They weren't concerned about the screen size - it was the size of the phone, itself.
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So essentially, with the new larger screens, we end up copying competitors.
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They weren't concerned about the screen size - it was the size of the phone, itself.
In the computer market, Apple always (at least in the last twelve years) cared about making the greatest products and not about profit. And what's the result? The latest estimate was that Apple, with a smallish percentage of unit sales, makes 45% of all profits of all computer manufacturers. While Samsung has just left the UK market
In the computer market, Apple always (at least in the last twelve years) cared about making the greatest products and not about profit. And what's the result? The latest estimate was that Apple, with a smallish percentage of unit sales, makes 45% of all profits of all computer manufacturers. While Samsung has just left the UK market
That's my point about apple looking for ways to increase income.
So what? They were convinced that the current form factor was the ideal way to go but now it has become painfully obvious that the vast majority of people, including this reporter, want bigger screens. It would obviously be ridiculous at this point for them to insist on holding the screen size where it is out of spite.
So essentially, with the new larger screens, we end up copying competitors.
Apple by in large has the highest profit margins on all of their products. To say the company with the largest bank roll and has the highest profit margins doesn't care about profit is pure insanity.
I'm not saying Apple products aren't nice, top of the line, even the best (debatable) but that is an all for profit company if there ever was one. This is especially true with there computers and this is from someone that will only own Macs.
In the computer market, Apple always (at least in the last twelve years) cared about making the greatest products and not about profit. And what's the result? The latest estimate was that Apple, with a smallish percentage of unit sales, makes 45% of all profits of all computer manufacturers. While Samsung has just left the UK market
Apple by in large has the highest profit margins on all of their products. To say the company with the largest bank roll and has the highest profit margins doesn't care about profit is pure insanity.
I'm not saying Apple products aren't nice, top of the line, even the best (debatable) but that is an all for profit company if there ever was one. This is especially true with there computers and this is from someone that will only own Macs.
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I was saying we needed bigger screens back in 2011 in the thread below. Why didn't they listen back then? I know they read MR sometimes!
May I ask, why do people keep make comments that 4/4.5 screen is LARGE? Its the same.
Well they get "profits" as a final end result of their marketing strategies.
Those marketing strategies are based on customer satisfaction on a potent level.
That customer satisfaction is achieved by giving people what they want.
Somehow, it was incorrectly assessed how much and how many people truly wanted the larger screens.
The profits are there from having an implication you're the best. Right now larger screens are the best. That hurts profits as a total whole.
Its all marketing.
Well, there are no larger screens, so Apple hasn't "copied" anyone yet. And hopefully they won't. Apple should not have made the push for larger screens, ever. In fact, they should not make them any bigger. Phablets are a fad, like wireless ear pieces when you aren't driving. They are made for people who spend all day on Facebook and playing games.
Don't get me wrong, I like the bigger screen on my 5. But thats about it. The phone is harder to hold, uncomfortable to hold, and now needs 2 hands. I used to fly around my 4. Now I have to use two hands on my phone. Its ridiculous. And no, I don't have small hands or whatever the usual trope is going to be.
Apple should not get in the larger screen phone arena, and keep their stuff small and high quality. If they want to make a bigger screen phone, add phone function to the iPad mini (not joking)
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Customer satisfaction at Apple is not based on giving people what they want, it is from making the best product. It is not the same thing. Multiple times it has been stated Apple uses no focus groups.
But that is the same thing.
People want the best products. The best of the best.
The common mind state for people is to approach a buying category with "what is the best buy for my money"
Well clearly the Apple eco-system is the best by a mile.
So what is the best phone?
Well its also the iPhone, technically, but I hesitated because theres that whole aspect of screens on the competition. By what measure are we saying "its the best?"
I want there to be no compromise.
You see Apple is about making meaningful quality. Retina, thats pure eye candy. Meaningful quality. Battery life/OS marriage. Thats meaningful. Touch response, thats meaningful. Loud speakers/speakerphone. All important stuff.
The RAW elements.
Well screen size is one of those, but is missing.
And it is beyond obvious there needs to a be a small and large choice. You like small, most of the world likes big. Just like if I let you choose between an 80inch TV or a 55inch TV for free, anyone would pick the 80inch.
The reason it became so clear a couple years ago that this is necessary is because since the dawn of the iPad, we realized the future of computing is essentially all just touch screens and batteries.
So we need different screens for every different size of behavior.
The phone is a primary device due to being with you everywhere, way more primary than an iPad you would have with you way less often.
So bringing an iPad into this argument was always only a partial fix.
What about when I am sitting somewhere waiting for something. And I want a deliciously satisfying screen? Up until iPhone 6, I have to just have that one size fits all screen. Harder to read the web, harder to watch YouTube.
Everything is a screen now. So screen size is up there with all the top importances.
I guess it was just too obvious. Samsung had the right idea years ago.
Maybe it was a resolution issue, maybe it was a performance issue. But I think they just simply failed to realize the obvious that time around.
Ocular satisfaction is just too much of a primary sense to think some other issue is more relevant or important enough to sacrifice for it.
I don't care about your thumbs, I want to enjoy more vibrant youtube videos on the go.
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Pablo Picasso, actually. The interpretation of this quote is greatly dependent on the IQ of the person interpreting it.
http://www.businessofdesignonline.com/picasso-good-artists-copy/
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Think about how come that Apple has the highest profits. Why doesn't Dell check what profit margin Apple has, and increase their price so they have a slightly higher profit margin? Think very hard about it.
The reason that Apple has high profits is because they never concentrated on profits, but on delivering high quality goods to their customers. And as a result of that, their reputation is so good that they can get away with charging high prices, unlike companies who didn't concentrate on quality and therefore can only sell by keeping prices and profits low.
Regardless how good a phone is people always demand more. People are already complaining about how small the iphones are. And every new model the iphone has a slighty bigger screen. And i dont see why the apple shouldnt increase the size of the screen. Seriosuly even if a phone was made out of gold you would still complain. I see no copying a competitor, if u feel so then dont buy one, i would still enjoy the iphones that newly come out.
Yes, pretty much saying you analyze the best out there and use those elements to build upon them and create new progress. While the lesser may just simply emulate without creativity and inspiration.
Yes I kind of was meaning this earlier in the thread.
I find it silly when people say something like "Apple is a greedy corporate robot who got profits because they they are obsessed with profits."
They don't render the macro aspect properly which is that they don't really do it in such a direct A to B fashion.
Jobs, after the pain of what Microsoft did, realized you had to be ahead of the game from the very start. Before you even let profits play out, you have to make a product so great that the demand for it is enough to fuel your whole empire.
The products have to be insanely great.
That is the cornerstone of their profits, not just the pricing schemes. The psychology behind the premium pricing helps, but first and foremost the quality of product is what makes it possible in the first place.
That's absurd. Ask the stockholders to take a vote on THAT business plan. Yea, make good stuff and not make any money! That'll work.
They may not care much about profit NOW (but be assured they do) because they probably have the largest profit of any company in the world) but see where they end up if they don't have any money left in the bank after paying their bills. Back in Mr Jobs garage selling at computer club meetings.That's absurd. Ask the stockholders to take a vote on THAT business plan. Yea, make good stuff and not make any money! That'll work.
See^
Perfect example.
People think the stockholders think A to B like that.
Again, I'm not sure if it was tech limitation or what. (maybe they didn't think they could make it look great yet and have decent battery) but the last thing that happened was them saying "well the current phone still makes profit, keep it like that if it works for now, money is all that matters." Thats what you guys act like sometimes lol
Im pretty sure everyone that is part of Apple understands the big picture and what tactics got them to where the are now: Understanding human beings, and reverse engineering products that make them feel good.
The rest is secondary to that. And all profits come from that.
Right now a large beautiful jumbo screen phone on iOS would make me feel good. They should have sensed that years ago. (the thread was there)
The difference is that Apple used to be leading the trends. They were the trendsetter. Now they seem to be chasing them...very slowly too.
Yup, something like Touch ID or 64-bit architecture is most certainly Apple slowly chasing some sort of a trend.
?I'm just saying. If any of you actually were smartphone owners back in 2007, you would know that the iPhone launched with the largest screen on phone.
I'm just saying. Most phones around during the time had 2 inch screens.
The iPhone screen back then was actually huge.
Just a simple little fact. The iPhone with its large screen sparked a revolution.
I'm just saying. Most phones around during the time had 2 inch screens.
The iPhone screen back then was actually huge.
Just a simple little fact. The iPhone with its large screen sparked a revolution.
You do realize Apple was not the first phone with Touch ID? The implementation is near identical to what Motorola did back in 2011 on the Atrix.
The 64bit architecture has nothing to do with trends. It is mandatory if Apple plans to merge iOS with osx in the near future or to create a tablet with laptop capabilities. But, if I was going to copy hardware, it wouldn't be this.