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So far, I like Safari on iOS 15
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I don't mind all the safari changes on macOS because I basically just do keyboard shortcuts for almost everything in Safari, but on iOS/ipadOS the new design choices are really unintuitive at a point I can't believe the high end developers at Apple came to this idea after a reunion lol. In this case, the expression "if its not broken, don't fix it" never was so true.
Whats worse about macOS is that there is a fairly large toolbar on what is a fairly big screen. Not allowing people to customize their toolbar by adding a button is silly. Especially given that the pull to refresh might not work. But at least the tabs and address/search bar work fairly well in iOS, less so in iPadOS, and it’s a disaster in macOS; I think toolbar customization is the least of safari’s problems in macOS.
Excellent! Very pleased to hear this. That is one of my favourite features of the Opera web browser.
After using the new Safari on the iPhone there's no way I'm going back. This is a massive improvement for the way I use the browser.
In the past, there was no way to return to the favorites page after you clicked on a link. You'd have to close the tab and open a new tab to get to your favorites or press the address bar which was impossible to do with one handed use. Now, since the address bar has moved to the bottom, I can press it on single handed use and get to my favorites instantly. Plus, the tab groups are very useful. This upgrade is a game changer in usability.
In the past, there was no way to return to the favorites page after you clicked on a link. You'd have to close the tab and open a new tab to get to your favorites or press the address bar which was impossible to do with one handed use. Now, since the address bar has moved to the bottom, I can press it on single handed use and get to my favorites instantly. Plus, the tab groups are very useful. This upgrade is a game changer in usability.
Please tell me there is a close all tabs button, like the one we’ve been missing for the last 100 years on the multitask screen 🤦♂️
If you long press on the tabs button on the bottom right, you get Close All Tabs as the first menu choice.
but that’s been there since at least iOS 14 right? That is, not a new iOS 15 feature. I can’t remember which iOS introduced it exactly.
It’s gonna be a some who dislike the design choice and some who do. Me personally… I like them, I can understand what Apple were trying to do with Safari. I haven’t tried it on the iPhone, but for the iPad… the focal point in new Safari is the tabs and address bar.
You claim as Safari changes being unintuitive… which you have every right to have that thought, but I actually think it’s intuitive. For example, how tabs change based on which tab is active. As I mention, I can’t really speak on iOS… but as far as iPadOS version. I think the design choice is thoughtful, but this is the 1st beta…. it might change over time.
I’m truly glad it works for you. And I will say it’s not as disruptive as it is in MacOS. But I still don’t think it’s great for iPadOS. I also think there’s enough space to allow a toggle on iPadOS to take it or leave it. But then again I think there’s enough real state on MacOS for a toggle as well. I don’t see why it can’t be either or depending on user’s choice.
I'm a big fan of Safari on iOS overall in 15, though I wish they would tweak how Safari is interpreting colors for the top and bottom borders. I love the bottom URL bar though. I would always set my browsers to be that way on Android.
I'm also enjoying Safari on macOS a lot, but I'm not enjoying Safari as much on iPadOS. I think it's because I have a mini, but the tabs get too clustered and uncomfortable. I'm sure it works better on bigger screens, but on the Mini it's quite uncomfortable overall.
I'm also enjoying Safari on macOS a lot, but I'm not enjoying Safari as much on iPadOS. I think it's because I have a mini, but the tabs get too clustered and uncomfortable. I'm sure it works better on bigger screens, but on the Mini it's quite uncomfortable overall.
Ditto.
I remember when a lot of gestures were introduced the year prior to iPhone X. Seems Apple was giving everyone a year to get used to it before hardware changes necessitated them. Perhaps something similar this time? If the notch is going away in 2022 it would make sense to move to the bottom. It’s already hard enough to reach to top now one handed
Is there a faster way to get to my list of favorites/bookmarks? In iOS 15's Safari, you have to tap the bottom of the screen to get the address bar up, then tap the URL, then reach all the way to the top left side of the phone to press the bookmarks button. Wasn't it just a single tap pre-15???
You still tap the address bar once to get to favorites. It's even easier now, since the address bar is at the bottom. Reaching bookmarks is harder, but I see no point in using bookmarks instead of favorites.
Well, it's faster to scan a vertical list than to scan a grid of icons up/down plus left/right. And it took (at most) two taps to get there before, and now it takes 3-4 (including a cross-phone stretch to the opposite corner of the screen - not the opposite side, but the opposite corner entirely). I'd say it's far more difficult now than it used to be (difficult comparatively, of course).
Which is why I posted, to see if maybe there was a shortcut that I didn't know about.
I’m curious… what exactly are you looking to toggle on/off?
Its two taps, similar to how it was before. It’s just in a different location.
it’s not awesome if your, say in a forum and halfway down the webpage
I think there should be an option for both macos and ipados to toggle on/off a dedicated address/search bar.
I also went back and looked at the private browsing feature it's a much slower implementation. Not only is it easier to get to from the bottom, but you click the little box and it's pretty much the first choice. It'll get faster with muscle memory, but it will never be as quick as it was before because there's too much UI in the way and you can't pretty much tap it twice in the same spot one-handed. I wouldn't mind if I were getting something in return for the change. But as of yet, I don't see anything I like about the sidebar or anything I would have wanted this new UI menu for that wasn't handled with dedicated and persistent UI elements before.
Having spent more time with it - I’n kinda iffy on how the top and bottom attempt to color match with websites. It rarely works out well. But then at the same time when you turn color matching off the UI looks a bit awkward with the status bar. I wish they would have true full screen option iOS where time and status icons hide and the screen just is one continuous webpage. Other than that I’m still really enjoying it on iOS 15 and Monterey. Overall a meh experience on iPad mini however. I think the screen is too small for the iPad design to be effective (specifically tabs/address bar).