhaps not, but with Apples talent and resources, it doesn’t have to be.
In the meantime, we have what we have. While of course it’s OK to wish for something better, Apple has been making steady, if slow, progress on iPad since its launch. I mean, look at the original iPad. Compared to what we have today, it’s like the Ford Model T.
I am not, pretty disappointed. I'll see how much SM is improved before I update. Also let's see if this applies only to the external display or works on the iPad too, including the A12X/Z ones. The file apps needs improvement too.
We didn’t get much but was expected.
I thought MacOS was even less interesting though
I thought MacOS was even less interesting though
Yeah personally I'll stay on Monterey with both my M1 and my 12" Macbooks
iPadOS 16 was a big update… external display support, window resizing along, virtual memory swap along with desktop class API. I wasn’t expecting nothing drastic for iPadOS 17 given the previous update… I knew Lockscreen customization was coming and it was implemented well.
Using window resizing on iPadOS 17 isn’t as drastic as I would like, but it’s improved. I agree Files app needs improvements, but I get by with using FileBrowser at the moment. I played with interactive widgets for the Music app… anxious to see what devs do with it come September especially the XL widget.
I recently “upgraded“ to ventura but preferred Monterey for sure.
These days I prefer windows on my macs.
let’s hope stage manager is an improvement vs the current iteration on iPadOS 16 because for me it’s pretty useless. I much prefer the old split / shelf / slide-over option
These days I prefer windows on my macs.
let’s hope stage manager is an improvement vs the current iteration on iPadOS 16 because for me it’s pretty useless. I much prefer the old split / shelf / slide-over option
iPadOS 16 was a big updated... for M1 iPads, but a rather minor one for any other iPad....
And while I have an M1 12.9 and will be buying a larger iPad whenever it's sold, I'll keep using my non M-series iPads for years and there is not much for them that other than local Stage manager on the A12X/Z.
At this point I am hoping more from third party apps (and over the past 6 months we got some major ones in video editing and music, and I am not even talking about Final Cut and Logic...) than from OS updates.
This just clicked with me - it requires a Mac. So, if your environment is PC-based, you have a problem. I'd hate to drop almost $4K (adding in tax) for the headset and then have to additionally invest in a Mac.
Yes, it’s standalone. But I don’t think it can connect to a PC and display the content shown compared to having a Mac.
Agree, but it really needs something like the Mac for a lot of useful functionality - at least to get your money's worth out of it.
To be more attractive to a wider market, for one thing. It's a showstopper for me to even consider one.
I can see myself having one, I never owned a AR/VR headset… I used a Oculus briefly, but it didn’t really interest me.
And I recently picked up one of those Super Ultra-Wide monitors which caused me to rearrange my desk setup, I’ll consider buying the VisionPro in a year or two. By then it will have gone through its paces.
I also have an Oculus (somewhere) and found that I really didn't enjoy wearing a headset and don't feel I'd want to wear even a high-end one for an extended period. But this one does look interesting and I'd love to test drive one but I couldn't see putting out a large amount of dollars for one. If it catches on, it will be interesting to watch the evolution
I think what makes VisionPro stand out compared to a Oculus is the fact you can see your what’s going on in the outside world. And I believe that will make a huge difference as far as tolerating it on your head for extended periods.
I gotta give Apple credit with that solution… but I’m not in a rush to buy one. I’ll most likely following the same approach when I purchased the AirPods Max, didn’t buy it upon launch waited nearly two years (got it for a nice discount).
I'm a retired h/w & s/w engineer and did a lot of work on flight systems, command & control systems, etc. and could imagine a lot of potential applications for these (e.g., look at what the F-35 Helmet Mounted Display does for a pilot). Plus, usage in training systems, interior design, ... A lot of AR potential there.
Nah. Comfort is #1.
Most folks won't be wearing these for extended periods unless they're comfortable.
Apple's single intention is to make money. What you perceive as their "intention" with a specific platform was a business decision to drive sales. That's the bottom line. This thread starts with a poll on what we want the iPad to be, yet those who argue that the iPad form factor with its current hardware is capable of more get shot down. You seem to be doing the very thing you are accusing me of.
We'll have to agree to disagree.