Thanks for the answer.
I wasn't so lucky, I have submitted a request to have my account deleted.
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I wasn't so lucky, I have submitted a request to have my account deleted.
Really?!
it’s been easy for you?! 
none of the services I use have made it any easier. 
clearly I’m not a target market for these guys. I didn’t even know they started doing mobile payments these days.
Really?!it’s been easy for you?!
none of the services I use have made it any easier.
Definitely not all apps but some have been easy! For example, I do recall the following recent apps were relatively easy converting existing accounts to SIWA: IMDB, Jurassic World Alive, and Call of Duty.
But you’re right. Many apps are still difficult.
Definitely not all apps but some have been easy! For example, I do recall the following recent apps were relatively easy converting existing accounts to SIWA: IMDB, Jurassic World Alive, and Call of Duty.
But you’re right. Many apps are still difficult.
The whole point of Sign In with Apple is the anonymity. If you’re either merging or switching from your old account then you’re giving up on that. I’m not sure if it gains us anything at all. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Same here! Finding it difficult to delete accounts from the multiple services I’ve signed up for that now offer SIWA.Really?!
Some services make it really easy and offer the delete account option within your settings.
Others you have to send an email to their customer service which I’ve found to be a hit or miss. Some will write back within a day obliging to delete your account, and others you won’t hear from possibly due to lack of staff and resources as a result of the pandemic.
You’re right. I really haven’t kept up to date on this thread so the point of privacy has glossed over me a bit. I wish there was an elegant want to merge accounts while retaining anonymity. Looks like I’ll have some tough decisions to make.
That’s kind of by definition impossible. If what makes up your identity on that website and was previously associated with a known email address is now linked to your so called “anonymous“ email, then your “anonymous“ new account is now known to be associated with your previous identity that can be tracked via your known real email. Not so anonymous.
I’ve gone through all my websites and honestly, I overestimated how many of my accounts had anything worth keeping. The overwhelming majority turned out to be completely disposable.
Sure, some sites like Etsy, eBay and Wish had a history of my past purchases, but so what? No real value in keeping that. SoundCloud, I had a bunch of tracks I had liked and artists I followed. Easy enough to copy them over to a new account. I had a few food apps that had some accumulated points. When I did the math, those points were worth a couple of bucks altogether. My privacy is worth more than that.
My goal is to eventually have no account passwords. I went through my Keychain and was able to delete about a third of it after converting accounts to Sign In With Apple and deleting defunct websites or sites I signed up for single use. I look forward to a near future when my face is the only password I’ll ever need.
I’ve been doing this but suddenly hit a roadblock with my grocery app (Kroger). My dilema is if I chose to use SIWA and delete my account with the grocery, then I won’t reap the benefits offered by the grocery store card, i.e. discounted prices and gas points.
With the new UPS SIWA option, you have the ability to link a current account with Apple, which I did.
This is what’s confusing me so much. Does linking an existing account to SIWA (hide email) defeat the purposes of privacy or not?
From what I can tell, the email is still hidden. When I logged in just now, I could see that Apple was using the AppleID site as part of the SIWA process.
I totally understand you now and you've inspired me. I'd love to to do the same and try to downsize my account passwords as much as possible well. So by eliminating account passwords, are you doing this by actually contacting these companies and actively closing accounts and then creating new replacement accounts via SIWA? And what if I've already happened to merge an account with SIWA? If I close the merged account, how will it affect the existing SIWA?
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UPS implementation turns out to be very shady. If you link your preexisting account then it works, but you've technically gained nothing.
On the other hand if you create a new SIWA UPS account then they force you to create a password, and give your email. Here you could copy the hidden SIWA email and add, but the password allows for an attack vector.
iPedro has said a lot about the privacy aspects of SIWA throughout this thread, and I completely agree. What's been talked less about is security. SIWA greatly enhances security, when implemented correctly. Many websites do not offer things like 2 factor authentication. It's a password and that's it. SIWA requires 2 factor authentication. When an account can only be logged into using SIWA it's much more secure than a regular email + password account.
When accounts allow for linking to SIWA but still allow for the password sign in, then all the security advantages (in addition to privacy talked about by iPedro) are lost. For the account to have ultimate online security + convenience it must only offer SIWA, not password + SIWA.
Thanks for the post.
When I log in now on UPS, I use SIWA and don’t have to give a password to gain access. As to what you were saying with new accounts, I agree. They make you input the email and password when trying to use SIWA. When I saw that, I said no way am I creating a new account and creating a risk. For myself.
@BasicGreatGuy so let me see if I’m doing this SIWA correctly and understanding it.
With the Kroger app, I choose SIWA and hide my email. So far so good and it logs me in. Then it brings me to another screen asking me to link the account I already with them by entering my user email and password.
I’m guessing that last part is a no-no and they (Kroger) didn’t implement the SIWA too well?
With the Kroger app, I choose SIWA and hide my email. So far so good and it logs me in. Then it brings me to another screen asking me to link the account I already with them by entering my user email and password.
I’m guessing that last part is a no-no and they (Kroger) didn’t implement the SIWA too well?
Correct. I would not use SIWA with Kroger. They are violating the purpose of SIWA. They are doing that because they sell your information to others.
This is the first year and the implementation is basic. Like a lot of other things Apple does, they release a functional foundation on which they build on consistently until the product is mature.
In the very next iteration, I expect Apple to close the loopholes that allow developers to get around the primary purpose of Sign In With Apple: privacy and security.
As soon as it becomes mandatory, we’ll start to see Apple close the net even tighter.
Wherever possible, yes.
I haven’t come across one that makes it difficult to delete an account, though I know others have. There are also apps and websites that no longer exist. I’ll just assume that their email list died with the site and if not, I’ve changed my email address in the last few years and plan to again when I’ve migrated all my accounts to Sign In With Apple.
I have. I’ve been going through my iCloud Keychain to see what accounts I’ve got opened, then go to the respective websites and delete it directly or request it. Most website have obliged and honored my request. Others I haven’t heard back from, e.g. Chegg which could be from a lack of staff re: COVID-19; other websites have said they’ve deleted it but strangely enough I can still login to the site, e.g. Redbox; and AirBnb told me it would take some time to delete which I don’t understand so they “deactivated“ it instead for the time being which to me doesn’t instill confidence.