Only fanboys would even care about one company copying another's design.
For the educated consumer they are happy for the increased options available to them.
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So essentially, with the new larger screens, we end up copying competitors.
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Only fanboys would even care about one company copying another's design.
For the educated consumer they are happy for the increased options available to them.
Apple copies a rival and it's no big deal, a rival copies Apple and hell breaks loose...
If Apple were at any point innovative with their products, in particular the Iphone, they are not any longer.
If Apple were at any point innovative with their products, in particular the Iphone, they are not any longer.
I think Apple will offer a choice. You will still be able to buy a smaller screened iPhone but can elect to have a larger one. I do not want to see a Galaxy S5 size screen but did not like the "just taller" 5 screen either.
A little bigger will be just right for me.
A little bigger will be just right for me.
Apple has to copy others in some segments, thats the effect of "glory sleeping" for the last couple of years
and whats with the "we"? Are you working for Apple or are you just living in your own magical world, where you refer to apple as "we", even though you have absolutely nothing to do with apple apart from owning one of their product. Which is weird. Really weird.
and whats with the "we"? Are you working for Apple or are you just living in your own magical world, where you refer to apple as "we", even though you have absolutely nothing to do with apple apart from owning one of their product. Which is weird. Really weird.
Actually the only "we" here that is needs defending is my requirements as a consumer. I don't care what apple doesn't have that I'm not interested in as what they have that I want to buy.
If your requirement is a phatablet then you as a consumer have other choices. As people keep saying competition is great.
ah .yes the famous look and feel patent. That is not copying ..So did Apple copy the first phone there were phones before Apple made them. Did Apple copy other laptop makers? Did they copy the look and feel of other clamshell laptops? AIO computer .did Apple copy to make the iMac? there were other AIO computers out there .see how that works you can't claim that unless they actually invented something. They did not invent the smartphone. They did it better than most but the smartphone existed before the iPhone.
So is Apple copying others if they go to larger screens? Other smartphones makers made larger screen phones first. Are they copying the look and feel of other smartphone makers?
So I guess your point is dont go big at all and eventually lose your consumers because you just didnt want to go big.
The notification pull down menu was copying in my opinion, eventhough when it comes to notification menus, there just are very many ways to do that.
Going big isnt copying. More and more iPhone users are complaining about the screen being to small compared to android and windows phones. We want bigger screens. There is only one way to go bigger. You cant go taller. You cant go circularly or triangularly. You can only go diagnally. Apple has shown us they are of their own breed long enough. They been as stubborn as they are allowed. Now is the time to give us bigger screens.
The notification pull down menu was copying in my opinion, eventhough when it comes to notification menus, there just are very many ways to do that.
Going big isnt copying. More and more iPhone users are complaining about the screen being to small compared to android and windows phones. We want bigger screens. There is only one way to go bigger. You cant go taller. You cant go circularly or triangularly. You can only go diagnally. Apple has shown us they are of their own breed long enough. They been as stubborn as they are allowed. Now is the time to give us bigger screens.
Again, who is this "we"? iPhones users aren't all identical. Some have wanted larger screens. Some have not. Stop relying on broad generalizations regarding large groups of people.
So since apple supposedly broke new ground with the iphone 1, does that mean every other modern manufacturer has copied apple? There is nothing wrong in copying, for it is the sincerest form of flattery.
The whole larger screen rumor can, in my mind, best be summed up as:
1) Apple has taken the position for a couple of years (since The Galaxy S went large) that the user experience with a larger phone is suboptimal.
2) Apple has fought hard to protect its intellectual property over the years.
3) The market has clearly shown a desire for larger screen phones.
4) As the smartphone market matures, Apple needs to look at other ways of attracting additional customers.
5) If Apple does offer a bigger phone, it will appear rather hypocritical and ironic given 1) and 2).
1) Apple has taken the position for a couple of years (since The Galaxy S went large) that the user experience with a larger phone is suboptimal.
2) Apple has fought hard to protect its intellectual property over the years.
3) The market has clearly shown a desire for larger screen phones.
4) As the smartphone market matures, Apple needs to look at other ways of attracting additional customers.
5) If Apple does offer a bigger phone, it will appear rather hypocritical and ironic given 1) and 2).
Of course they copied Apple!!! Googles intended first Android phone was half blackberry with the buttons until Steve introduced the iPhone. That presentation sent Google back into their labs. What did they come to market with?.....An all touch screen android phone. So yes they and everybody who followed copied.
Coying is copying man. But Dont assume that I think there is something wrong with copying. Folks just act like it should be taboo to do it. I dont see anything wrong with Apple adopting certain features from other OSs and devices. See a good idea, take it and put your spin on it.
The things that bother me is when companies have patented and trademarked items yet other companies still take them.
Its not a matter of wether or not copying is morally right or wrong.
Its about who is copying who.
We all just want to be the best. The one who is being copied, not the other way around.
Its about who is copying who.
We all just want to be the best. The one who is being copied, not the other way around.
I was obviously generalizing the average sentiment here at MacRumors. If you don't fit into that sentiment, more power to you. /tipshat
Its similar to how people say “we" when referring to their favorite sports team.
They are not really out there on the field, but symbolically they are still a part of the organization. If the fans (the consumers) don’t come to the games and watch them, then they make no money and the sport is unsustainable. Same with corporations, investors are still considered part of the organization. They are on the board.
Well we spend money towards Apple, and we are on a "board" too right now aren’t we?
Its not the real Apple board, more like the pretend side board in the little kids room…
But nevertheless as a consumer, I still feel a connection with the Apple spirit and one of the things they do so well is really make you feel like you are part of the Apple family.
We ARE Apple. The people who love and buy their products.
I often diagree with the things you say. This (entire thread) is NOT one of those times.
Is Apple's goal to maximize income or to develop insanely great products that customers love? I don't know how many feel like I do, but I think the 5/5S screen is too big. I have a MacBook, a Cinema Display, and have the option of buying an iPad if I want a large screen device.
I want something functional, great to use, fits in my pocket and able to use with one hand. It's a bit of a stretch using the 5S at times, but I may have smaller hands than most.
If they develop insanely great products it almost guarantees maximum income. They have to develop products that people under 80% of the bell curve want. Not the fringe.
But do they want maximum income or great products? Some say Mercedes-Benz makes a great product but I'm sure there are many things they can do to increase income.
The OP is absolutely correct here. They are definitely in the wrong, as they thought that the android sized phones were less optimal/desirable; and stood by, making claims of 4.0" being the perfect screen size, etc. And now they're offering not only an android size equivalent, but also a phablet alongside it.
Many sheep among us here, but to a neutral person like myself; it definitely looks like they were wrong. And are now catering to the market.
Many sheep among us here, but to a neutral person like myself; it definitely looks like they were wrong. And are now catering to the market.
I'm actually excited about this 4.7-5.5" iPhone 6/iPhone Air etc
I have been holding back buying iPad Air/iPad Mini Retina, If I can have a 5.5" iPhone, I'll be sold having best of all worlds [iOS <--This is major, Phablet, Phone, Texting capability, Camera, Long battery life and the list goes on].
I can't seem to settle with having multiple devices and I do understand tablets have their own place, laptops have their own and phones have their own. However having purchased iPad's in the past many times, I ended up selling my last iPad 4 because it was not getting enough usage as I was always using my iPhone when I needed to do no matter how difficult it was for just about everything and my macbook when ever I had it with me [about 50% of the time]
Its too many electronics for me as all I need is my iPhone and laptop to fill in the "electronics" need in my life. Having a bigger iPhone will solve my need for a tablet [My Need -- Not everyone else's].
Also because its Apple, I know that It'll be the "best iPhone iPhablet yet".
I have been holding back buying iPad Air/iPad Mini Retina, If I can have a 5.5" iPhone, I'll be sold having best of all worlds [iOS <--This is major, Phablet, Phone, Texting capability, Camera, Long battery life and the list goes on].
I can't seem to settle with having multiple devices and I do understand tablets have their own place, laptops have their own and phones have their own. However having purchased iPad's in the past many times, I ended up selling my last iPad 4 because it was not getting enough usage as I was always using my iPhone when I needed to do no matter how difficult it was for just about everything and my macbook when ever I had it with me [about 50% of the time]
Its too many electronics for me as all I need is my iPhone and laptop to fill in the "electronics" need in my life. Having a bigger iPhone will solve my need for a tablet [My Need -- Not everyone else's].
Also because its Apple, I know that It'll be the "best iPhone iPhablet yet".
You mean like reduce expenses? Mercedes would be foolish to reduce expenses by putting cheaper materials into an S class. (Have you ever driven one?)
They could see popcorn in the showrooms to gain revenue. Or they could invest billions of dollars into new and more efficient manufacturing techniques.
Same for apple. Increased revenue is a factor of products sold. Increased income is based on expenses. Certainly apple doesn't have to design and build expensive flagship stores located on premium property. Right?