But Apple can go higher than this for the 30" iMac or the Mac Pro. They can go 64 and 128 Core and match/exceed 3090Ti. It seems easily doable at this point.
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So M1 Max with 32 Core GPU matches RTX 3080 Mobile.
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TGP is configurable on mobile Nvidia and even on desktop with nvidia-smi power limit tool. My 3060 mobile is configurable via function-Q key toggles between 40W, 70W/80W and 100W which is a plus so I can balance fps and battery life. Don't need >90fps mobile gaming which it already achieves at 70W so wished they added 50W and 60W toggles.
I'll wait for independent unbiased reviews this time. A lot of the same M1 comparison claims to dGPU turned out BS.
Did it? I thought M1 real world reviews were even more bold than what Apple claimed during the keynote. Apple was more conservative.
I was just looking at this, paused and screen captured:
Searched the corner and found it was for a laptop with a 3050 TI, not the best discrete laptop GPUs. Went off googling 3050 TI vs 3080. So thought just about 1/2 the 3080 *roughly*. Sneaky, sneaky marketing graph. Then realised that's the pro, not the max!!! 🤦🏻♂️😂 So yeah with the 32-core Max, not 16-core Pro it's gonna be ball-park. Nice!
(All with a good pinch of salt at least for now)
Maybe someone will finally make us some decent AAA games now it can match up with the graphics performance of a laptop that sounds like a vacuum cleaner! 😂
Searched the corner and found it was for a laptop with a 3050 TI, not the best discrete laptop GPUs. Went off googling 3050 TI vs 3080. So thought just about 1/2 the 3080 *roughly*. Sneaky, sneaky marketing graph. Then realised that's the pro, not the max!!! 🤦🏻♂️😂 So yeah with the 32-core Max, not 16-core Pro it's gonna be ball-park. Nice!
(All with a good pinch of salt at least for now)
Maybe someone will finally make us some decent AAA games now it can match up with the graphics performance of a laptop that sounds like a vacuum cleaner! 😂
Rumor has it that the Mac Pro lineup will have multiple top-end M1 Max SoCs in them...
M1 Max (Jade C-Die)
- 10-core CPU (8P/2E)
- 32-core GPU
- 16-core Neural Engine
- 64GB RAM
Jade 2C
- 20-core CPU (16P/4E)
- 64-core GPU
- 32-core Neural Engine
- 128GB RAM
Jade 4C
- 40-core CPU (32P/8E)
- 128-core GPU
- 64-core Neural Engine
- 256GB RAM
So yeah, Jade 2C = 3090Ti & Jade 4C = Dual 3090Ti...?
A Jade 2C in a new Cube seems the sweet spot for it all...?
Well, the problem is not about the performance. It's about the macOS platform itself. There aren't many game players from Mac and niche market size is the major problem with Mac gaming. Steam stats shows that only less than 3% are Mac players with Intel Mac.
Both mobile 3080 and 3070 have 448 GB/s bandwidth. Mobile 3060 has 336.0 GB/s. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about.
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Mobile Specs
NVIDIA GA104, 1560 MHz, 5120 Cores, 160 TMUs, 80 ROPs, 8192 MB GDDR6, 1750 MHz, 256 bitwww.techpowerup.com
50 extra GB/s is not „significantly higher“. Especially given that a 3080 has merely 5MB of cache. M1 Pro probably has over 32MB, so it’s aggregate bandwidth on complex data is going to be higher.
And frankly, I am not sure that you are in position to tell me that I don’t know what I am taking about 😉
You said are they any GPU with high bandwidth, and there you go.
I wrote „significantly higher“. You said 400GB/s is „way slower„ than GDDR6 in comparable machines. So far you quote 10% higher, not „way higher“.
That graph is BS but to be expected of marketing. Doesn't say what it's doing or running. And, they purposely chose worst case for the comparisons like probably an old Intel Macbook because no way M1 is that much better in performance than Intel 11th gen Xe iGPU.
Because Ampere can do FP32 + (FP32 or INT). It basically has double the FP32 units from Turing (IIRC Turing could do FP32 + INT). So if your load has INT in it, you won’t get the full 19 TFLOPS.
I'm guessing that the 30" iMac won't be called iMac, but iMac Pro.
And I'm also guessing that the 30" iMac will have the same top end SoC options as the Mac Pro.
Because I don't see why Apple wouldn't be able to fit these SoC's into a 30" iMac Pro.
So if you want a desktop with top end Mac Silicon, you will have two options. Screen included, or not.
Im still waiting for high end iMac cause many monitors with hardware calibration still struggling with Apple Silicon Mac. Still buggy and useless.
I want to switch to MacBook Pro + screen instead of iMac. I'm set on buying M1 Max 16", but I need a decent screen to go with it. Cannot afford XDR.
I have a nice hardware calibration monitor but it doesn't work well instead of buggy. Not reliable and not able to use all features.
Good luck with that unified memory of yours when real GPU process kick in like rendering in Fusion which eats up RAM as much as it can and at the same time uses GPU for most of it's tools.
Well there is the 5k LG UltraFine TB3 monitor. That gives you a panel similar to the 5k iMac's.